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The reason why I tested the TG334 with the HiFi-M8 is because I want to know if they pair well. I'm actually planning to get the TG334 because I'm very impressed with it's performance with the HiFi-M8 compared to stock iPhone 4S, not that it sounds bad straight off the iPhone 4S but it sure sounds more controlled in the low mid region when paired with the HiFi-M8. Btw any idea what's the impedance of the TG334. Seems to be pretty low impedance from my experience.

Did a quick search in this thread and according to it, it's this:

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Originally Posted by Saraguie View Post What is the impedance of our beloved FT!334s with the stock cable?
 

 

Should be between 43-45 ohms

 

 

That means this headphones have high SPL or sensitivity.  I thought they would have the same impedances as the customs and high end sensitive iems usually around 16ohms, I was wrong, I now see why they sound stable on my Galaxy S4.  Hiss has more to do with sensitivity though.

http://rinchoi.blogspot.fr/2012/12/fit-ear-to-go-334.html

look at the first graph. usual specs would say 45ohm because they pick the value at 1khz and leave it be. but as you can see it varies a lot accross frequencies. I try to talk a little about it in my review(self promotion power!).

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Ok, thanks, wow, it varies quite a lot, but mids to high should be quite stable since it's output impedance is significant there.  The lows may not be stable with high output impedance portables is my guess since it drops down around 15ohms.  That explains the FR graph of high hump at the low frequencies.

 

I looked at the first post and noticed it says MH 334 on the image. :ph34r:  

 


Edited by SilverEars - 3/16/14 at 4:24pm
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Thanks for the info guys, I think I'll need to test them again in a quiet environment to see if the hiss is evident. If the hiss is present in the softest part of music then it's a deal breaker for me.

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Man I sold these, but I got to say these are the most accurate and fun headphones I've ever owned.  Sad to let go of them.:(  I listed these while I was figuring out how to maximize the sound, and while I find out how well they sound, I have to sell them.  I hope tupac puts them to good use.

 

Forget joker's review guys(he didn't rate these that high, possibly he didn't have the right tips or didn't know how to fit them right, it took me awhile for me to figure it out, only we know how well they sound), read the threads, and sometimes hypes do live up.  I guess this time my guts did find the right iems.  

 

I know these are expensive, and these are my first crazy risk I've ever taken(I mean come on universals for $1400?), and I find that you can find some really accurate iems.  I know people that don't want to go beyond a certain price range, but you will never know what you are missing unless you take a chance.

 

If you love vocals like I do, they will not disappoint.  The most accurate vocals I've ever heard, just puts tingles in you, you can't stop(I've had so many countless night with these).  The accuracy of the vocals provides so much emotions to the music, it puts tingles down my spine every time hear such intimate vocals.  

 

I'm just afraid I will not come across sound like this again :(   Learned quite a deal about iems playing with these.


Edited by SilverEars - 3/16/14 at 9:33pm
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The TG334 are truly among the best universal iems i've heard to-date.

 

Unfortunately, the reason why i never bought one was it made my music sounded half a second slower when paired with the iRiver AK120.

Tried it on a few AK120 and the result persisted. A shame really.

 

Probably may revisit them later.

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This is probably what should've been quoted:

 

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Originally Posted by tomscy2000 View Post
 

Impedance is measured at 1 kHz for most purposes, but it's actually not that important with BA IEMs, you need to look at the entire impedance curve. Traditionally, it was okay to just look at impedance at a single point because dynamic coil driver impedances are usually flat with respect to frequency, but not so with BAs. Because of the crossover circuit implemented and the choice of drivers, the 334 rises to 50-60 ohms in the midrange, but is as low as 15 ohms in the bass and treble. I have no idea what the Miracle's impedance curve looks like. Usually, as a rule of thumb, if you're looking for good damping factor when pairing amps with BA IEMs, choose the amp with the lowest possible output Z; multiple BA IEMs usually can't be counted on to have anything higher than 10 ohms at their lowest point in the impedance curve. Don't have time to explain more. Hope this helps.

post #3397 of 3832

hi tomyscy2000,

 

Does this mean the slower delivery in the music is due to the varying impedance of the 334 at different stages?

post #3398 of 3832
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Originally Posted by kenz View Post hi tomyscy2000, Does this mean the slower delivery in the music is due to the varying impedance of the 334 at different stages?


What do you mean by "slower delivery" ?

 

At any rate, my instinct is to say "no" --- I think you're talking about the ADSR and decay characteristics of the 334...

