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Originally Posted by PakoBoy View Post

there are no fake gr07's

...how do you know?

post #1487 of 5343
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Originally Posted by TwinQY View Post

Aren't the M50s above budget though? They're nice, not as fast as I'd like for the price, and the timbre seems to be a bit off, but still nice. I've had the SRH840 for more than a year before I sold them, trust me when I say they aren't basshead phones in the slightest. Not that these two have bad bass, far from it, just maybe not to the levels quantity wise that you seem to want. My CAL!s come in tomorrow, but from what I've seen and heard during my last stint with them, the build lasts fine. Very comfortable as well. 

It's 105 bucks on amazon atm so I guess I can exceed my budget by a small amount. I guess I'll stick with xb500s then.

 

Just a last resort, would an amp like fiio e6 help my predicament at all? I already use a built in equalizer on my laptop so I'm not sure if it would help at all.

post #1488 of 5343
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Originally Posted by bobjohnson201 View Post

...how do you know?

Don't think there's been any reports of fake GR07s yet. Not to say that they don't exist, there's always an possibility, but it seems unlikely to find an operations faking a rather esoteric product from a rather lesser known company (compared to the likes of Senn, Sony). 

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It's 105 bucks on amazon atm so I guess I can exceed my budget by a small amount. I guess I'll stick with xb500s then.

 

Just a last resort, would an amp like fiio e6 help my predicament at all? I already use a built in equalizer on my laptop so I'm not sure if it would help at all.

 

The XB500 are already so bassy, the E6 would just be overkill really. Unless you don't mind brain cells leaking out. People have generally reported good experiences with EQing the XBx00.

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hey TwinQy thanks for the reply.  I don't know if you saw my post earlier but I am considering the following headphones:

 

 

Monster Turbine Pro Copper

Klipsch Image X10i

Westone W2

Westone UM2

Denon ah-c250

sennheiser ie60

Vsonic Gr07

Ultimate Ears TF10 (would I have to worry about fakes with these?)

 

I want to use it to listen to mostly melodic hard rock, alternative, and electronic/trance music.  I am looking for something that gives a little extra bass (but not excessive) but still gives well defined details in the mids and highs.  Would prefer to purchase from either best buy or amazon since I have gift cards, and would like to keep it around the $200-$300 range.  Am open to other suggestions as well.  Also, in general how am i supposed to know if i get a fake set of headphones?  are there obvious signs or..?

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Originally Posted by bobjohnson201 View Post

hey TwinQy thanks for the reply.  I don't know if you saw my post earlier but I am considering the following headphones:

 

 

Monster Turbine Pro Copper

Klipsch Image X10i

Westone W2

Westone UM2

Denon ah-c250

sennheiser ie60

Vsonic Gr07

Ultimate Ears TF10 (would I have to worry about fakes with these?)

 

I want to use it to listen to mostly melodic hard rock, alternative, and electronic/trance music.  I am looking for something that gives a little extra bass (but not excessive) but still gives well defined details in the mids and highs.  Would prefer to purchase from either best buy or amazon since I have gift cards, and would like to keep it around the $200-$300 range.  Am open to other suggestions as well.  Also, in general how am i supposed to know if i get a fake set of headphones?  are there obvious signs or..?

 

These brands are usually too niche to encounter too many fakes (even the UE, although I've heard stuff). In case you want to make sure, just buy from reputable dealers. If the look of the box and IEMs don't exactly match pics on reviews (make sure if there are any different revisions/pre-production units if they don't).

 

Regarding the IEMs, sounds like the W2 and the GR07. Both are slightly warm, with a slight mid-bass tilt (not at all excessive, sometimes not that noticeable even). The W2 has liquid, smooth, sweet mids, and a laid-back but clear treble. Sounds almost like a leaner, less warm mini-W4. The GR07 have good detail throughout. I haven't heard the UM2, but from what people have been saying, they might be worth looking into based on your criteria. 

post #1492 of 5343
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Originally Posted by TwinQY View Post

 

The XB500 are already so bassy, the E6 would just be overkill really. Unless you don't mind brain cells leaking out. People have generally reported good experiences with EQing the XBx00.

Sorry I meant with the sennheisers HD 439 I currently own. (forgot to mention that part)

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Sorry I meant with the sennheisers HD 439 I currently own. (forgot to mention that part)

Hmm, I like the E5 with the HD428 modded already, so I'd imagine the HD439 + E6 combo to be even better!

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Originally Posted by TwinQY View Post

 

These brands are usually too niche to encounter too many fakes (even the UE, although I've heard stuff). In case you want to make sure, just buy from reputable dealers. If the look of the box and IEMs don't exactly match pics on reviews (make sure if there are any different revisions/pre-production units if they don't).

 

Regarding the IEMs, sounds like the W2 and the GR07. Both are slightly warm, with a slight mid-bass tilt (not at all excessive, sometimes not that noticeable even). The W2 has liquid, smooth, sweet mids, and a laid-back but clear treble. Sounds almost like a leaner, less warm mini-W4. The GR07 have good detail throughout. I haven't heard the UM2, but from what people have been saying, they might be worth looking into based on your criteria. 

Thanks for the reply.  So would you say that the W2 and the Gr07 sound better overall than the monster coppers and the klipsch x10i?  What do you think would be better, the w2 or the gr07?  

