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post #16 of 747
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There are so many good reviews of the Audio Technica M50 also and I didn't like those either. Like I said, i don't think there has been any closed headphone that I like more than the dt250 among the stuff I have owned on my profile.

post #17 of 747

An oldie, but also a goldie. If my ears were not so sensitive to clampy headphones I would had bought these ages ago.

post #18 of 747
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Originally Posted by donunus View Post

There are so many good reviews of the Audio Technica M50 also and I didn't like those either. Like I said, i don't think there has been any closed headphone that I like more than the dt250 among the stuff I have owned on my profile.



It could simply be the fact that they're closed that explains the fact that they never wowed me. I guess I could have the same problem with the 840 since they're also closed. I had two different k240's over the span of time I had the dt250. Then I moved up to the 580.  They're all more engaging than the dt250 was for me.  Probably no closed phone would satisfy me the way an open or semi open one does. I wish the k240S was a little more clear and less boomy in the low end.  

post #19 of 747
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Just like your 580s, my other cans are HD600s and I feel that the dt250-250 is a good closed headphone counterpart of them. I didn't like the k240s that much by the way. I liked the k141 more than the k240s.

post #20 of 747

I also don't like the 840. They aren't the good imo as there is plenty of bullsh*t hype on this forum.

 

 

post #21 of 747

I don't think it's just hype, though there's some of that too, no doubt. I read some comments from a guy who works in a studio with expensive Adam monitors and he compared the 840 very favorably in overall sound signature to the Adams. Though, I'm sure they fall short in a some areas considering the price difference. But I read a similar comment on the dt250, comparing them to a very good studio monitor....so it's very subjective. Personally, I like the k240S mids quite a lot, but it's too muddy and boomy in the upper/mid bass to be something I want to hold on to. I may have to try the 141 if I can get a hold of one cheap enough.

post #22 of 747
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The dt250 is everything the k141 is and more though :D

post #23 of 747
Thread Starter 

By the way, I am getting curious as to how the dt100 sounds. Has anyone here compared those with the dt250?

post #24 of 747

I used the DT250 for work at the studio I worked at a few years ago. I always wanted to get a pair for myself but my attention was grabbed by other cans that I also wanted to hear at that time. Well, this thread rekindled my interest in the DT250 and I just bought a pair of the 250 Ohm version. I sure am glad I did. Excellent headphones with clarity that is difficult to compete with. I've been using the Shure SRH940 for the past few months on and off for editing and music pleasure, and those cans are currently mentioned as 'detail monsters'. Well, in direct comparison with these cans, the DT250 really holds its own and doesn't sound any less detailed. All this with great, neutral and controlled bass. Awesomeness.

post #25 of 747

I've just got dt250 250ohm version. Overall, it's impressed me. it is superior than my previous beyer dt440.

 

post #26 of 747
Thread Starter 

I have a question for you guys though. There is a slight problem with L-R matching. I find the left channel to have a little more midbass vs the right channel. This is especially apparent when doing a frequency sweep. The sound at around 80 to 250hz is slightly louder on the left side vs the right side. Is this a common problem with these? Overall I'd still take them over other closed cans I've had but I can't help not to notice this. 300 hz and up the sound is equal volume on both channels. I've tried plugging the cans into different amps/headphone jacks and I get the same results.

post #27 of 747

I did a frequency sweep on mine and didn't notice an imbalance. It seems that you might have a faulty pair. The only other reason I can think of is that you might have differently shaped ears or ear canals on the two sides of your head. This is actually immensely common as no two ears are exactly symmetrical and it is common for them to be quite different. Compared to many (most?) circumaural sealed headphones, the DT250 has pretty small pads and this means that their sound might be affected by their seal more audibly than with other headphones. As your ears might be asymmetrical, the difference in how they seal might indeed affect the mid-bass the most (as mid-bass needs a well isolated space to reverb in a way that makes it prominent. If I were you, I'd try listening to the DT250 with inverted channels (put them on the wrong way around) to see if the problem persists.

 

If you find that your balance is still off, it might be a good idea to ask Beyer to replace your pair.
 

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Originally Posted by donunus View Post

I have a question for you guys though. There is a slight problem with L-R matching. I find the left channel to have a little more midbass vs the right channel. This is especially apparent when doing a frequency sweep. The sound at around 80 to 250hz is slightly louder on the left side vs the right side. Is this a common problem with these? Overall I'd still take them over other closed cans I've had but I can't help not to notice this. 300 hz and up the sound is equal volume on both channels. I've tried plugging the cans into different amps/headphone jacks and I get the same results.



 


Edited by jupitreas - 3/1/12 at 1:30pm
post #28 of 747


I had the same problem, but to an extreme, with my dt48. I thought I blew a driver or something. Turned out it was the seal. My right ear piece was much harder to get a good seal with than the left and the bass was much worse on that side. The dt48 needs an extremely good seal, or you lose a lot of low end. Don't know if the same applies to the dt250, but worth checking into it before deciding to return them.

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Originally Posted by jupitreas View Post

I did a frequency sweep on mine and didn't notice an imbalance. It seems that you might have a faulty pair. The only other reason I can think of is that you might have differently shaped ears or ear canals on the two sides of your head. This is actually immensely common as no two ears are exactly symmetrical and it is common for them to be quite different. Compared to many (most?) circumaural sealed headphones, the DT250 has pretty small pads and this means that their sound might be affected by their seal more audibly than with other headphones. As your ears might be asymmetrical, the difference in how they seal might indeed affect the mid-bass the most (as mid-bass needs a well isolated space to reverb in a way that makes it prominent. If I were you, I'd try listening to the DT250 with inverted channels (put them on the wrong way around) to see if the problem persists.

 

If you find that your balance is still off, it might be a good idea to ask Beyer to replace your pair.
 



 



 

post #29 of 747
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Originally Posted by donunus View Post

By the way, I am getting curious as to how the dt100 sounds. Has anyone here compared those with the dt250?

 

 

DT100 is DT150 with less bass.

post #30 of 747
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the replies guys. So far as the balance is concerned, I know its not the shape of my ears because when i reversed the left and right channels on my head, the right side becomes bassy meaning the left driver is slightly bassier. I did however notice that the difference between both channels are becoming smaller after two overnight burn in stretches with moderately loud pink noise. I hope that after around 100 hours that the two channels become identical. This would also tackle two birds with one stone :) Whether it is a faulty pair and whether burn in really exists. I don't think placebo exists here if a test sweep suddenly comes out dead center after coming from the mid left on these bass notes.

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