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post #16 of 20
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Han, I will be happy to let everyone know about my experience. Give me a few days to get the tubes and burn them in. I'll let you know how it goes.

post #17 of 20
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Okay! Jason was kind enough to ship out a set of GEs, which I received on Tuesday. I allowed them to burn in on Tuesday night, and for several hours yesterday. Last night, I enjoyed listening to music for several hours.

 

Basically, the JJs sounded like I was listening through a sock on each earpiece of both my 900s and 650s.

 

The GEs lifted the veil, big time.

 

A difference I still notice between the sound of the EF5 and the Lyr, is that the Lyr has a "fatter" bottom. There were only a couple of songs (out of listening to a couple of hundred parts of songs and whole songs) where the bass cannibalized the vocals. That's a big plus. The EF5, had a brighter, crisper sound, and it was easier to distinguish instruments on the soundstage. The GEs brought the "punch" I was missing, mostly on drum hits. They also brightened up the sound, that the JJs simply muffled. I can see that rolling in other tubes will brighten up the sound even more, but with more power than the EF5 can deliver.

 

Listening to the Lyr with the GEs and 900s (known for being extremely bright) came closer to the sound of the EF5 with the 650s (known for being dark).

 

I think the build quality of the Lyr is superior. It's far more muscular in its sound and will brighten depending on tube selection. It already brightened substantially with the GEs over the JJs.

 

Rolling the GEs into the Lyr made me feel a lot more comfortable about keeping the Lyr and rolling other tubes into it as finances become available.

 

Jason, thanks again for your help. Problem solved. You responded to every e-mail I have ever sent within minutes. That's something you just don't see much of. As I continue to upgrade my components, I look forward to continued enjoyment of the Lyr and other products you offer.

 

 

post #18 of 20
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Originally Posted by MrTwyst View Post

Okay! Jason was kind enough to ship out a set of GEs, which I received on Tuesday. I allowed them to burn in on Tuesday night, and for several hours yesterday. Last night, I enjoyed listening to music for several hours.

 

Basically, the JJs sounded like I was listening through a sock on each earpiece of both my 900s and 650s.

 

The GEs lifted the veil, big time.

 

A difference I still notice between the sound of the EF5 and the Lyr, is that the Lyr has a "fatter" bottom. There were only a couple of songs (out of listening to a couple of hundred parts of songs and whole songs) where the bass cannibalized the vocals. That's a big plus. The EF5, had a brighter, crisper sound, and it was easier to distinguish instruments on the soundstage. The GEs brought the "punch" I was missing, mostly on drum hits. They also brightened up the sound, that the JJs simply muffled. I can see that rolling in other tubes will brighten up the sound even more, but with more power than the EF5 can deliver.

 

Listening to the Lyr with the GEs and 900s (known for being extremely bright) came closer to the sound of the EF5 with the 650s (known for being dark).

 

I think the build quality of the Lyr is superior. It's far more muscular in its sound and will brighten depending on tube selection. It already brightened substantially with the GEs over the JJs.

 

Rolling the GEs into the Lyr made me feel a lot more comfortable about keeping the Lyr and rolling other tubes into it as finances become available.

 

Jason, thanks again for your help. Problem solved. You responded to every e-mail I have ever sent within minutes. That's something you just don't see much of. As I continue to upgrade my components, I look forward to continued enjoyment of the Lyr and other products you offer.

 

 

l;olz. lemme just share my exp. i bought the ge tubes online when i had the lyr. why?> cus at that time lyr shipped with jj tubes, and ge tube WAS not available. yes it is not available for 40 bucks and it is shipped for free, and i assume only noobs would choose jj over ge. but then i had no choice. plus when i got the tube i assumed that the black burn mark was defective or my own misuse, either way Jason was kind enough to send me another pair, and I realize that the second pair also have burn marks, after they are BURNED IN so aha, that is what people call BURN IN lolz..

 

i personally notice less than 10% difference between the two sets.  placebo mostly. 

 

i have no idea why you people like to roll tubes that much, i never bothered to read that gigantic thread. I just found the cheapest upgrade I could on amazon shipped for a total of less than 30 bucks, and hopefully if the price drop I will buy another spare set or 2 for future proofing. Since a set of tube gives like 5k hours, that is easily at least 1 year or 2... i mean do u ever listen to music 10 hours a day for 365 day a year? no/ so easily 40 bucks tube for 2 year. that is really not a lot, considering these tubes are consumables.

post #19 of 20
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Originally Posted by blankdisc View Post
 

I have both amps, and i love them both. EF5 is more sweet sounding and versatile, while Lyr has fabulous bass and more power.

 

I didn't like the old stock JJ tube. While the bass is awesome, the mid is simply too veil for my taste. The GE tube is definitely better, and i think that's the reason why Jason has since changed the default tube to be the GE ones.

 

There are certain headphones i prefer to be driven by EF5 while some other sound better with Lyr. 

 

Again, both are good headphone amps, and can easily match the performance of much more expansive amps.

 

This is just my experience. :-)

 

 

Which do you like with HE-500's?  I'm having a hard time choosing between the two for HE-500's?  I'm not so concerned about more bass because the 500's sound perfect bass wise to me already. I want more overall smoothness and midrange sweetness.

post #20 of 20
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Originally Posted by SwanSong View Post
 

Which do you like with HE-500's?  I'm having a hard time choosing between the two for HE-500's?  I'm not so concerned about more bass because the 500's sound perfect bass wise to me already. I want more overall smoothness and midrange sweetness.

I've had both the EF-5 and the Lyr and had the chance to compare them side by side.

 

Based on a previous post 

 

"EF5 is more sweet sounding and versatile, while Lyr has fabulous bass and more power." 

 

That is exactly how I would put it.

 

The EF-5 with the HE-500 to me was almost a match made in heaven...great synergy, very lush mids, and great balance overall.

 

The Lyr had tons of power and a good amount of bass and I kept this cause I've had the EF-5 for some time and wanted something I could use to power future headphones without any issues.

 

If you are ONLY going to stick to the HE-500 I would suggest the EF-5 and roll the opamps.

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