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post #706 of 4414

^  Although it is claimed by the manufacturer that the 4.A (full custom IEM) and the 4.Ai (universal IEM) sound pretty much the same —an interesting claim considering that depending on who makes such claims --AND when-- some people / manufacturers will say the full custom is (much) better than the universal version of it, while others will claim they're very close— I believe you, tomscy2000, have the full custom version (4.A) while cutieboy has the universal one (4.Ai).


Edited by music_4321 - 8/20/12 at 1:27pm
post #707 of 4414

^ That is correct. I can say an owner of the 4.Ai and 4.A on the appreciation thread said they sound identical. ALso the new translucent audios 2plus1 are meant to sound better as a universal because of how the drivers are aligned. 

 

However i am sorry i am going of topic a bit.

post #708 of 4414
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Originally Posted by Swimsonny View Post

^ That is correct. I can say an owner of the 4.Ai and 4.A on the appreciation thread said they sound identical. ALso the new translucent audios 2plus1 are meant to sound better as a universal because of how the drivers are aligned. 

 

However i am sorry i am going of topic a bit.

 

I'm sorry but allow me to be sceptical of those people who have received review samples of the 3.Ai & 4.A1 from the manufacturer, most of whom are inexperienced, BTW, or not really experienced enough, even if they may seem to be by using fancy audio terms they simply learned from these very forums but have really no clue what they really mean.

And forgive me if I take the words of these manufacturers with a huge grain of salt -- after all, manufacturers will say anything to make people believe their products are the best around. Already the same manufacturer (from Heir) wrote a post claiming he'd received an email from someone who had stated the 4.A was better than several high-end full-sized headphones. If that's not blatant advertising, I don't know what is:

 

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Originally Posted by FullCircle View Post

 

The below is from an e-mail I got from one of the first 4.A customers:

 

​ "Having spent another day with them, I cant emphasize enough how pleased I am with them. I have always enjoyed music and tried to invest in quality sound. However, for the past year, I have spent a ridiculous amount of money on head- and earphones. I found myself comfortable financially but not able to do much aside from listen to music/watch TV/read. So, I find myself with a bunch of high-end gear like Beyer T1s, Ultrasone 8s, Grado GS1000s, Westone 3/4, ACS T1, Shure 535 and loads more. However, despite all that great gear, I have never had anything that made me say "Wow, just wow". But, your 4.A did and does. The sound is just amazing. Detailed, punchy, warm yet crisp - it ticks all the sound boxes and does so in a way that is almost magical - Wizard, indeed.

 
Truly great product and a work of art. The craftsmanship is superlative and the IEMs are just jewels."
 
And now this sonic quality can be had without ear mold impressions, without the fees associated with ear mold impressions, and without shipping ear mold impressions! All buttoned up and sealed with the "Burl of Burls," which is Heir Audio's calling card.


I'm just very glad we don't have a FitEar rep posting all over the place—most manufacturers don't do that, either, or are simply not allowed to do so, and quite rightly so— telling people why the TG 334 & TG 111 are the best things since sliced bread.

We already have plenty of shills on head-fi, and people getting free samples or large discounts in exchange for so-called reviews. Several of these people do NOT disclose how they got said pieces of gear they 'review' / talk about. Some of these people even trade or sell these items which goes against HF rules!


Edited by music_4321 - 8/20/12 at 2:04pm
post #709 of 4414

What a mess...can we get on topic, please?

Let them be.

post #710 of 4414

So if the 334 has a similar sound to the W4 and 4.A, then I guess I can pretty much guess how it may sound like. Anyone knows if it's going to be as veiled as the W4? And perhaps someone can compare it to the ES5? That would be probably be a good gauge since they are most likely to be competitors. 


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What a mess...can we get on topic, please?

Let them be.


True, getting on topic is better. I sense some hy-, I rather not say it. 

post #711 of 4414
I haven't read any hype. Hype is the ridiculousness of the eph-100 thread early days. The tg334, to me, sounds nothing like the w4. It doesnt have warmed up mids and has zero veil. Transparency is hallmark. It also sounds nothing like the k3003 with bass filter, which I saw mentioned in another thread and in fact, has a touch less bass presence than the k3003 with reference filter.
post #712 of 4414
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Originally Posted by Jeremypsp View Post

So if the 334 has a similar sound to the W4 and 4.A, then I guess I can pretty much guess how it may sound like.

