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post #7381 of 7954
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Originally Posted by Paul Meakin View Post
 

 

They're a pretty big step-up in my opinion; I own both and no longer use the 650s. I did give them another try last week and they sound slow and somewhat muddy by comparison.


Hmm... I'll ask the Fostex dealer here if they have TH900s in stock and if I can audition them. I gotta listen with them first before burning any money.

 

By the way I don't like classical music or old school jazz much. I enjoy modern jazz like George Benson though. I mostly listen to rock (no metal or heavy stuff though), pop, electronic (trance, house, other). Thus, I know HD800s are not for me. They are great for classical music and stuff not so much for genres I like where soundstage and imaging are less important. I hope TH900s are more fun than HD800, a lot more!


Edited by obsidyen - 6/28/14 at 3:18pm
post #7382 of 7954
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Hmm... I'll ask the Fostex dealer here if they have TH900s in stock and if I can audition them. I gotta listen with them first before burning any money.

 

Just make sure you bring your chord hugo along when you demo them. You're going to want to be using your best gear to hear what they can offer.

post #7383 of 7954
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Originally Posted by TWerk View Post
 

 

Just make sure you bring your chord hugo along when you demo them. You're going to want to be using your best gear to hear what they can offer.

 

I will. It's really small anyway. :)

post #7384 of 7954
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Originally Posted by obsidyen View Post
 


Hmm... I'll ask the Fostex dealer here if they have TH900s in stock and if I can audition them. I gotta listen with them first before burning any money.

 

By the way I don't like classical music or old school jazz much. I enjoy modern jazz like George Benson though. I mostly listen to rock (no metal or heavy stuff though), pop, electronic (trance, house, other). Thus, I know HD800s are not for me. They are great for classical music and stuff not so much for genres I like where soundstage and imaging are less important. I hope TH900s are more fun than HD800, a lot more!

the th900 are more fun than the hd800, but are still reference cans. they are detailed, have a nice soundstage, and though i don't think they have boomy bass as some suggest, the bass can go really deep if the recordings have them.

 

a more "fun" can for the type of music you listen to might be the D7000. i don't find them to be similar to the th900 at all. they are warmer, have more of the boomy bass, and i find myself listening to my pair 80% of the time. and i have the th900 and hd800 as well. 

post #7385 of 7954

Yes but they are discontinued and impossible to find new ones where I live. So they're a no go. I haven't heard very good things about new Denon headphones (D7100 etc.). So I'll try the Fostex for now, see how they sound.

post #7386 of 7954
You can get the "fun" D7000 bass by EQ'ing up the subbass on the TH900, and reducing the spike centred around 7k to make the bass sound more pronounced relative to the treble. The TH900 bass decays much quicker and has a lot less distortion in the lowest bass, so sounds a lot more exhilarating for fast paced subbass heavy music. I'm not sure why D7000s are regarded so highly now tbh, their spiky treble is frankly intolerable at louder volumes, while the TH900's are just about tolerable while also having more detail & air.
post #7387 of 7954

I found the treble on my D7000s intolerable at any volume on most tracks.

post #7388 of 7954
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I found the treble on my D7000s intolerable at any volume on most tracks.

Yape that is true. Espcially any female vocal for me. Only thing that misses me is the mid.
post #7389 of 7954
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Originally Posted by obsidyen View Post
 


Hmm... I'll ask the Fostex dealer here if they have TH900s in stock and if I can audition them. I gotta listen with them first before burning any money.

 

By the way I don't like classical music or old school jazz much. I enjoy modern jazz like George Benson though. I mostly listen to rock (no metal or heavy stuff though), pop, electronic (trance, house, other). Thus, I know HD800s are not for me. They are great for classical music and stuff not so much for genres I like where soundstage and imaging are less important. I hope TH900s are more fun than HD800, a lot more!

 

I found HD800s really boring in a direct comparison, so there should be no issue there regarding the TH900s. I actually bought them because they were much better with energetic types of music, e.g. rock, electric blues, faster paced jazz. I found the HD650s fine with slower paced music but too slow with the faster styles, which is what prompted me to change.

 

You might also like Stax as they're also quick (I have Lambda 404s), but I find the TH900s to be slightly more forgiving on poor recordings.

