The Beyerdynamic DT250 Appreciation Thread - Page 26

Hello everyone

this is my first post on this forum

 

i've just bought a DT-250 / 80

 

1/ I use it to play electric guitar silently at night : very very good result ! it's like my head is sticked inside my amp !!

 

2/ I also use it to listen music (and voice podcast) on the train daily.

my mp3 player is a Cowon D2+

I find the headphone a little harsh on trebles

do you have this feeling ?

 

i'm trying to do my best with EQ and BBE plugins (native on every Cowon player) and it's quite ok but sill a little too bright

but very articulate

every detail shines

 

my question for you :

do you use to set set particular EQ for your DT250 ? what kind of settings ?

 

I've studied the DT250 graph (find somewhere on this forum) and tried to fill in the holes :

(around 400 hz and 7 khz)
 

Did you try lowering at around 9-10Khz? Though I found the DT250 not particularly fatiguing unless listening too loud. Also, try adjust your earcups up or down one notch.

Edited by namaiki - 3/4/13 at 2:18am

Hello

I will try

It's not easy to increase à 7khz and disgrease at 9 khz at the same time (my EQ only have 5 bands)

Did you try without EQ?

hello

for the first try yes, i've use it flat

maybe i should try again, but it's hard to fine the perfect tuning, it can take weeks !

do you adjust EQ when using your DT250 ?

 

my previous headphone was a Shure SRH440

nice headphones but bad build quality

the arch broke after only 2 years !
 

I rarely/never EQ for my normal listening. Maybe try use your DT250-80 for a day or two without EQ first. My DT250 look nearly as I first bought them besides some fluff on the earpads. Also be a little bit careful about getting the curl of the cord caught on anything.

Edited by namaiki - 3/4/13 at 3:36am

Hello. I've joined this forum specifically to ask about my 80 ohm dt250's. They are the first midprice-ish headphones i've had, bought on amazon from amazon themselves and although they are good i'm still a bit disappointed and wondering if there's something up with them or whether it's just what i'm using them with.

To me they sound to have a mid-range-biased sound. If they are intended to give an accurate rather than flattering impression the bass still seems a bit muted, and i don't even listen to bassy music, just having owned many musical instruments i listen for fidelity to what i've played.

I use them with my homebuilt pc, and in windows media player i boost about 4db at about 60hz and 16khz, and cut 2db at 900hz which seems to be where the, to me, wrong emphasis is. I approximate the same eq with linux or windows, and also on my kobo arc android tablet and sansa clip, the latter usually paired with koss ksc75's and a more apt eq for them.

I've also tried them with my digital piano but they are not as warm or bassy as some £30 sony's from argos.

I use a fiio e5 often with the tablet and always with the piano.

Is my impression of these 'phones because i'm not using premium hifi separates possibly? I will probably keep them because they are overall the best i have, though i continue to be awed by my ten quid ksc75's and porta pros.

Or does it sound to dt250 fans that i have a subjective but accurate view, and is unlikely that they have or could have a fault? By the way, i've had them maybe a month and given my quietish 41 year old's tastes they may not be optimumly burnt in. (Maybe i need to leave them running while i'm away with rock i no longer listen to on but would that really do much?)

Thanks for all feedback, and pardon the fairly layman-like terminology.

(edited to add the 80 ohm detail)
Edited by unclematerial - 3/4/13 at 4:46am

Do you have the DT250-80 or DT250-250s? Sounds like the 80 ohm version if you are raising 4db at 16KHz. The way I remember them is that they sound rather plain, but they don't really do anything wrong.

Edited by namaiki - 3/4/13 at 3:57am

I will try to use them flat for a while, thanks for the idea.

 

one more remark :

 

I use them with a Cowon D2+ player

 

the volume scale goes up to 50.

 

to have a nice volume (outdoor/train) I need to set the volume to 40 for music and near 50 for voice podcasts

(it was around 25 with my Shure SRH440 - it has a lower impedance).

 

I hope the volume of my Cowon is linear and doesn't add any saturation...

I find them really boring, Is there anything I can do to make them more exciting. 

For me they are not so boring

they are studio headphones, not really dedicated to listen music in a train like I use to do

and this is why i've bought them : to play my guitar at night

 

I am currently setting up my EQ flat, then I'll try to lower progressively the treble around 9 khz

In addition, the Goldenears.net CSD spectrum plots show moderate ringing at ~9.5kHz, around which Namaiki recommended lowering using an EQ to Douglove.

Namaiki, what do you hear in particular that would make you suggest this, in spite of enjoying the overall trble response? Was it simply based on that plot (or another)?

 

...and does this ringing correspond with the peak that Donunus mentioned?

What do you do with that peak (if anything at all), Donunus, if I may ask?

 

I don't expect that any narrow peak could be perceived as natural or pleasant. Is there someone who believes otherwise?

 

I was only going by on the golden ears CSD graph. Personally, I don't find the DT250-80s fatiguing at all and I preferred them over the DT250-250s for that reason. Though the 250 ohm is technically better, I seem to like how the 80 ohm sounds dark, a bit dry in the middle and still fudgy/bassy at the bottom.

 

Talking about that peak (which isn't really razor sharp), I think it makes the headphones sound more open.

Edited by namaiki - 3/4/13 at 5:28pm