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post #571 of 682
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Originally Posted by dryvadeum View Post


That definitely sounds like hype. Hype helps no one.

 

It is not hype if I have owned about 100 or more cans since I've been a member on headfi. How could it be hype? I don't sell these things.

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Im not sure how much difference there is between the 80 ohm and 250 ohm, having only heard the 80, but to say the 250 is a closed HD600 seems like hype. I say this cos Ive heard the HD650 and its far more refined than the 80 ohm DT250. Me thinks this is a case of headfi hyperitis.

 

...and the 80 ohm is not as good as the 250 ohm model. I did say that only the 250 ohm model is competitive against the higher end cans.

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I just joined the 250 club today.  I was one of the lucky few who got the $27 deal from Amazon on the last few in-stock pair.  I hope the rest of you who ordered get your orders honored!  They have changed the posting, but it sounds like there are a lot of people who have yet to receive order cancellations so fingers crossed...  

 

Anyways, I had a few hours to listen to these at work today out of my Aune T1.  They sound great.  The build quality is excellent too as you would expect from pro audio gear.  Got to say I'm stoked!!

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Wow, that's awesome pelli! Congrats. I'm on the backorder list, but haven't been officially denied yet, so fingers crossed!
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Here they are out in the wild:

 

 

 I agree with the general consensus on this thread... they are an unappreciated headphone.  I can't believe they fly so far under the radar.  I don't think I have ever seen them recommended in the under $200 price class, but I think they punch way above that level.  Great isolation and almost no bleed makes them the perfect work solution!

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Originally Posted by pelli View Post
 I agree with the general consensus on this thread... they are an unappreciated headphone.  I can't believe they fly so far under the radar.  I don't think I have ever seen them recommended in the under $200 price class, but I think they punch way above that level.  Great isolation and almost no bleed makes them the perfect work solution!

Headphonic in Australia do recommend the DT250, but they tend to recommend the 80 ohm version for some reason.

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They say that they both sound the same and they just sell the 80 ohm because its slightly easier to drive. WTF, They sound more diferent from each other than comparing the hd600 and 650. Thats one of the reasons I've stopped trusting them on their impressions. 

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They say that they both sound the same and they just sell the 80 ohm because its slightly easier to drive. WTF, They sound more diferent from each other than comparing the hd600 and 650. Thats one of the reasons I've stopped trusting them on their impressions. 

Marcus is a pretty down to earth guy. He's often advised me to buy products he doesn't stock so he's a straight shooter.
post #579 of 682
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He is cool and he tells it like it is, its just the dt250-250 vs 80 ohm thing that was way off. I owned 2 250 ohm dt250s and one 80 ohm and can tell you that the 80 ohm is more bloated and less controlled with more forward mids and lacks air and extension vs the 250 ohm version.

post #580 of 682
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Originally Posted by donunus View Post
 

He is cool and he tells it like it is, its just the dt250-250 vs 80 ohm thing that was way off. I owned 2 250 ohm dt250s and one 80 ohm and can tell you that the 80 ohm is more bloated and less controlled with more forward mids and lacks air and extension vs the 250 ohm version.

 

Hey Donunus not implying that your incorrect or correct. I have not heard both pairs, only the 80ohm. However, reading that post I felt I should outline some thoughts.

 

Could it be possible the 80 ohm version you owned was defective or not like the rest of the bunch?

 
Marcus would have access to various DT250's from differing batches. He would also have access to compare them on many different amps and DAC's at any time. One would think, what reason would Marcus have in disregarding a difference, if it exists? Unless he can't hear it - again assuming it exists. That also begs the question,  If there was genuinely such a difference between the 80 and 250ohm versions you would think someone in the headphonic group would have noticed and pointed that fact out. I am certain many go audition headphones in his store in Perth.  
 
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I've experienced the same thing with my DT250-80 and DT250-250. The 80 ohm definitely has a slight treble roll off and are a bit dark. The midrange can also be a bit harsh. I used to think the DT250-250 was annoyingly bass light until I tried it on my Apex Glacier.
 
I believe they said that the 250 ohm version is harder to drive, but sounds the same so they recommend the 80 ohm version. My iPod Classic has to have the volume raised quite a bit to drive the 250 ohm version. However, I would definitely say that the 250 ohm version is worth it over the 80 ohm version if you have an amp.
 
They do measure quite similarly as seen in the FR graphs in the first page of this thread, and while the tonal balance is a bit similar they are definitely not the same. To my ears, the 80 ohm version has a more popular tuning while the 250 ohm version is more open and delicate sounding and even has a bit of a nice soundstage for closed headphones. I haven't heard the HD600/HD650 to compare though.

 

Not sure if my DT250-80 are defective though. I did buy them second hand and the mid-range has a bit of glare.

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Djevoultion,

The thing of it is that the people on this thread that have owned both agree with me. Read the whole thread and take a look at the comments from people that have heard both cans. Also take a look at Saint Panda's big closed headphone shootout with both the 80 and 250 ohm. Also ask Lini, he will also tell you that the 250 is different. I am not the only one. It was just a weird thing when Marcus from the Perth store told me that they were the same. I was thinking maybe he didn't really listen to the 250 ohm cans for more than a few seconds. Dunno :o

 

EDIT:^^ Namaiki just posted at the same time that I was typing and confirmed my impressions.


Edited by donunus - 9/21/13 at 7:51am
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Not sure if my DT250-80 are defective though. I did buy them second hand and the mid-range has a bit of glare.

 

My 80 ohm had that glare too which doesn't exist on the 250 ohm model. I mean it can't really be defective if both drivers are doing the same thing. Could there really be a matched pair of 2 defective drivers? :D

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 I am certain many go audition headphones in his store in Perth.  

 

I am not sure if the 250 ohm is always in stock for people to be able to audition them anytime vs the 80 ohm model.

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Originally Posted by donunus View Post

Djevoultion,
The thing of it is that the people on this thread that have owned both agree with me. Read the whole thread and take a look at the comments from people that have heard both cans. Also take a look at Saint Panda's big closed headphone shootout with both the 80 and 250 ohm. Also ask Lini, he will also tell you that the 250 is different. I am not the only one. It was just a weird thing when Marcus from the Perth store told me that they were the same. I was thinking maybe he didn't really listen to the 250 ohm cans for more than a few seconds. Dunno redface.gif

EDIT:^^ Namaiki just posted at the same time that I was typing and confirmed my impressions.

Yeah but this is headfi - the land of hyperbole and denial.
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