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post #16 of 109
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Originally Posted by David1961 View Post

To be honest, I'm happy to wait for the BHSE rather than get a Stax amp, simply because the combination of K-01 + Pico Slim + Shure se535's gives me quite amazing SQ. I've never heard the K-03 so I can't comment about it. Before I got the K-01 my previous source was the Esoteric X-03se and the K-01 is in a completely different league. There are other sources that will probably sound as good if not better than Esoteric, but I don't believe Esoteric can be touched when it comes to build quality. Which ever source you decide to get I hope it gives you the SQ you're looking for.

 

You're probably the only guy on the planet with a K-01 connected to a Yamaha soundbar, lol. I think that would probably make the "bits are bits" guys heads explode.
 

 

post #17 of 109

normal_smile%20.gif I mainly use my Yamaha sound bar with my plasma TV, but I did want to hear what it would be like with the K-01. Since I've been able to use the sound bar with my ipod, the K-01 is only used for headphones. While listening to music with speakers is OK, I'm at my happiest with headphones and when I get the BHSE, I should be a very happy headfier.

post #18 of 109

I have Wilson MAXX (upgraded to 2's) and SR009.

In the same room at the same time.

With a FPB600 driving the Wilsons.

With a T2 driving the SR009.

And a balanced dynahi driving LCD2R2.

 

All are very nice, and i would not give up any one of them.

 

The HD800's don't get much use anymore.

 

post #19 of 109

Hi Kevin,

How does your T2 compare with the BHSE ?

post #20 of 109

The latest batch of BHSE's is absolutely the best production solid state/tube hybrid electrostatic amp available.

And likely to stay the best for some significant period of time. They are pretty close in sound signature.

 

There is a person in Oxford that owns both, try and cop a listen.

post #21 of 109

I have the Pico Slim, so I believe the BHSE will give me all I'm looking for and some, I was just curious about the T2.

post #22 of 109

No one in their right mind would build a diy T2.

 

One person actually did build and owns 2 of them. (not me)

But i'm planning on building a second one with a completely

over the top chassis at some point.

post #23 of 109

I'd never try and build any amp let alone the T2, I've said in some of my post that looks are very important to me in audio equipment and the T2 is some looker. Before I ordered the BHSE I asked Justin whether he'd any plans to build the T2 but he said no. There were three reasons why I ordered the BHSE, it's looks, Justins build quality and a post Birgir wrote about it, but building audio equipment I'll leave it to the experts.

post #24 of 109
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The HD800's don't get much use anymore.

 



The HD800's don't sound good out of the balanced Dynahi?

post #25 of 109

Thats not it, i like the lcd2r2's more.

 

I know that people are going to think something is wrong with me, but

120 volts peak to peak at 600ma seems just a bit over the top for hd800's blink.gif

 


Edited by kevin gilmore - 2/19/12 at 3:57pm
post #26 of 109

I've never really been a fan of Wilson speakers upon many times hearing them over three decades in various iterations and with various systems and rooms.  They never really grabbed my by the soul and immersed me in emotional involvement.  That is until I heard their newer model, the Sasha, recently at RMAF.  I heard it in three different rooms and in every case it had me from the get go.  It was especially great with Dagastinos new amps, but great in all three rooms without exception.  I don't know what they've done differently but that Sasha is a winner for me - and that was coming from a prejudice from so many negative experiences listening to previous Wilsons (so I was entirely prepared for the same from these and I was really shocked by what I heard).  I have always been impressed with Wilson's scaling of music into a really life-size sound stage with dynamic prowess - but through MAXX and Alexandria in several different systems, as well as previous smaller models, none really seemed to get the heart and soul of the music for me.  YMMV, and obviously many others have very different experiences of the same systems I just did not get.  I just have to say those Sashas shine brightly for me.

 

I also got the chance to hear the 009's in two different systems at the recent CANJAM/RMAF, where the Sasha's were making their sirens call from so many rooms.  Comparing headphone listening and speaker listening is a apples to oranges, IMHO.  Without the visceral impact of music on your largest organ (get your mind out of the gutter man, its your skin) headphones are an entirely different  experience from speakers.  If you approach headphones with the expectations of them being a substitute for speaker listening I believe you might be disappointed no matter how good the headphone rig.  I certainly would, even with the 009's at their best.  If you enjoy the headphone experience, the greater sense of intimacy, resolution, and in-your-headspace sound,  and or if you require the privacy afforded by cans, then 009's certainly are at the top of that game, and indeed they do sound wonderful and do not have much in the way of competition (LCD-3's at their best certainly qualify in my book). I far and away prefer listening to speakers and given the choice I'll take speakers every single time.  Again, YMMV. Just offering yet another point of view.

 

 

post #27 of 109

 

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Originally Posted by kevin gilmore View Post

Thats not it, i like the lcd2r2's more.

 

I know that people are going to think something is wrong with me, but

120 volts peak to peak at 600ma seems just a bit over the top for hd800's blink.gif

 

 

Ha, gotcha. I've got a couple of sets of Dynahi boards sitting on my desk and I wanted to make sure there wasn't anything drastically wrong with the Balanced Dynahi-HD800 paring.

post #28 of 109
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Originally Posted by David1961 View Post

I'd never try and build any amp let alone the T2, I've said in some of my post that looks are very important to me in audio equipment and the T2 is some looker. Before I ordered the BHSE I asked Justin whether he'd any plans to build the T2 but he said no. There were three reasons why I ordered the BHSE, it's looks, Justins build quality and a post Birgir wrote about it, but building audio equipment I'll leave it to the experts.


Based on what Birgir has said, a Headamp T2 would probably cost $15K+. Aside from that, the T2 design is OK to build as a DIY, not-for-profit project, but commercially there would be issues as Stax still owns the design unless I'm mistaken.

 

post #29 of 109
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I have always been impressed with Wilson's scaling of music into a really life-size sound stage with dynamic prowess - but through MAXX and Alexandria in several different systems, as well as previous smaller models, none really seemed to get the heart and soul of the music for me.  YMMV, and obviously many others have very different experiences of the same systems I just did not get.  I just have to say those Sashas shine brightly for me.


I've had much the same experience. I've actually heard a Krell FPB/Wilson MAXX system very similar to Dr. Gilmore's (source was a Krell SACD standard, I think) and I absolutely hated it, lol. One of the coldest and most clinical listening experiences I've ever had. The the height and overall scale of the soundstage was OK, better than some Avalons I've heard where the height of the stage was about an inch higher than the top of the speakers, but I didn't find it particularly compelling.

 

In terms of sheer life-like scale, the Rockport Arrakis to my ears is untouchable. Better than the Dynaudio Evidence Master and every other mega speaker I've heard. If I were still interested in speakers, it would be a choice between Rockport and NOLA.

 

post #30 of 109
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Based on what Birgir has said, a Headamp T2 would probably cost $15K+. Aside from that, the T2 design is OK to build as a DIY, not-for-profit project, but commercially there would be issues as Stax still owns the design unless I'm mistaken.

 



As I've said in some of my posts, looks are very important to me in audio equipment, IMO the best looking available electro amp and by some distance is the BHSE, but I feel it still comes second to the DIY T2. If I won the lottery I'd make Justin an offer to build me a T2 he wouldn't want  to refuse, but the most I've won on the lottery is £10.  However this thread is partly about the SR-009's and because I'm rattling on about looks, I thought I might aswell say what I think about them. While they're not bad looking Earspeakers, I think it's headband looks odd, so much so I'm enquiring about having an headband made from a drawing I've done.

 

 


Edited by David1961 - 2/20/12 at 3:20am
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