 

Where did you get this from???

post #713 of 4414
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Originally Posted by shotgunshane View Post

I haven't read any hype. Hype is the ridiculousness of the eph-100 thread early days. The tg334, to me, sounds nothing like the w4. It doesnt have warmed up mids and has zero veil. Transparency is hallmark. It also sounds nothing like the k3003 with bass filter, which I saw mentioned in another thread and in fact, has a touch less bass presence than the k3003 with reference filter.

 

I agree 100% the 334 sounds nothing like the K3003 with the bass filter -- if that was the case, I would have put the 334s up for sale a few minutes after getting them. I also agree they don't really sound like the W4, and think the 334 is a clear step up in several aspects.

 

However, unlike you, I actually think the 334s have a tad more bass than the K3003s with the reference filter.


Edited by music_4321 - 8/21/12 at 6:19am
post #714 of 4414
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Originally Posted by shotgunshane View Post

I haven't read any hype. Hype is the ridiculousness of the eph-100 thread early days. The tg334, to me, sounds nothing like the w4. It doesnt have warmed up mids and has zero veil. Transparency is hallmark. It also sounds nothing like the k3003 with bass filter, which I saw mentioned in another thread and in fact, has a touch less bass presence than the k3003 with reference filter.


Not hype, something else. Just ignore it. 

Well, some guy mentioned having a signature which is a bit like the W4, or so I thought... Also one guy mentioned the TG334 was veiled?  

post #715 of 4414
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Originally Posted by Jeremypsp View Post

So if the 334 has a similar sound to the W4 and 4.A, then I guess I can pretty much guess how it may sound like. Anyone knows if it's going to be as veiled as the W4?

 

The 334 isn't similar to the 4.A, and not similar to the W4 either. I'm not sure where you got that conclusion.

 

I can only say that I enjoy the bass more on the 4.A because it's flatter and more taut. However, from 500-6500 Hz, I'd say that the 334 takes the cake. I've never heard anything better. The 4.A is no slouch, but it's not as good as the 334 here. Above 6.5 kHz, it's a matter of personal preference. The 4.A is more present in this region, leading to a very slight sense of better width, but it's not much wider, while the 334 is kinder and gentler. There's more than enough treble.

post #716 of 4414
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The 334 isn't similar to the 4.A, and not similar to the W4 either. I'm not sure where you got that conclusion.

 

I can only say that I enjoy the bass more on the 4.A because it's flatter and more taut. However, from 500-6500 Hz, I'd say that the 334 takes the cake. I've never heard anything better. The 4.A is no slouch, but it's not as good as the 334 here. Above 6.5 kHz, it's a matter of personal preference. The 4.A is more present in this region, leading to a very slight sense of better width, but it's not much wider, while the 334 is kinder and gentler. There's more than enough treble.


Some guy a few pages back said it, so I thought, yeah. 

So basically the 334 is a completely different beast? Not similar to the W4 or 4.A at all? 

post #717 of 4414
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Some guy a few pages back said it, so I thought, yeah. 

So basically the 334 is a completely different beast? Not similar to the W4 or 4.A at all? 

 

 

Maybe it was my post when I compared the W4 to the TG!334... Like I said then, I heard a few similarities, but I would not call them 'similar' earphones overall. In the areas where I described differences, the gaps were sizable, and made the TG!334's feel much more grand and big sounding, with far better spatial placement and resolution. They are a clear jump up, and are different enough in overall nature that there should be no need to worry if the W4 will offer you most of what the TG!334 does... 

post #718 of 4414
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Some guy a few pages back said it, so I thought, yeah. 

So basically the 334 is a completely different beast? Not similar to the W4 or 4.A at all? 

 

Tonally, I'd say the 334 sounds a little more like the JH13. I found the JH13's mids to be a bit bland, though, while the 334 is much better that regard. Keep in mind that it has been half a year since I last heard the JH13, so memory may be a bit foggy. At the same time, however, Sasaki mentioned the same thing about it sounding like the JH13.

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Originally Posted by tomscy2000 View Post

 

Tonally, I'd say the 334 sounds a little more like the JH13. I found the JH13's mids to be a bit bland, though, while the 334 is much better that regard. Keep in mind that it has been half a year since I last heard the JH13, so memory may be a bit foggy. At the same time, however, Sasaki mentioned the same thing about it sounding like the JH13.


Okay, now I understand, thanks! JH13 is sure neutral with a slight bump in the bass, so does that mean the 334 has a similar characteristic of being extremely neutral yet having an ever so slight bump in the lows? 

post #720 of 4414
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Originally Posted by music_4321 View Post

I also agree they don't really sound like the W4, and think the 334 is a clear step up in several aspects.

Would you and anyone else who has heard both please elaborate? I feel that I'm not getting the sound with the W4's that I want.

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