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post #2491 of 4412
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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post

 

I didn't get to try the cables off the TG!334 but I did try with the MH335DW (so therefore possibly different synergies if one is a believer). I could hardly hear a difference between the BTG Starlight with the 000 even and for ergonomic reasons (if the BTG Starlight connector is slightly modified) would be a more comfortable cable than the 000.

 

The ALO cable "brightened" the MH335DW signature somewhat but I felt I didn't get as much detail as I did with the 000's.

 

Fair enough observation. I found the BTG cable (Sunrise) to be closer to the ALO (in terms of brightness/detail) than the 000 cable. It's so much about splitting hairs though when dealing with cables....

post #2492 of 4412
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Fair enough observation. I found the BTG cable (Sunrise) to be closer to the ALO (in terms of brightness/detail) than the 000 cable. It's so much about splitting hairs though when dealing with cables....

 

I'll give it a shot again with my TG!334 after my vacation. I've loaned my 334's to a friend whilst I'm outta town. Could well be a synergy difference between the 334 and 335 with the aforementioned cables.

post #2493 of 4412
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Fair enough observation. I found the BTG cable (Sunrise) to be closer to the ALO (in terms of brightness/detail) than the 000 cable. It's so much about splitting hairs though when dealing with cables....

 

When you say splitting hairs, do you include the 001 in the comparison?  I'm hearing a sizable difference between the 000 and 001, more than I would have expected.  But I haven't heard any of the other offerings.

 

 

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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post

I could hardly hear a difference between the BTG Starlight with the 000 even and for ergonomic reasons (if the BTG Starlight connector is slightly modified) would be a more comfortable cable than the 000.

 

 

So there are two different BTG cables, and it sounds like the Starlight is the one to get to be sound competitive with the 000?  What's the advantage of Oyaide vs. Viablue vs. stock?  The price is too attractive that I think I'll have to pick one up...


Edited by bobeau - 3/30/13 at 1:00pm
post #2494 of 4412
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Originally Posted by cn11 View Post

Good grief, that cable looks so clunky and humongous, and for $350? I think I'll pass. The BTG cable is so much more tailored to the aesthetic of the 334, and for less than a third the cost.

I think the one in the picture is 8 conductor. They also offer 4 conductor cables.  

post #2495 of 4412
I think the splitting hairs comment was being made for all the cables. If you are found a large difference and it wasn't simply placebo, IMO it is more probable there was a difference on insertion or volume than cable being responsible.
Edited by KraftD1 - 3/30/13 at 5:14pm
post #2496 of 4412
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Originally Posted by bobeau View Post

 

When you say splitting hairs, do you include the 001 in the comparison?  I'm hearing a sizable difference between the 000 and 001, more than I would have expected.  But I haven't heard any of the other offerings.

 

 

 

 

My comment was in reference to the upgrade cables only, excluding the 001. The 001 sounds noticeably below the rest, including the 000.

post #2497 of 4412
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Originally Posted by bobeau View Post

 

When you say splitting hairs, do you include the 001 in the comparison?  I'm hearing a sizable difference between the 000 and 001, more than I would have expected.  But I haven't heard any of the other offerings.

 

 

 

So there are two different BTG cables, and it sounds like the Starlight is the one to get to be sound competitive with the 000?  What's the advantage of Oyaide vs. Viablue vs. stock?  The price is too attractive that I think I'll have to pick one up...

 

I have the Sunrise cable, which is copper only. I chose that one because it was the only one he offers which has black insulation to hide any oxidation. Even that as an all copper wire cable is right up there with the ALO SXC silver, sonically. It's a touch warmer, and mellower, but offers about 90% of the detail/sparkle/space. 

post #2498 of 4412

I want 100% of what is possible to obtain from my 334. Whiplash has in my experience the best ergonomics/sound ratio I have had the pleasure to try regarding IEM cables on their 4 conductor offerings. 

I might just pull the trigger on a 8 conductor to see if the 000 can be beaten in terms of sound. No way will the Twag be more ridgid than the 000 even with 8 conductors is my bet. 

 

My 8 conductor V3 for the lcd is way more flexible than my 000. 