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Hey y'all.  What a fabulous resource you guys all are!  After some research and agonizing, I think I've finally decided to splurge on the W4s.  I may get the one with the removable cable.  Does this change the sound at all or just give you the option to get a new cable cheaper when it eventually breaks?  Is there a way with this one to attach an iphone answering device?  (forgive my ignorance here)  Also does the replaceable cable version add to the length of cable?

 

I listen to lots of kinds of music (jazz, pop, Broadway, country, classical) - primarily vocal jazz.

 

I am very short, so a short cable is best.

 

Thanks!!
 

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Thanks for the reply.  So would you say that the W2 and the Gr07 sound better overall than the monster coppers and the klipsch x10i?  What do you think would be better, the w2 or the gr07?  

Not better than the MTPC or the X10, just less bassy. The MTPC border on excessive (quantity-wise, it's probably already past that, but the quantity of mids balance it out enough) as do the X10. Both are still good IEMs. The choice between the W2 and GR07 come down to these things: do you want the leaner, but still slightly warm yet balanced signature of the W2 that aims not to offend and be as musical as possible without being too coloured, or do you want the full(er)-bodied sort of balance that the GR07 provides. They are both pretty much even in terms of technical proficiency.

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Originally Posted by TwinQY View Post

Hmm, I like the E5 with the HD428 modded already, so I'd imagine the HD439 + E6 combo to be even better!

I meant whether if the amp would affect anything if a built in EQ like beats audio was already functioning. I dunno if it would make any difference

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Hi!

I'm currently looking for set of closed cans for everyday portable use, with big emphasis on SQ and affordability. At home I have a pair of HD650s, which I love to death, but unfortunately, after listening to them, most of my other headphones (ATH-FC700, Philips SHL9500, etc) no longer sound so good... I currently have the Shure SE210 and Koss PortaPro for portable use, both of which sound great to me but are functionally impractical - I find IEMS to be a pain to put in, take out, place in carry case, etc, and the PortaPro is completely open so on a busy street all I hear is bass. So my question is, where can I find a closed, decently isolating HD650 under $100???.... Kidding. But does anything come close?

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Originally Posted by Vashti View Post

Hey y'all.  What a fabulous resource you guys all are!  After some research and agonizing, I think I've finally decided to splurge on the W4s.  I may get the one with the removable cable.  Does this change the sound at all or just give you the option to get a new cable cheaper when it eventually breaks?  Is there a way with this one to attach an iphone answering device?  (forgive my ignorance here)  Also does the replaceable cable version add to the length of cable?

 

I listen to lots of kinds of music (jazz, pop, Broadway, country, classical) - primarily vocal jazz.

 

I am very short, so a short cable is best.

 

Thanks!!
 

 

Best time to splurge on the W4s IMO, what with the 30% off coupon. I didn't hear any difference between the W4 and W4R. I think the W4R lettering looks clunky, and the memory wire to be annoying unless you trim a bit off. People claim soldered cables will last a bit longer than removable cables, but once it's dead, it's dead Jim. You could always modify them later to accept removable cables (BTG Audio does this, even the front pages shows off a modded W4). The cable length is the same on both. No way to attach a mic unless you get the Epic Mic from Westone (been out of stock for a long time), don't know of any other mic cables that attach on them. Again, you could get the W4, ask for BTG to mod them to accept UE connections, then get one of the many mic cable choices for those. Price would add up to be about the same in the end. 

 

They sound very good with Jazz. The sound sig complements them perfectly. They do some of the most stunning female vocals out of all of the IEMs I've tried. 

 

The cable is about 1.2m. To put some perspective, I'm barely under 5"10, and I still have excess cable hanging out of my pocket at times. Might be because of my short upper body though tongue.gif. You might want to roll them up a bit when using them. Don't roll them around the cell phone/DAP/what have you, seriously damaging to the cable long-term.

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Originally Posted by tartufo View Post

Hi!

I'm currently looking for set of closed cans for everyday portable use, with big emphasis on SQ and affordability. At home I have a pair of HD650s, which I love to death, but unfortunately, after listening to them, most of my other headphones (ATH-FC700, Philips SHL9500, etc) no longer sound so good... I currently have the Shure SE210 and Koss PortaPro for portable use, both of which sound great to me but are functionally impractical - I find IEMS to be a pain to put in, take out, place in carry case, etc, and the PortaPro is completely open so on a busy street all I hear is bass. So my question is, where can I find a closed, decently isolating HD650 under $100???.... Kidding. But does anything come close?

 

...CALs? Warm, with a laid back top. Not as portable as the M-80 (similar sig), but that's over budget. 

 

I'm lost. Maybe Doc or some others can think of some more options.

 

Oh, yeah, SRH440/840! A bit rolled off, but sort of similar sounding, I guess.

 

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I meant whether if the amp would affect anything if a built in EQ like beats audio was already functioning. I dunno if it would make any difference

No reason why a hardware component like an amp should affect anything on the software level like that...okay, there are exceptions (not talking about amps though, other hardware), but I'm too sleepy to think of any right now. Short answer, no.

 

The E5/6 line isn't that great of an amp amp-wise. People mainly use it for its very good hardware EQ. 

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