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With my short term experience with the TG334, it sure blew me away with what it's capable of delivering although I can't say that it has an absolute neutral sound. There seems to be some coloration from low mid to bass region but it's such a nice coloration that somehow the sound just envelope and grabs me. I don't find the highs lacking in any way, maybe just a tad soft on cymbals top end sheen that's all. It reminds me of the Sennheiser HD600 highs, and oh.....the mids....simply breath taking. Honestly I can't even imagine myself forking out this amount of money for a universal IEM but after listening to the TG334 I think I just might. I'll definitely go back and do my final check on the TG334 before departing with my hard earned cash :D 

 

I'm definitely selling a few IEMs in my collection to help fund this purchase.


Edited by Francisk - 3/17/14 at 12:36am
post #3400 of 3832
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Originally Posted by SilverEars View Post
 

Man I sold these, but I got to say these are the most accurate and fun headphones I've ever owned.  Sad to let go of them.:(  I listed these while I was figuring out how to maximize the sound, and while I find out how well they sound, I have to sell them.  I hope tupac puts them to good use.

 

Forget joker's review guys(he didn't rate these that high, possibly he didn't have the right tips or didn't know how to fit them right, it took me awhile for me to figure it out, only we know how well they sound), read the threads, and sometimes hypes do live up.  I guess this time my guts did find the right iems.  

 

I know these are expensive, and these are my first crazy risk I've ever taken(I mean come on universals for $1400?), and I find that you can find some really accurate iems.  I know people that don't want to go beyond a certain price range, but you will never know what you are missing unless you take a chance.

 

If you love vocals like I do, they will not disappoint.  The most accurate vocals I've ever heard, just puts tingles in you, you can't stop(I've had so many countless night with these).  The accuracy of the vocals provides so much emotions to the music, it puts tingles down my spine every time hear such intimate vocals.  

 

I'm just afraid I will not come across sound like this again :(   Learned quite a deal about iems playing with these.

I'll second that, but should mention that I feel the same about the Etymotic ER-4S. However, there is some extra magic/energy in the 334 that I really don't want to be without now that I can have it.

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Yes, I'm also a happy ER4PT owner and TG334 surely has some magic :D

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What do you mean by "slower delivery" ?

 

At any rate, my instinct is to say "no" --- I think you're talking about the ADSR and decay characteristics of the 334...

 

Oh. It's like the instruments and vocals are moving at a slow motion?

 

Tried on a DX100 and DX50, and the 334 sounded great and spot on, just on the AK120, everything sounded like it was half a second slower.

Not sure if it's synergy, tuning or the built-in amp isn't doing 334 justice.

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Originally Posted by kenz View Post  Oh. It's like the instruments and vocals are moving at a slow motion?

 

Tried on a DX100 and DX50, and the 334 sounded great and spot on, just on the AK120, everything sounded like it was half a second slower.

Not sure if it's synergy, tuning or the built-in amp isn't doing 334 justice.


Hmm, don't know. It shouldn't sound "slower" with an AK120, AFAIK. The 334 is a very sensitive earphone, and really doesn't take too much voltage to drive. Current is always an issue with IEMs, but while I don't have that much experience with the AK120, it shouldn't lack too much current driving the 334.

post #3404 of 3832
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Originally Posted by SilverEars View Post
 

 I hope tupac puts them to good use

 

 

If you love vocals like I do, they will not disappoint.  The most accurate vocals I've ever heard, just puts tingles in you, you can't stop(I've had so many countless night with these).  The accuracy of the vocals provides so much emotions to the music, it puts tingles down my spine every time hear such intimate vocals.  

 

 

I will :) 

 

Yep, that's the beauty of 334, the vocals, which are why I got them from you ;)

post #3405 of 3832
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Originally Posted by tomscy2000 View Post
 


Hmm, don't know. It shouldn't sound "slower" with an AK120, AFAIK. The 334 is a very sensitive earphone, and really doesn't take too much voltage to drive. Current is always an issue with IEMs, but while I don't have that much experience with the AK120, it shouldn't lack too much current driving the 334.

 

Possibly he means it's not as energetic which may be misinterpreted as slow in timing? i.e. notes & beats are still hitting on time but not have the "bite" or impact that gives the perception that it's slow? If it's this, then I could understand it a little more 'cos the 334 to me is more a warm, lush, and intimately involving kind of signature rather than a "by the edge of your seat" kind of presentation.

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