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post #76 of 139
I think you are greatly underestimating the complexity of material physics. There is way more involved than basic forces. Again, im not saying that using the same tips for a long period of time doesnt change them. Im saying that to quantify that statement would be very difficult, which is what you were trying to do when you mentioned spring constant.
post #77 of 139

Although it is possible for me to be underestimating the material physics, the outcomes I've gotten are consistent and follow the same pattern (more constant force on two polar sides of a tip vs the other two).  Sure, I can be overlooking the actual physics, but quantifying it is no problem for me.  Even a short amount of time allows these tips to break in and adapt to the shape of my ear.  A small constant force during use here does lead to a small warping of a tip. I'm going to admit, I don't know the exact physics that will happen to the tips.  The outcomes, however, are able to allow me to conclude that the tips do conform to my ear after time. 

 

Here's a good pictorial of what I'm talking about.  Below are three tips all from Etymotic, the left-most on is about 1 month of use (300+ hours, on HF2s), it's become worn.  The second one is about 2 weeks of use (about ~100 hours of total use; on HF2, I had other headphones to review after HF2s).  The third one is about 1 week of use (~50-75 hours; on EtyKids 3).  It's obvious that the use has worn them.  They follow the same typical ovular shape as time progresses.  Also found on my Atomic Floyd tips is a weaker on two polar (opposite) sides towards the middle of the tip (they "dimple" inward a bit if you feel them).  Again, this can correspond to the ovular shape (more force being put on those areas then the rest).  Again, these were only used for 50-100 hours total.  The same thing happened to both of my Phonak tips (one grey, one black)...  My third Phonak tip is following the same pattern.  One of my black tips is no longer in use the nozzle can't stay connected to it fully any longer.  The Phonak black tips were used for 200+ hours while the greys were used for around 75-100.  Thinksound tips did the same, these had over 100 hours.  However, the Etymotic tips show what I'm trying to say the best.  Typically, it'd make sense that after a while the shape of a tip will begin to conform to the shape of your ear.  Thusly, it allows a better seal and a better sound.

 

TipsUp.jpg

This is a picture of the tips from the side.  I apologize if the quality isn't the best.

 

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This picture is the tips from viewing the base.  The ovular shape is the most apparent here.  Again, quality isn't 100%.

 

I really can care less about the cause and specifics, the fact that the shape changes within 50 hours is enough for me to say that tips will break in... 


Edited by tinyman392 - 3/15/12 at 10:57pm
post #78 of 139
Ok. Enough of the off topic chatter. I asked this in the other thread, but this one would be the better one to ask. Do the Sony Hybrids fit the ASGs?
post #79 of 139
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Ok. Enough of the off topic chatter. I asked this in the other thread, but this one would be the better one to ask. Do the Sony Hybrids fit the ASGs?


Yep, and they're my preferred tip with them at present.

post #80 of 139
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Ok. Enough of the off topic chatter. I asked this in the other thread, but this one would be the better one to ask. Do the Sony Hybrids fit the ASGs?


Yep, and they're my preferred tip with them at present.


Thanks for the info. Mine should be here by Saturday smily_headphones1.gif
post #81 of 139

Sennheiser tips work as well.  As do Hybrids as some others have mentioned.  Not a big fan of the hybrids on these though.

 

post #82 of 139
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Sennheiser tips work as well.  As do Hybrids as some others have mentioned.  Not a big fan of the hybrids on these though.

 



Thanks.  I have some backups lined up just in case the stocks don't suite me...  Hybrids, Comply (2 types), Monster Gel, Monster Silicone, Hybrids...  Dual-flanges don't fit my ears, so those will be a no go. Same with tri-flanges.

post #83 of 139

I just got ASG-1 yesterday and trying out various tips on it. Most of them sounded similar, but now I am liking de-cored / tip-trimmed / reverse mounted Shure olives the most.

I guess my ear socket is smaller than 90% people out there as well,, I cannot listen to this for more than 20-30 mins before it really starts to hurt my ears.

post #84 of 139

wait how did you get the shure olives on?
 

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I just got ASG-1 yesterday and trying out various tips on it. Most of them sounded similar, but now I am liking de-cored / tip-trimmed / reverse mounted Shure olives the most.

I guess my ear socket is smaller than 90% people out there as well,, I cannot listen to this for more than 20-30 mins before it really starts to hurt my ears.



 

post #85 of 139
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wait how did you get the shure olives on?
 



 



They are de-cored...  He took the core (plastic part) of the olives off...

post #86 of 139

I've tried a few tips (Jays silicone, Sony Hybrid, stock, Meelec single-flange silicone, UE silicone) and my favourite so far is the smallest clear silicones that came with my UE600. I normally use the medium tips, but I've found (like many others before me) that the smallest tips work best for me. For me, the UE silicone is the most comfortable and has the greatest clarity, although I do like the Jays and Meelec quite a bit too, those two sound quite similar to my ears. 

post #87 of 139

wow thats a great idea, whats the best way to take out the core without ruining the foam?
 

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They are de-cored...  He took the core (plastic part) of the olives off...



 

post #88 of 139
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wow thats a great idea, whats the best way to take out the core without ruining the foam?
 



 


I've never de-cored a tip before, so I'd be the wrong person to ask :p

 

post #89 of 139

I think de-coring is the speciality of eat2na lol :P

post #90 of 139

@Sprucemaple: The Jays silcon for me made the shouty mids worse, not sure why. I still am having the best luck with the stock tips, though I will be trying the decored olives soon. I am also very close to just ordering the custom tips, seems like the next logical step for me.
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  Sure, I can be overlooking the actual physics, but quantifying it is no problem for me. 



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Edited by whitefroded - 3/17/12 at 11:40am
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