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Been lurking for a while.  I got caught up in the vintage audio scene, needed a DAC, bought a Maverick Tube DAC, had the headphone amp also, so I figured I'd get a pair of phones.  Picked up a pair of Sennheiser HD238's from BestBuy (a year or two ago?) figuring they could do double duty with my ipod.  Did some mods to them I found on this site (thanks!) and I do enjoy them, but figure there's a lot better out there.  I have no dealers close that have phones, so I'm limited to researching and trying to make a good decision from there.  Anyway, I thought I'd look for better sound, but not a lot more cost.  Researched what everyone had to say about the Samson's, Panny RP-HTF600S, Shure SRH440's, but found some negative comments and felt that it was more of a 'good for the money' but not necessarily good?  Anyway, looking thru all the threads, I came across the AKG K701's, which were much more than I wanted to spend, but....  Thought I was ready to pull the trigger and found some somewhat negative comments, but they led me to the AKG K240MKII's.  Not to say that I haven't found some negative comments on the 240's, but overall, they seem to be very well liked and the description of how they sound appeals to me.  I'm not a bass head, want a little color, don't want it too sterile or clinical, but engaging and the ability to hear the details without fatigue.  I also like that I can hear if someone addresses me and that they won't leak enough to be annoying to people around me.  My main hope is that I'll have an 'AHA!' moment with the new cans as compared the low end Senns I'm currently using.  OK!  That's my introduction.  If anyone has any insight, it would be greatly appreciated.  I haven't pulled the trigger on the 240' yet, but I'm planning on having them ordered very soon. 

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One thing to note is that since everyone has different tastes, pretty much every headphone will have its detractors. It's literally impossible to please everyone as the various categories of music preferences are mutually exclusive. 

 

Not that I'm any kind of expert but it may help other people opine if you say what you like about your HD238s. Also, based on what you've read from reviews, what qualities do you want in your "perfect" headphone?

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Check out the AKG Q 701.  It's bass is a bit understated when compared to the original K 240 studio, but every other aspect is significantly superior--including (but certainly not limited to) the clarity and tightness of the bass.

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KG - I've read the same in my research, but also the opposite.  I guess my main thought right now would be, (which I won't know until I get them) is how do the 240's compare to the Senn's I have?  I'm hoping for a pretty noticeable improvement.  The 701's are an extra Benjamin.  Also, my concern is that a lot of my research calls out the 701's as clinical/sterile and can get harsh in the upper regions.  The 240's are said to roll off a little on the top and be very easy to listen to. 

 

Phamkl - From my post above.  "I'm not a bass head, want a little color, don't want it too sterile or clinical, but engaging and the ability to hear the details without fatigue. I also like that I can hear if someone addresses me and that they won't leak enough to be annoying to people around me." 

 

Not sure if it's my "perfect" headphone, but my next step in the journey.  I have too many hobby's and understand that it's a process. I have no intention to think that I'm going to get my perfect headphone right now, when I really don't have enough experience in this to know exactly what that is.  I've been at the 'speakered' audio game for some time and have found my system....for now.  The journey is the fun.

 

Thanks for the feedback!

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KG - I've read the same in my research, but also the opposite.  I guess my main thought right now would be, (which I won't know until I get them) is how do the 240's compare to the Senn's I have?  I'm hoping for a pretty noticeable improvement.  The 701's are an extra Benjamin.  Also, my concern is that a lot of my research calls out the 701's as clinical/sterile and can get harsh in the upper regions.  The 240's are said to roll off a little on the top and be very easy to listen to. 


I have both of the AKG cans I referenced.  While I like the 240, the Q 701 is in another league and is one of my favorite headphones.  It (maybe along with my Senn HD 600) is the best I have for hearing everything on the "record".

 

I don't have your Senns, but use the HD 437 with my computer.  I also have the HD 598.  The Q 701 is clearly better than anything below the HD 598.  The HD 598 and Q 701 are very different.  So which one you prefer between the two of them may come down to personal preference.