Edited by milarepa - 3/31/13 at 2:12am
post #2499 of 4412
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I want 100% of what is possible to obtain from my 334.

 

Haven't been following this thread, but you might want to try out Rin's suggestions on tweaking the 334, which will most likely have a more profound impact than swapping cables.

post #2500 of 4412
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Haven't been following this thread, but you might want to try out Rin's suggestions on tweaking the 334, which will most likely have a more profound impact than swapping cables.

Rin's comments, a partial cut and paste:

 

ON SECOND THOUGHT #4: Try to block one of the side bores (in this case, the lower one), and add a 100-Ohm resistor to your 334; a nicely tamed mid-range obtained. And the damper for the titanium tubing is merely of a 330-Ohm, so don't even bother with it unless less treble is desired.

 

 Has anyone attempted to block one of the side bores?  Would this mean opening up the shell to accomplish?

 

Adding a 100-Ohm resistor, meaning at the input plug, like a 1/8" SE into another SE 1/8" adaptor? This would give a 145 Ohm resistance.  Anyone try this?

 

These suggestions seem be very strange. 

post #2501 of 4412
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Originally Posted by james444 View Post

 

Haven't been following this thread, but you might want to try out Rin's suggestions on tweaking the 334, which will most likely have a more profound impact than swapping cables.

Rin's comments, a partial cut and paste:

 

ON SECOND THOUGHT #4: Try to block one of the side bores (in this case, the lower one), and add a 100-Ohm resistor to your 334; a nicely tamed mid-range obtained. And the damper for the titanium tubing is merely of a 330-Ohm, so don't even bother with it unless less treble is desired.

 

 Has anyone attempted to block one of the side bores?  Would this mean opening up the shell to accomplish?

 

Adding a 100-Ohm resistor, meaning at the input plug, like a 1/8" SE into another SE 1/8" adaptor? This would give a 145 Ohm resistance.  Anyone try this?

 

These suggestions seem be very strange. 

Taming the mid-range??? Like cutting the boobs of my woman????

post #2502 of 4412
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Originally Posted by james444 View Post

 

Haven't been following this thread, but you might want to try out Rin's suggestions on tweaking the 334, which will most likely have a more profound impact than swapping cables.

Rin's comments, a partial cut and paste:

 

ON SECOND THOUGHT #4: Try to block one of the side bores (in this case, the lower one), and add a 100-Ohm resistor to your 334; a nicely tamed mid-range obtained. And the damper for the titanium tubing is merely of a 330-Ohm, so don't even bother with it unless less treble is desired.

 

 Has anyone attempted to block one of the side bores?  Would this mean opening up the shell to accomplish?

 

Adding a 100-Ohm resistor, meaning at the input plug, like a 1/8" SE into another SE 1/8" adaptor? This would give a 145 Ohm resistance.  Anyone try this?

 

These suggestions seem be very strange. 

 

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Taming the mid-range??? Like cutting the boobs of my woman????

 

Hahahahahaha........."All Aboard the Crazy Train"  One would have to be nutz !

post #2503 of 4412
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Taming the mid-range??? Like cutting the boobs of my woman????

 

Ha... thank you good sir, you just made my day.

post #2504 of 4412
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Taming the mid-range??? Like cutting the boobs of my woman????

 

Actually... it means enhancing the boobs. wink.gif

 

While Rin may not always be precise with his descriptions, he surely knows his stuff and backs it up with measurements. Of course you have to look at the before/after response graphs to understand what he means:

 

 

In fact the almost 10db dip in the midrange is flattened to only 5db, and the taming of midbass means that the mids will get even more room to breathe.

 

Whether you'll like the change in sound signature on your 334s, is however a different story, but I've tried out Rin's suggestions on several of my IEMs and always found them very accurate.

 

Btw, I've bought my resistor adapters from here.

 

Edit: Inks posted that these adapters are better quality. They're also cheaper.


Edited by james444 - 4/1/13 at 8:39pm
post #2505 of 4412
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Actually... it means enhancing the boobs. wink.gif

 

Btw, I've bought my resistor adapters from here.

 

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The 33Ohm resistor with a 000 cable seems to sound like the way to go... Or maybe even the new Whiplash cables? gs1000.gif

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