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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post  Possibly he means it's not as energetic which may be misinterpreted as slow in timing? i.e. notes & beats are still hitting on time but not have the "bite" or impact that gives the perception that it's slow? If it's this, then I could understand it a little more 'cos the 334 to me is more a warm, lush, and intimately involving kind of signature rather than a "by the edge of your seat" kind of presentation.


There are numerous possibilities; one could be that hearing a greater degree of stereo separation (one of the few things the AK120 is actually really good at) is causing him to perceive the music not to be "full" and "energetic".

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Possibly he means it's not as energetic which may be misinterpreted as slow in timing? i.e. notes & beats are still hitting on time but not have the "bite" or impact that gives the perception that it's slow? If it's this, then I could understand it a little more 'cos the 334 to me is more a warm, lush, and intimately involving kind of signature rather than a "by the edge of your seat" kind of presentation.

You are probably right, AnakChan. The TG334 has a longer decay in its bass. Coupled with the slightly richer musical presentation, it comes across as being more laid back?
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Possibly he means it's not as energetic which may be misinterpreted as slow in timing? i.e. notes & beats are still hitting on time but not have the "bite" or impact that gives the perception that it's slow? If it's this, then I could understand it a little more 'cos the 334 to me is more a warm, lush, and intimately involving kind of signature rather than a "by the edge of your seat" kind of presentation.

 

It could be the slower bass decay which is giving him that perception. Definitely gave that to me but it was more so specific in the bass region than anything else. A very much compacted sound signature and virtually no air.

post #3409 of 3760

remove some sub bass= increase bass speed! (at least the feeling of speed).

same as my fellow IE80 and tape mod. we kill some sub bass to actually feel like the bass is improved in quality.

 

I can't say if it's because we got used to hearing music from sources with no sub bass(too much time in the elevator?), or if we just don't like sub bass when we don't have the "speaker to body" vibrations that comes with it, but most people seem to call their bass "better", "better controlled", "faster", when they seriously roll off.


Edited by castleofargh - 3/18/14 at 12:13am
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Possibly he means it's not as energetic which may be misinterpreted as slow in timing? i.e. notes & beats are still hitting on time but not have the "bite" or impact that gives the perception that it's slow? If it's this, then I could understand it a little more 'cos the 334 to me is more a warm, lush, and intimately involving kind of signature rather than a "by the edge of your seat" kind of presentation.

 

It could be the slower bass decay which is giving him that perception. Definitely gave that to me but it was more so specific in the bass region than anything else. A very much compacted sound signature and virtually no air.

Feeling a bit confused here. Are you talking about the AK120 or the 334?

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The 334 has slow bass decay.

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^ indeed. For a BAs iem, it has slow bass decay
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^ indeed. For a BAs iem, it has slow bass decay

But that's also part of its draw and fun isn't it? biggrin.gif
while it has longer decay I feel it still present the notes in adequate accuracy, imo much better than 846 which is another BA phones with slow bass.
post #3414 of 3760
^ indeed biggrin.gif
846 bass is almost like subwoofer-type of feeling, while 334 is more intimate... lol!
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Possibly he means it's not as energetic which may be misinterpreted as slow in timing? i.e. notes & beats are still hitting on time but not have the "bite" or impact that gives the perception that it's slow? If it's this, then I could understand it a little more 'cos the 334 to me is more a warm, lush, and intimately involving kind of signature rather than a "by the edge of your seat" kind of presentation.

 

It could be the slower bass decay which is giving him that perception. Definitely gave that to me but it was more so specific in the bass region than anything else. A very much compacted sound signature and virtually no air.

Feeling a bit confused here. Are you talking about the AK120 or the 334?

I guess that was sort of my impression as well until I got the right ear tips and the right fit and applied a bit of treble boost (need to because I'm pretty old). Do you still have the 334, and if so are you positively sure you have the right tips and fit? Experimenting with tips and fit was extremely rewarding for me. I now appreciate the 334 at least as much as I appreciate my AKG K3003, which according to james444 is very similar in sound to the 1P2, which I believe you appreciate a lot.

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I’ve now been ABing the Comply Ts-500 tips and the stock tips of my Sennheiser CX300, which seem to be identical to the Fitear black medium stock tips, but are slightly softer and for some reason give me a slightly better fit (material?/not exactly the same shape after all?/imagination?). The Sennheiser CX300 tips also have a bore diameter of 6.0 mm (outlet side) instead of the 5.5 mm diameter of the stock tips. Anyway, basically I consider them identical.

Listening to Dire Straits’ “Sultans of Swing”; with the Sennheiser and/or FitEar stock tips it feels like the musicians are bit farther away from me and a bit more spread out, plus the perceived bass response is tad less pronounced. Also, it feels like the midrange is more pronounced with the stock tips but could of course just be the result of the perceived lesser bass response. On the other hand the Comply Ts-500 tips give a more intimate experience that sounds a bit fuller, a bit “softer” and actually a bit more resolving (lots of “bit”s here, hard to avoid); very enjoyable indeed. Well, the differences are hardly “mind blowing” but definitely palpable. I really can’t say which tips I prefer. I guess it depends on my mood.

