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post #76 of 733
Still no word on whether the 802/901 is intended as a direct competitor to the DX100.

My guess is that the 802/901 will sound fantastic but operate at lower voltage and thus have more compact battery and reduced voltage-swing output, though with similar low impedance in order to drive CIEMs properly, as standard.

I anticipate 10-12hr battery duration.

I don't anticipate the 802/901 outperforming the DX100, but rather *almost* performing as well as the DX100, whilst having more compact dimensions, better battery life, and slightly cheaper asking price. I also suspect that many DX100 users will end up buying an 802/901 as a companion to the DX100.


This wouldn't have been the scenario with the 801 as it had too many downsides to justify being bought after a DX100, but if the 802/901 is as user-friendly as I'm anticipating, it may well be tempting enough for existing DX100 owners to add to their portable DAP arsenal.

Only time will tell...

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post #77 of 733

thanks for the info! All I care about is how long the battery can last..

post #78 of 733
Please don't construe any of what I said as actual fact. It's just my own thoughts on what may happen.

Since I very much doubt that HifiMan will be able to beat the sound quality of the DX100, it seems logical to me that they will try to get close, and then compete by improving on the weak features of the DX100, as I outlined above.
Edited by Mython - 3/12/12 at 10:21am
post #79 of 733

I wonder how much lower of an asking price it would be though. If it's within $100 I'd just order a DX100....
 

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Please don't construe any of what I said as actual fact. It's just my own thoughts on what may happen.
Since I very much doubt that HifiMan will be able to beat the sound quality of the DX100, it seems logical to me that they will try to get close, and then compete by improving on the weak features of the DX100, as I outlined above.


 

post #80 of 733

Anyone heard any more whispers on this..?

post #81 of 733
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Anyone heard any more whispers on this..?



What are you doing here, you DX100 buyer?blink.gif

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What are you doing here, you DX100 buyer?blink.gif



http://www.head-fi.org/t/597981/renewed-at-2012-03-12-the-new-hifiman-802-new-ui-named-tai-chi/75#post_8219194

post #83 of 733

Sorry, you DX100 buyer!eek.gif

post #84 of 733

LOL - I'm still interested to see what the 802/901 brings to the DAP market. Nothing wrong with taking an interest, is there?

Before the DX100 was announced I very nearly bought an HM801 - I just didn't like the extra cost of a 'GAME' amp module, and I didn't like the poor ergonomics of the 801. Because of this, HM lost my custom.

 

I'm interested to see if the 802/901 solves these issues. If it does, it may be a very good DAP.

 

 

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LOL - I'm still interested to see what the 802/901 brings to the DAP market. Nothing wrong with taking an interest, is there?

Before the DX100 was announced I very nearly bought an HM801 - I just didn't like the extra cost of a 'GAME' amp module, and I didn't like the poor ergonomics of the 801. Because of this, HM lost my custom.

 

I'm interested to see if the 802/901 solves these issues. If it does, it may be a very good DAP.

 

 

I will not hold my breath, but I could be wrong, a competition between companies is always good for us.
 

 

post #86 of 733

Dx100 isn't much smaller at all. And the system seem to be as painful as 801 from what I heard. Let's see if 901 is really "portable"

post #87 of 733
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Dx100 isn't much smaller at all. And the system seem to be as painful as 801 from what I heard. Let's see if 901 is really "portable"



As painful as the 801?  Don't be ridiculous.  The DX100 is very, very easy to use.

post #88 of 733

I was just trying to be nice to DX100 fans.lol..actually what i heard is 801 system is better and easier to use. haha He said unless u r a Android guy, or it will be hard to use.

801 is easy for me to use apart from I have to keep pressing until I find the right album

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As painful as the 801?  Don't be ridiculous.  The DX100 is very, very easy to use.



 


Edited by tupac0306 - 3/21/12 at 9:44am
post #89 of 733

Even as a DX100 buyer, I'm reasonably optimistic about the 802/901

 

I say that because:

 

- HiFiman now have good experience under their belt, so they should know how to do things properly (well, at least in terms of sound... wink_face.gif )

 

- The DX100 gives them a tangible goal to aim for / compete against, rather than just some ideas on a blackboard

 

- HiFiman know that if they don't produce a damned good DAP, people will just ignore it and buy the DX100 instead - the discontinuation of the 801 is evidence enough of that (I'm well aware of the alleged shortages in supply of the 801's DAC chips, but I don't believe that is the whole story, here. The DX100 is blatantly superior to the 801 on several levels, good though the sound quality of the 801 undoubtedly is). HiFiman are currently faced with either upping their game or being left out of the game. Sink or swim time, and that's a huge motivator.

 

 

I reckon the 802/901 might just turn out to be a great little DAP.

post #90 of 733

BTW, I very much doubt the 802/901 will employ a Sabre DAC.

 

Too voltage-hungry(?) and frankly, there's no sense in going directly head-to-head with the Sabre-based DX100, since the DX100's implementation is unlikely to be beaten unless HiFiman know something quite dramatic about implementing the Sabre DAC that has eluded iBasso.

 

I'll be happy enough to be proven wrong on this, though normal_smile%20.gif


Edited by Mython - 3/21/12 at 9:50am
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