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post #271 of 444
7/17/12 at 4:26pm
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They definitely have the lowest fatigue factor. I like them even more than hd600s which were my old favorite cans.

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post #272 of 444
7/19/12 at 9:23am

It took me a while to get a DT250, as it seems that the 250 Ohm version is on backorder and very hard to get at the moment. Luckily, the official Beyerdynamic importer for Switzerland offered me to take an 80-Ohm-DT250 and replace the drivers with 250 Ohm ones, at no extra cost. I accepted of course, and it arrived today.

 

I'm surprised positively about the sound. I basically bought these based on a recommendation that they sounded very similar to the Senn HD600. While I don't think the DT250 is close in performance, in my opinion Beyerdynamic did get the frequency response just right in the DT250. No nasty treble peaks, no anemic bass and sweet mids. Soundstage is so-so but alright for a closed headphone. Wearing comfort is very good, and the thing is built very sturdily - nothing fancy here but these will likely survive a lot of abuse and outlive me by many years dt880smile.png

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post #273 of 444
7/19/12 at 12:37pm
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Soundstage is so-so but alright for a closed headphone.

 

I have found significant differences in 250-250 soundstage width and coherence depending on the amp.

 

Shanling PH100 - really very narrow - too narrow to be comfortably listenable

Graham Slee Solo Ultra Linear - narrow but coherent, pretty listenable, very forward vocal

Graham slee Voyager - OK, bot overall sound a bit limp in comparison to a desktop amp

Consonance Cyber 20b - very nice, still not very wide but a much better shape... vocal a little less forward, in a good way (I like mids & vocals!)

 

Best

 

James

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post #274 of 444
7/19/12 at 11:44pm
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The operating system/media player or the cd player being used will also make a big difference with how the dt250-250 sounds.

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post #275 of 444
7/25/12 at 9:58pm
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http://www.head-fi.org/t/128983/15-closed-headphones-2-canalphones-and-a-discussion-on-frequency-graphs-reviews

 

Dug up this one and agree with the findings about the dt250-250. It may not read like a super hardcore headphone rave review for the 250-250 but in the end, all the other cans that I've owned or heard in this review had problems that made them painful to listen to in the long run making listening to music more of an analytical experience vs a pleasurable one to me.

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post #276 of 444
8/10/12 at 6:20am

I alternate between the 250-80's (office) and the 250-250's (home). differences are minor. slight, even. Most likely non existant. 80-ohm out of a mini-3 and 250 ohm out of a yamaha rx-797 receiver.

 

 

However: I have had a pair of each type (80 and 250 ohm) that I had to return because of odd wonky boomy bass. There was a batch of them that had some defect in the earcup construction, if I recall correctly. An exchange cleared it right up.

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post #277 of 444
8/10/12 at 6:33am
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However: I have had a pair of each type (80 and 250 ohm) that I had to return because of odd wonky boomy bass. There was a batch of them that had some defect in the earcup construction, if I recall correctly. An exchange cleared it right up.

Might you happen to recall the serial numbers of the affected cans? I'd be curious if my current 80 ohm is in a similar number range.

 

After all this time I still can't seem to get into my DT250-250s. I just like my DT250-80s more even though I feel that the DT250-250s are technically better.


Edited by namaiki - 8/10/12 at 7:13am
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post #278 of 444
8/10/12 at 7:24am
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The dt250-250 may seem a little thin when directly compared to the 80 but thats just because of the direct comparison. I can't listen to the 80 ohm long term. Its just too rolled off sounding making it suffocate from the lack of air. The 250 ohm isn't lacking bass either, its just that coming from the 80 is like coming home from a club listening to headphones. My 80 which was very recent was definitely boomy and undefined vs the 250 ohm version

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post #279 of 444
8/10/12 at 7:52am
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Its just too rolled off sounding making it suffocate from the lack of air. 

You're very right. The DT250-80's were my main cans for ages, but I got bored of them. Maybe I'll try the DT250-250's again tomorrow with fresh ears.

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post #280 of 444
8/10/12 at 8:03am
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also try different headband settings to get better coherence. I've noticed a difference with this. I used to be a 7 now i'm 6 steps on the headband per side to get the best sound. This is probably due to the headband and pad shapes changing a bit over time.

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post #281 of 444
8/10/12 at 8:40am
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I alternate between the 250-80's (office) and the 250-250's (home). differences are minor. slight, even. Most likely non existant. 80-ohm out of a mini-3 and 250 ohm out of a yamaha rx-797 receiver.

 

 

However: I have had a pair of each type (80 and 250 ohm) that I had to return because of odd wonky boomy bass. There was a batch of them that had some defect in the earcup construction, if I recall correctly. An exchange cleared it right up.

Do you find that your 250ohm model is as rolled off in the highs as the 80ohm model? I had no problem with the bass when I had the 80ohm version, but the highs were quite lacking compared to my akg k240DF which was my reference at the time. I removed the foam and replaced it with thin cloth and was able to get more treble that way, but it still seemed a bit rolled off. that was my main issue with them other than the fact they didn't fold up for portable use.

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post #282 of 444
8/10/12 at 9:05am
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also try different headband settings to get better coherence. I've noticed a difference with this. I used to be a 7 now i'm 6 steps on the headband per side to get the best sound. This is probably due to the headband and pad shapes changing a bit over time.

Haha, funny that. I just went from 7 down to 6 last week or the week before.

 

I'm not sure if I need a haircut though, if "getting long" hair would affect the velour pads much for bass. 


Edited by namaiki - 8/10/12 at 9:11am
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post #283 of 444
8/10/12 at 4:03pm
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The perfect fit affects the mids blending in with the rest of the frequencies to me. They become a little detached and hollow sounding when the fit isn't perfect IMO

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post #284 of 444
9/7/12 at 6:45pm
Has anybody compared the dt250 to the dt1350?
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post #285 of 444
9/8/12 at 1:59am

I have both. In short, both are great, the DT250 is warmer sounding where the DT1350 is slightly more on the "cold" side of neutral. Both have a rather small soundstage and similar resolution. In general, I prefer the DT250, but it should be amped - it sounds fine out of a DAP, but not perfect. The DT1350 on the other hand is great for portable use.

 

 

 

I'll take this chance to mention once again that the DT250 is absolutely wonderful. I've spent some more time with this unassuming 'phone these past few days and was immensely pleased with the sound. I originally bought them based on a recommendation that said they were similar to the HD600 - now I can fully confirm that they are. Both will not "wow" the listener instantly, but both can be relied upon never to disappoint, no matter what music you're listening to. Not love on first sight perhaps, but a great long-term relationship.

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