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post #76 of 85
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Originally Posted by LFC_SL View Post

Not wanting to look like a complete stalker tongue_smile.gif, but you still stand by your past posts Spyro about W2 vs UM2?

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/554336/um2-sound-signature-vs-w2

http://www.head-fi.org/t/479262/um2-vs-westone-2s


I guess you caught me in a flip-flop.  My tastes have flip-flopped from "accurate and detailed" to "fun" and back and forth.  Just look at my IEM history, and probably 1/3 of those I bought 2-3 times over.

 

I have been here 9 years and try to help people the best I can in layman's terms.  I try to explain why I like one thing over another but I guess I contradicted myself with the history you pulled up.   But as the years go by I realize more and more what I like and, obviously, try to share it with others and if people PM me I take the time to give constructive feedback based on all the errors I made.  That's really it.

 

So let's try this again.  UM2 versus W2:

 

W2:  Terrific detail throughout.  Decent sized soundstage.  Bass may satisfy many but lacks a real fullness and warmth.  Presentation is more about "accuracy and detail" but may come across as slightly cold and unemotional to some (but not to the degree of Etymotics)  It sort of does everything "good" but nothing really great which makes you wanting more.

 

UM2: Nice thick bassy sound.  Allows you to use treble EQ without sacrificing much in fullness of sound.  Midrange is truly phenommenal.  About best ever heard and preferred over Shure.  Treble is rolled off but EQ makes it adequate.  Soundstage smaller than W2 but not as closed in as UM3X.  Overall a very buttery smooth and natural sound.  If you like vocals and acoustic, UM2 is the way to go.

 

Today, I would take the UM2 over the W2 but would certainly take the W3 over both.

 

I apologize if I confused or mis-informed anyone on W2 verus UM2 from previous posts.
 

 

post #77 of 85
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Originally Posted by Spyro View Post

I guess you caught me in a flip-flop.  My tastes have flip-flopped from "accurate and detailed" to "fun" and back and forth.  Just look at my IEM history, and probably 1/3 of those I bought 2-3 times over.

 

I have been here 9 years and try to help people the best I can in layman's terms.  I try to explain why I like one thing over another but I guess I contradicted myself with the history you pulled up.   But as the years go by I realize more and more what I like and, obviously, try to share it with others and if people PM me I take the time to give constructive feedback based on all the errors I made.  That's really it.

 

So let's try this again.  UM2 versus W2:

 

W2:  Terrific detail throughout.  Decent sized soundstage.  Bass may satisfy many but lacks a real fullness and warmth.  Presentation is more about "accuracy and detail" but may come across as slightly cold and unemotional to some (but not to the degree of Etymotics)  It sort of does everything "good" but nothing really great which makes you wanting more.

 

UM2: Nice thick bassy sound.  Allows you to use treble EQ without sacrificing much in fullness of sound.  Midrange is truly phenommenal.  About best ever heard and preferred over Shure.  Treble is rolled off but EQ makes it adequate.  Soundstage smaller than W2 but not as closed in as UM3X.  Overall a very buttery smooth and natural sound.  If you like vocals and acoustic, UM2 is the way to go.

 

Today, I would take the UM2 over the W2 but would certainly take the W3 over both.

 

I apologize if I confused or mis-informed anyone on W2 verus UM2 from previous posts.


Curious, is the UM2 treble more laid back than the W2 treble? I find the W2 perfectly adequate.

 

And also, what do you like about the W3 better than the UM2?


Edited by Katun - 2/26/12 at 4:30pm
post #78 of 85
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Curious, is the UM2 treble more laid back than the W2 treble? I find the W2 perfectly adequate.

 

And also, what do you like about the W3 better than the UM2?



Well, he said his into "fun" signature now, and the W3 are more fun.

post #79 of 85
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Originally Posted by Spyro View Post

I apologize if I confused or mis-informed anyone on W2 verus UM2 from previous posts.


Hi, no not trying to criticise at all. Sorry if you thought that. Probably going to pull trigger on multi-IEM pairing purchase soon (just because) so wanted more opinions. Your thoughts are definitely appreciated. Keep flip-flopping!

 

post #80 of 85

UM2 treble is definitely more laid back (or rolled off) than W2.

 

W3 has more headroom than either.  I like it because it has a big full sound with a large soundstage yet the treble is crisp and nicely extended.  Yes, a fun sound.  I listen to very little vocal so midrange not super important to me.

 

 


Edited by Spyro - 2/27/12 at 4:36pm
post #81 of 85
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Originally Posted by Spyro View Post

UM2 treble is definitely more laid back (or rolled off) than W2.

 

W3 has more headroom than either.  I like it because it has a big full sound with a large soundstage yet the treble is crisp and nicely extended.  Yes, a fun sound.  I listen to very little vocal so midrange not super important to me.

 

 



Some people find W3s to have no soundstage though confused_face_2.gif

post #82 of 85

That's crazy.  It has the biggest of any IEM listed in my history profile and by a good margin.

 

It's like sitting in a concert hall versus having music being wired directly to your brain.

 

Conversely, UM3X has terrific instrument separation but the overall presentation is very closed-in sounding (almost claustraphobic).

post #83 of 85
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Originally Posted by Spyro View Post

That's crazy.  It has the biggest of any IEM listed in my history profile and by a good margin.

 

It's like sitting in a concert hall versus having music being wired directly to your brain.

 

Conversely, UM3X has terrific instrument separation but the overall presentation is very closed-in sounding (almost claustraphobic).



Really? Wider than the W4s and IE8? The IE8s are known to have the widest soundstage in an IEM. confused_face_2.gif. Yeah, I understand that about the UM3x, really closed soundstage, as if you're standing next to the musician, more for monitoring and stage performing, I guess. 

post #84 of 85

It's fascinating to compare the measurements on Inner Fidelity and Rin's blog.

The W2 literary wins in every aspect. But hey, the W4 is TOTL and has double the drivers so it gets all the attention.

 

I might consider a W2 if the price was just lower.
 

post #85 of 85

W2 does have much better clarity than W4 but not nearly the refinement.

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