 

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kg - my bad, I was referring to the K701's. Did a little more research on the Q's, and you probable just spent some more of my money! Thanks for the feedback. Going to do a bit more reading
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Final question, promise!biggrin.gif  After endlessly reading here and anywhere else I can gather information, I'm still in a bit of a dilemna.  I really want to pull the trigger on the Q701's.  But....from what I've read, my Maverick tubemagic dac/amp may not be a great marriage, plus I keep reading how revealing they are.  I listen to apple lossless files on itunes and (free) pandora.  I'm thinking the Q's may be too much phone for my source and what I'm listening to.  Everything I've read about the K240MKII's is that they are a little less revealing, but very balanced and fun!  I'm thinking that my source may not pair up well with the Q's and the K240's are going to be a bit more forgiving overall.  With that in mind, are the Q's worth the extra $100 over the K240's IN MY SYSTEM?  I'm also thinking about picking up a Fiio E10.  Again, from what I've read, it will work wtih the Q's (not as well as the E9) but should be excellent with the K240's.  My hope is that the K240's will 'wow' me over my entry-level Senn HD238's.  I'm not afraid of the journey if I were to spend money on the Q's (or equivalent) in the future along with upgrading my source, as long as this step (K240's & maybe E10) is better than what I have now.  Thanks for any input.

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You know, I think you have hit the same point that everyone comes to where you really aren't going to know until you try it yourself. If you get the K240s will you feel like you settled and wish you had atleast tried the Q701s? Will you feel like you have limited your future choices by choosing one over the other? Can you get either headphone from a place that accepts returns? One thing I would suggest is to not expect to be "wowed" that might be setting yourself up for disappointment.
 

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Final question, promise!biggrin.gif  After endlessly reading here and anywhere else I can gather information, I'm still in a bit of a dilemna.  I really want to pull the trigger on the Q701's.  But....from what I've read, my Maverick tubemagic dac/amp may not be a great marriage, plus I keep reading how revealing they are.  I listen to apple lossless files on itunes and (free) pandora.  I'm thinking the Q's may be too much phone for my source and what I'm listening to.  Everything I've read about the K240MKII's is that they are a little less revealing, but very balanced and fun!  I'm thinking that my source may not pair up well with the Q's and the K240's are going to be a bit more forgiving overall.  With that in mind, are the Q's worth the extra $100 over the K240's IN MY SYSTEM?  I'm also thinking about picking up a Fiio E10.  Again, from what I've read, it will work wtih the Q's (not as well as the E9) but should be excellent with the K240's.  My hope is that the K240's will 'wow' me over my entry-level Senn HD238's.  I'm not afraid of the journey if I were to spend money on the Q's (or equivalent) in the future along with upgrading my source, as long as this step (K240's & maybe E10) is better than what I have now.  Thanks for any input.



 

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Q701's on the way! They'll be at the house tomorrow.  I'll post back my initial (un-burnt) impressions.  Probably leave them play all weekend to try to break them in.  Thanks for all the feedback.  I hope these can contain me for while. 

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I think you will be very pleased.  The Q 701 is one of my personal favorites.  I look forward to seeing your thoughts on them.

post #11 of 13
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You guys are killing me! Just ordered a couple opamps for my maverick dac/amp. Read thru the enormous thread and have high hopes. Can't wait for the weekend.
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Final question, promise!biggrin.gif  After endlessly reading here and anywhere else I can gather information, I'm still in a bit of a dilemna.  I really want to pull the trigger on the Q701's.  But....from what I've read, my Maverick tubemagic dac/amp may not be a great marriage, plus I keep reading how revealing they are.  I listen to apple lossless files on itunes and (free) pandora.  I'm thinking the Q's may be too much phone for my source and what I'm listening to.  Everything I've read about the K240MKII's is that they are a little less revealing, but very balanced and fun!  I'm thinking that my source may not pair up well with the Q's and the K240's are going to be a bit more forgiving overall.  With that in mind, are the Q's worth the extra $100 over the K240's IN MY SYSTEM?  I'm also thinking about picking up a Fiio E10.  Again, from what I've read, it will work wtih the Q's (not as well as the E9) but should be excellent with the K240's.  My hope is that the K240's will 'wow' me over my entry-level Senn HD238's.  I'm not afraid of the journey if I were to spend money on the Q's (or equivalent) in the future along with upgrading my source, as long as this step (K240's & maybe E10) is better than what I have now.  Thanks for any input.


I know they have to break in, but I am definitely wowed! Listened to a few of my favorites in iTunes (apple lossless) and have been listening to pandora for the past hour. These phones mate up well with my maverick. Plenty of power and crystal clear. I'll let them play for a few days. I'm extremely pleased with my purchase and wanted to thank everyone for the excellent feedback and suggestions.
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Awesome! I hope that I am equally wowed when I get my Q701s today.

 

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