 

I'd always encourage listening before purchase, especially to speakers of any type as they're probably the most personal of any hi-fi component.

post #7390 of 7954
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Originally Posted by kugino View Post
 

the th900 are more fun than the hd800, but are still reference cans. they are detailed, have a nice soundstage, and though i don't think they have boomy bass as some suggest, the bass can go really deep if the recordings have them.

 

I agree re. boomy bass, which makes me suspect that the TH900s are just revealing what is happening upstream.

 

Mine are driven from a Naim DAC-V1, and I'd say that tight, fast bass is a Naim characteristic anyway.

post #7391 of 7954
Just a reply on my opinion of the th900 bass. I have lots of genres with deep sub bass, not trance, but more down tempo, or thievery corporation like, budah beats etc... The th900 bass is perfect for me for as its responsive, gutterel, and spine tingling. Sorry to compare it to fun, but fun in an artificial way was beats by dre detox. That took the thump to a whole new level that Kind of made me think this is not real. I now have those as my cans for my pearl epro live drum kit and they are perfect for that. Nothing but toms, kick drums etc....
I was desperate to really hear what the sound is exactly like, with a bass emphisis or ability to respond to that, without excessive ear bleeding mids. The th900 is acceptable in that area as well,the mids are not recessed to much, listen to Archie shepp sax in 79 or 81 and that piercing closeness is very very real. These are fun to me....
Edited by Whazzzup - 6/29/14 at 5:06am
post #7392 of 7954
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Originally Posted by Paul Meakin View Post
 

 

I found HD800s really boring in a direct comparison, so there should be no issue there regarding the TH900s. I actually bought them because they were much better with energetic types of music, e.g. rock, electric blues, faster paced jazz. I found the HD650s fine with slower paced music but too slow with the faster styles, which is what prompted me to change.

 

You might also like Stax as they're also quick (I have Lambda 404s), but I find the TH900s to be slightly more forgiving on poor recordings.

 

I'd always encourage listening before purchase, especially to speakers of any type as they're probably the most personal of any hi-fi component.

+1. Exactly why I love the 900. As for the Stax, well, I have the 007mk1 so no complaints there as well.

post #7393 of 7954

As far as poor recordings go, I just did a quick A/B of a Dave Edmunds song between the XC and the 900. That recording is not the best and sounds bass thin on the XC (and thinner on the LCD 3). But the 900 is able to deliver a passable low-end response that makes the song more tolerable.

post #7394 of 7954
I'm also a bassy electronica type guy. Not trance, but more downtempo, deep-house or dub techno, or jazzy instrumental hip-hop. Personally, I prefer the TH series cans with a darker amp. That way I get a decent amount of boomy wetness with bassy music without any of the stridency from brighter tracks. Possibly an acquired taste - neutrality lovers would consider it too coloured - but that's how I roll.
post #7395 of 7954
Just a quick comment on what Twerk has stated.

As someone who has been on the audiophile journey for quite some time (over 40 years) I can state emphatically that while the journey is fun, it can be expensive and often comes at the expense of the music. By this I mean that it is so easy to get caught up chasing the next best thing in terms of equipment to achieve a specific attribute of music reproduction that you miss the real goal which in my opinion should be enjoyment of the music as a whole.

If I may, I'll give you the same advice I gave to my kids who are about your age. Your musical tastes and appreciation for certain aspects of music reproduction will change. What sounds like fun to you now might sound different in the future. This is why using equipment that most faithfully reproduces all aspects of the musical performance is so important. As your tastes change you will want to stick with equipment that can easily scale to take advantage of improvements in the technology. In the end you will save a LOT of money going this route. Despite what manufacturers would have us believe, the best equipment from years ago still compete with the state of the art today. Buying the best you can afford and building around it is as true today as it has always been. It is really scary how many people change equipment before realizing the full potential of what they already have.

The th900 is not perfect, but is still a flagship can that can do a lot of things better than many others. If you had said you hated the sound of the the modded unit then I would not be writing this, however what I think you are saying is that the increase in performance over what you currently have is not worth it to you at this time. In this context, it may be better for you to stick with the more refined component and build around it instead. The Lawton modded th900 scales better than just about any other can I have owned with the possible exception of the hd800 which is a less flexible can. I was the first to have the mod done purely out of curiosity and in fact gave my impressions to Oregonian before he had his set modded. I know how long Lawton took to get the tuning right and what it can do with a really good source and amp. Even so I think I am yet to tap its full potential.

By all means sell it if it does not make sense for you now, but just wanted to offer another point of view.

Good luck in your journey!
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