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Ah, I'm using perfect in a more relative sense like: 'Perfect, now I don't have to read forums till my brain turns to goo and oozes out of my face holes!'

 

It's truly maddening!

 

biggrin.gif  We've all been there mate.  Think of it as a rite of passage, or whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger, or live and learn, or really whatever I can say that will make you not give up the quest so <INSERT INSPIRATIONAL QUOTE OF ENCOURAGEMENT HERE>.

 

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I had basically discounted all the Sennheisers because of the veil. I really liked the clarity of the Superlux, and even the Flats sounded clearer than the PX100-II. Then I looked up the various brands 'signature' sounds and the veil was one of Sennheisers. If the HD238s are only slightly veiled at the top then I might not even notice, not really being an audiophile.

 

I think that the PX 100-II are uniquely different from almost everything else in and around it's range, including other Sennheisers, so I wouldn't be so quick to discount all of them.  The thing that makes this particular rec hard for me is the requirement that it must be supraaural and open/semi-open within that price range.  If you take that away, I'd be inclined to advise that you take a look at the Sennheiser HD 215.  I assure you, that will redefine what you think of Sennheiser.  If you're interested in learning more about it, I have a rather lengthy review on it here.  The price on it tends to fluctuate a bit, and I have seen it come down to within your price range.

 

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The AKG K420s are £39 on Amazon, so slightly easier on the bank balance.. The Grados cost £85, so really out of my price range. I had been considering the MEElectronics HT-21s, as they were cheap and decently reviewed for clarity. I seem to recall Beyerdynamic as being one to look at further as well, based on the brand 'signature', though it was about 3am and I was falling asleep so I could be wrong there...

 

Gotcha.  I haven't heard the Meelec HT-21 so I can't say.  But as for Beyers, my favorite (as well as preferred choice for you) would be WAAYYYY outside your budget.

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Hey akalabeth, welcome to Head-Fi.  smile.gif  Was gonna say sorry about your wallet, but you seem to have some prior experience with that so I'll just skip it.

 

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Greetings,

 

I'm looking for some recommendations for high-end universal fit IEMs, with a budget of about £400 ($600) as an absolute maximum.

 

A few details which may help:

 

  • I own a pair of UE Triple.fi 10's. They sound incredible, but I find them far too uncomfortable for day-to-day use (walking to work, etc).
  • I don't use an amp or plan on using an amp.
  • The style of music I listen to most is electronic music, mainly from the early to mid 90s (classic trance, acid trance, breakbeat, jungle, etc)

 

This is the part where I get all giddy, because it seems you've gone all clairvoyant and described the UE900!  etysmile.gif

 

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  • Ideally looking for pair where the cable doesn't loop over the ear, as I find this extremely uncomfortable, even with less bulky IEMs than the TF10s (I also own some Westone UM1s).

 

This is the part where my giddyness is clubbed to death like a baby seal.  frown.gif

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Yeah, sucks right?  I've never tried them, but I saw them on sale one day and was going to pick them up.  When I asked him about it, that was what he said.  And since he's a basshead, well, that pretty much killed any desire to get it on my part.  But wait, seriously, what's wrong with the S500?

The S500 I worry because I can find only sold in Japan and I'm afraid for customs costs in Italy.

Among Jvc ha-s500 and the Sony XB500, still wins the S500?

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Hey akalabeth, welcome to Head-Fi.  smile.gif  Was gonna say sorry about your wallet, but you seem to have some prior experience with that so I'll just skip it.

 

 

This is the part where I get all giddy, because it seems you've gone all clairvoyant and described the UE900!  etysmile.gif

 

 

This is the part where my giddyness is clubbed to death like a baby seal.  frown.gif

 

Thanks for the reply

 

I'm not completely opposed to getting a pair where the cable loops over the ear. Maybe the bad experiences i've had in the past had more to do with the quality of the cable itself than the positioning.

 

How comfortable are the UE900s compared to the TF10s? And are they a better choice than similarly priced options like the Westone 4r's?

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biggrin.gif  We've all been there mate.  Think of it as a rite of passage, or whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger, or live and learn, or really whatever I can say that will make you not give up the quest so <INSERT INSPIRATIONAL QUOTE OF ENCOURAGEMENT HERE>.