Again, a size XL Ortofon tip with a bore diameter of 5.5 mm would indeed be something I’d go for!

BTW, what a marvellous, godly good phone this is!!! :etysmile: 

 

I bought some CX300 tips and they're the best I've found so far for me!  They do seem identical to the stock tips, but slightly softer, and better yet, the large size is sized between the stock medium and the stock large which creates the best fit for me. I also prefer the more open sound vs the more intimate sound I get with the Comply T500's.  Thanks for the tip (pun intended!).

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I guess that was sort of my impression as well until I got the right ear tips and the right fit and applied a bit of treble boost (need to because I'm pretty old). Do you still have the 334, and if so are you positively sure you have the right tips and fit? Experimenting with tips and fit was extremely rewarding for me. I now appreciate the 334 at least as much as I appreciate my AKG K3003, which according to james444 is very similar in sound to the 1P2, which I believe you appreciate a lot.

 

The 1Plus2 and AKG3003 do share similarities but they are also quite different at the same time. It just depends on if those differences are important to you or not I guess ;).

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I’ve now been ABing the Comply Ts-500 tips and the stock tips of my Sennheiser CX300, which seem to be identical to the Fitear black medium stock tips, but are slightly softer and for some reason give me a slightly better fit (material?/not exactly the same shape after all?/imagination?). The Sennheiser CX300 tips also have a bore diameter of 6.0 mm (outlet side) instead of the 5.5 mm diameter of the stock tips. Anyway, basically I consider them identical.

Listening to Dire Straits’ “Sultans of Swing”; with the Sennheiser and/or FitEar stock tips it feels like the musicians are bit farther away from me and a bit more spread out, plus the perceived bass response is tad less pronounced. Also, it feels like the midrange is more pronounced with the stock tips but could of course just be the result of the perceived lesser bass response. On the other hand the Comply Ts-500 tips give a more intimate experience that sounds a bit fuller, a bit “softer” and actually a bit more resolving (lots of “bit”s here, hard to avoid); very enjoyable indeed. Well, the differences are hardly “mind blowing” but definitely palpable. I really can’t say which tips I prefer. I guess it depends on my mood.

Again, a size XL Ortofon tip with a bore diameter of 5.5 mm would indeed be something I’d go for!

BTW, what a marvellous, godly good phone this is!!! :etysmile: 

 

 

I bought some CX300 tips and they're the best I've found so far for me!  They do seem identical to the stock tips, but slightly softer, and better yet, the large size is sized between the stock medium and the stock large which creates the best fit for me. I also prefer the more open sound vs the more intimate sound I get with the Comply T500's.  Thanks for the tip (pun intended!).

Wow, something I wrote was actually useful to someone else! Thanks for telling me!

I’ve ordered a bunch of replacement tips for the CX300 so it will be interesting to see what they’ll do. For now I use the medium size stock tips of the CX300 and they’re almost perfect for me in size, just a tad too small. I wish I would have saved the large CX300 stock tips to try. The fact that they are a bit softer perhaps contributes to making it easier to get a better fit.

I never used to enjoy jazz in general. Years and years ago my brother gave me a CD with the sound track to a Swedish jazz film (“Stora och små män). The only reason I kept it was that it was a gift. However, the other night I listened to it through the 334 with my newfound discoveries about how extremely important tips and fit are, and I now feel weightless listening to this stuff. It’s just amazing. Listening to the track “All These Years” with the saxophonist Bernt Rosengren as I write and I’m in heaven.

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I guess that was sort of my impression as well until I got the right ear tips and the right fit and applied a bit of treble boost (need to because I'm pretty old). Do you still have the 334, and if so are you positively sure you have the right tips and fit? Experimenting with tips and fit was extremely rewarding for me. I now appreciate the 334 at least as much as I appreciate my AKG K3003, which according to james444 is very similar in sound to the 1P2, which I believe you appreciate a lot.

 

The 1Plus2 and AKG3003 do share similarities but they are also quite different at the same time. It just depends on if those differences are important to you or not I guess ;).

 

Well, this thread is about the 334, but anyway for those interested here is james444's post comparing the "AKG K3003" and the "Tralucent 1plus2.".

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I'm having withdrawals.  My first headphones withdrawals ever.  :(  

 

I have the 846 which I am going to return because it cannot compared to 334 IMO.  I don't like 846 vocals, it's too grainy, but at the same time, you feel the grains.  I don't mind grainy as long as it's not so pronounced.  334, the vocals are wonderful, nice and wide and detailed without the grain being so pronounced.  I personally think if it's grainy and too forward it becomes too fatiguing after a long time and music starts to sound terrible.  Not with 334, it's great for extended listing, believe me I've had 4-5 hours pass by without me knowing that much time has passed by.

 

I don't think the Sure signature of grainy sound is really that great, matter a fact, it's the very reason why I hate Shures.  

 

Is Hidition like that?  Is that what is meant by clarity?  The really forward grainy vocals?

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