 

 

I think that the PX 100-II are uniquely different from almost everything else in and around it's range, including other Sennheisers, so I wouldn't be so quick to discount all of them.  The thing that makes this particular rec hard for me is the requirement that it must be supraaural and open/semi-open within that price range.  If you take that away, I'd be inclined to advise that you take a look at the Sennheiser HD 215.  I assure you, that will redefine what you think of Sennheiser.  If you're interested in learning more about it, I have a rather lengthy review on it here.  The price on it tends to fluctuate a bit, and I have seen it come down to within your price range.

 

 

Gotcha.  I haven't heard the Meelec HT-21 so I can't say.  But as for Beyers, my favorite (as well as preferred choice for you) would be WAAYYYY outside your budget.

 

Re: PX100-II above - I see.. I have tried a few other Senns but they were all on displays, and all I have that makes noise is my phone (HTC One), which seems to sound completely different than what my PC puts out, even with the same FLACs. None of them really caught my ears, and the PX100 wasn't on display, irritatingly.

 

Closed cans feel a lot like putting my fingers in my ears.. I can then hear everything I'm doing: humming, breathing, farting, whatever - right through my head. It starts to drown out the music. Even the Flats are a bit iffy. I also like to be able to hear just a little of whats going on around me. Maybe I'm working at cross purposes and what I really want is very closed desk speakers smile.gif Maybe I'm just really used to earbuds and I need to get over it!

 

I suppose closed wouldn't be bad, but I'd still prefer on-ear cans, assuming I can still get clarity and soundstage. When I was a kid my neighbor had a band and we'd sit in the basement while they all practiced some classic rock tune - the Superlux reminded me of that, like I was with the band in the neighbor's basement again, just listening to the music as it happened.

 

I read a bit of your HD215 review, which I enjoyed.. but I do think the circumaural design would put me off. The Superlux were just so uncomfortable and I think they'd isolate me too much from the rest of the house. I'm here envisioning the mailman knocking, or the phone ringing.. that kind of thing.

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Yeah, sucks right?  I've never tried them, but I saw them on sale one day and was going to pick them up.  When I asked him about it, that was what he said.  And since he's a basshead, well, that pretty much killed any desire to get it on my part.  But wait, seriously, what's wrong with the S500?

 

The S500 I worry because I can find only sold in Japan and I'm afraid for customs costs in Italy.

Among Jvc ha-s500 and the Sony XB500, still wins the S500?

 

Still hard for me to say - even with my friends' impressions - as I still haven't heard the S500.  But if this helps any, I do have a bit of experience with my XB500.  I don't like it.

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Hey akalabeth, welcome to Head-Fi.  smile.gif  Was gonna say sorry about your wallet, but you seem to have some prior experience with that so I'll just skip it.

 

This is the part where I get all giddy, because it seems you've gone all clairvoyant and described the UE900!  etysmile.gif

 

This is the part where my giddyness is clubbed to death like a baby seal.  frown.gif

 

Thanks for the reply

 

I'm not completely opposed to getting a pair where the cable loops over the ear. Maybe the bad experiences i've had in the past had more to do with the quality of the cable itself than the positioning.

 

How comfortable are the UE900s compared to the TF10s? And are they a better choice than similarly priced options like the Westone 4r's?

 

Of course you're welcome.  smile.gif  I think that comfort in terms of over-ear-wear is all about the materials used.  Hard cables (I would imagine) can be quite irritating.

 

As for the UE900, I have absolutely no idea.  The USPS is currently in possession of my UE900.  Typically, they would be here by now, but today is a postal holiday.

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Closed cans feel a lot like putting my fingers in my ears.. I can then hear everything I'm doing: humming, breathing, farting, whatever - right through my head. It starts to drown out the music.  I also like to be able to hear just a little of whats going on around me.  I'm here envisioning the mailman knocking, or the phone ringing.. that kind of thing.

 

Hmm, okay, not sealed then.  Well I don't know about leakage (which I would assume corresponds roughly to isolation), but I can tell you one interesting thing about my K422.  AKG claims that they are semi-open.  I can tell you that they are CLEARLY LYING!  Um, "semi" my ass.  I can hear everything on the outside, everything!  In your case, I'm guessing that this is a good thing?

 

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I read a bit of your HD215 review

 

LOL, I think that's as far as people ever get.  I've been told that it's a bit on the long side.

post #4944 of 5343
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Thanks for the reply

 

I'm not completely opposed to getting a pair where the cable loops over the ear. Maybe the bad experiences i've had in the past had more to do with the quality of the cable itself than the positioning.

 

How comfortable are the UE900s compared to the TF10s? And are they a better choice than similarly priced options like the Westone 4r's?

UE900s are much more comfortable than TF10. They are designed much smarter. 4rs are good if you are looking for a balanced and warm sound. But there isn't really anything else that I'll call "better" because most top iems have similar technical capabilities, but all of them have a different tuning.

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Hmm, okay, not sealed then.  Well I don't know about leakage (which I would assume corresponds roughly to isolation), but I can tell you one interesting thing about my K422.  AKG claims that they are semi-open.  I can tell you that they are CLEARLY LYING!  Um, "semi" my ass.  I can hear everything on the outside, everything!  In your case, I'm guessing that this is a good thing?

 

 

LOL, I think that's as far as people ever get.  I've been told that it's a bit on the long side.

 

Heh, well I got to the photo with the 1/4 inch jack in the ear and remembered I wasn't looking for circumaural headphones, so decided to skim the rest. Otherwise, I'd have read the whole thing. 

 

It won't matter if the sound leaks out at all as there won't be anyone around for it to annoy, except maybe the mailman, but yeah the AKGs sound good..

 

So, I have two good leads in the Sennheiser HD238 and the AKG K420. Unfortunately, it's now well past midnight, so researching those will have to wait till tomorrow, sadly.

 

Thanks again for your time! If anything else comes to mind, please let me know happy_face1.gif

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Is the ba200 more clear/detailed than than the hf5? Which has better overall SQ? I was thinking about upgrading from my hf5.
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Warren you recommended me the Dunu Tai Chi and im close to pulling the trigger on them, they seem very interesting but i want to make the absolute best decision for my needs. Is there any other good IEMs with isolation, good bass, and good build quality for under $150.

 

 

Anyone else feel free to chime in, Thanks a bunch.
 

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Hi, I currently own the Logitech Ultimate Ears 500 and am wondering if I should upgrade

to the Logitech Ultimate Ears 700. How much better are the 700 over the 500. Is it 

worth the money?

 

Thanks

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Thanks for the reply

 

I'm not completely opposed to getting a pair where the cable loops over the ear. Maybe the bad experiences i've had in the past had more to do with the quality of the cable itself than the positioning.

 

How comfortable are the UE900s compared to the TF10s? And are they a better choice than similarly priced options like the Westone 4r's?

 

UE900s are much more comfortable than TF10. They are designed much smarter. 4rs are good if you are looking for a balanced and warm sound. But there isn't really anything else that I'll call "better" because most top iems have similar technical capabilities, but all of them have a different tuning.

 

Well, there ya go!  smile.gif  I should know in a day or two.  Which reminds me, time to go track that package...

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Hmm, okay, not sealed then.  Well I don't know about leakage (which I would assume corresponds roughly to isolation), but I can tell you one interesting thing about my K422.  AKG claims that they are semi-open.  I can tell you that they are CLEARLY LYING!  Um, "semi" my ass.  I can hear everything on the outside, everything!  In your case, I'm guessing that this is a good thing?

 

LOL, I think that's as far as people ever get.  I've been told that it's a bit on the long side.

 

Heh, well I got to the photo with the 1/4 inch jack in the ear and remembered I wasn't looking for circumaural headphones, so decided to skim the rest. Otherwise, I'd have read the whole thing. 

 

It won't matter if the sound leaks out at all as there won't be anyone around for it to annoy, except maybe the mailman, but yeah the AKGs sound good..

 

So, I have two good leads in the Sennheiser HD238 and the AKG K420. Unfortunately, it's now well past midnight, so researching those will have to wait till tomorrow, sadly.

 

Thanks again for your time! If anything else comes to mind, please let me know happy_face1.gif

 

Okay, well then the two above should be decent choices for now.  Of course, please look up some more detailed reviews of those when you get a chance, that should help you make your decision.

 

Also, one quick thing.  To my eyes, it appears that the K420 and K422 are the exact same unit, just with different pads.  I would imagine that the pads on the K422 are more comfortable for long term wear.  So there might be a chance for you to order K422 replacement pads from AKG if you like... assuming you get that one.

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