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post #7321 of 7557
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After a few days with both my sets of 900's, I don't think the mod changed anything but the bass. It's indeed tighter and I find Lawtons earcups to be more comfortable and I get a better fit as well. My ears use to touch the inside of the pad but lawtons pads fit perfect. I don't think I could change out the earcups as I really love the stock 900 cups but to anyone that does, all the power to them!

 

The mod IMO didn't make any drastic changes, just cleaned up the bass at higher volumes. i can now play dub or any bass heavy music at the same level as before without any issues at all.

 

That's what Oregonian basically said. The change from stock to D7000 with Lawton mods was much greater than the change he heard for the Fostex 900, since it is such a great starting point. The tighter bass seems to be the main difference you are hearing. Thank you for the observations, there are few on here other than you with the ability to try them both! 

 

Personally, if my fostex didn't have the mod, I wouldn't have gotten it done, but since I was able to get one with the dampening already done, I figured it's just an extra perk.


Edited by TWerk - 6/24/14 at 10:33pm
post #7322 of 7557
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Once you're inside, it really only takes a few minutes.

 

 

Originally Posted by AppleheadMay View Post
 

 

This sounds so wong ... :wink_face:

 

 

 

Seriously?  Have you seen her beautiful full red cups?

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Seriously?  Have you seen her beautiful full red cups?

 

I gotta admit, nice save mate!  :wink_face:

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Originally Posted by AppleheadMay View Post
 

 

 

Gear I still consider, in order of importance:

 

Fostex HP-A8 (only gripes: no second/balanced rear output, no 384Khz, no DSD128)

TEAC UD-501 + HA-501 combo (not sure what to think of this ...)

Oppo HA-1 (don't know the brand and less HP output than the HP-A8)

Resonnesence Labs Invicta (probably more suited for Senns, Audeze and AKG?)

Meridian Prime (quality of the headamp?)

 

 

 

I prefer my sound euphonic rather than analytic and would hate exaggerated treble. From what I read the HP-A8 smoothes the TH-900 out further.

I am looking for an amp for the TH-900 and likewise cans only. Closed, dynamic, low impedance. Think Denon and AT woodies.

Can be amp/dac combo or separates. Advice is really welcome.

 

No seriously, any feedback on the above amps (slash less important IMO dacs) folks? 

I'm literally about to pull the trigger on the Fostex HP-A8, major gripe not having a second output, preferably XLR in order to have an SE output for a future tube amp as well as a balanced speaker amp output.

Some of the others do have that but they might dissapoint me on the built in SS HP-amp, being or not being ideal for closed low impedance dynamic phones and having the rather euphonic and certainly not analytic sound.

post #7325 of 7557
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Originally Posted by AppleheadMay View Post

No seriously, any feedback on the above amps (slash less important IMO dacs) folks? 
I'm literally about to pull the trigger on the Fostex HP-A8, major gripe not having a second output, preferably XLR in order to have an SE output for a future tube amp as well as a balanced speaker amp output.
Some of the others do have that but they might dissapoint me on the built in SS HP-amp, being or not being ideal for closed low impedance dynamic phones and having the rather euphonic and certainly not analytic sound.

Would love to hear some opinions too. I'm between HPA-A8 and Chord Hugo, when I eventually pull the trigger on TH900's.
post #7326 of 7557
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Originally Posted by AppleheadMay View Post

No seriously, any feedback on the above amps (slash less important IMO dacs) folks? 
I'm literally about to pull the trigger on the Fostex HP-A8, major gripe not having a second output, preferably XLR in order to have an SE output for a future tube amp as well as a balanced speaker amp output.
Some of the others do have that but they might dissapoint me on the built in SS HP-amp, being or not being ideal for closed low impedance dynamic phones and having the rather euphonic and certainly not analytic sound.

Would love to hear some opinions too. I'm between HPA-A8 and Chord Hugo, when I eventually pull the trigger on TH900's.

You guys realize the hpa8 is a desktop dac amp not a portable battery type of the chord Hugo. I only have the a8 and technically of course its far more serious than the Hugo. Th900 isn't the walk around kind of cans so a8 wins and belly up your wallet. But I will leave further confusion to someone who feels different and has heard the chord.
post #7327 of 7557
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You guys realize the hpa8 is a desktop dac amp not a portable battery type of the chord Hugo. I only have the a8 and technically of course its far more serious than the Hugo. Th900 isn't the walk around kind of cans so a8 wins and belly up your wallet. But I will leave further confusion to someone who feels different and has heard the chord.

 

Totally agree with you but just to be clear I only asked about desktop amps, no portables.

What's your impression on the amp part of the HP-A8 with the TH-900? Does it go in the direction of the sound signature I'm after?

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Apple yes but I'm not sure what signature you are after. Start with th900 you better be a bass head with the need to have quality signature that doesn't push the mids and make your ears bleed after an hour of listening. These are for a lack of better description the best all around cans there are, presumptuous but all around infers not a specialty nich can. I will repost from the what powers th900 from my reply about this on that thread, sorry folks, and obviously this is just my opinion, and a non I have listened to many pairings one but yes the a8 is special with the th900, good 3d.


Originally Posted by mariowar

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Originally Posted by Whazzzup

I like the a8 lots but looks like there is a dac amp for every listener so it is an opinion.


How would you describe the synergy between the A8 and the TH900s in jazz and rock?

I have previously read that the A8 sound is mellow.

Does this amp/DAC makes justice to the the spectacular low end performance of the TH900s ?

The a8 to me provides everything the th900 needs and the 3d imaging super low end responsive base is best heard through electronic and down tempo genres with a fantastic representation of jazz and blues accross the full spectrum. Est gives me goose bumps, Archie shepp and his sax in the blues genre is so close and personal it almost hurts but it doesn't. Vocals for lorde makes you weep but once again a genre that isnt necessarily out there commercially, down tempo and electronic gives your spine a shake with that low end torque of the a8 and th900 pairing. My least favourite, yet totally acceptable is rock genre. Maybe its the compression of the classics, queen aside, or more palatable are newer rock bands say jets overhead etc, that give the system its justice. I'm tickled pink by the pair, but I am a newbie in the sense there are plenty of posters who have many hours testing all kinds of pairings. For me it was more dumb luck, I chose th900 cause of research and the genre of music I listened too, the a8 because of its input options and tech specs and being made by fostex, I figured their flagship would be a great match for there flagship, couple that with my oyaide continental 5s usb and I turned Japanese as it were.
Hope this helps somewhat.
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I loved the HP-A8's DAC. It had that typical wetness and weight you get in most good AKM implementations, without being too flowery. The amp section was a bit too ordinary for my liking, however. I preferred using the HP-A8 as a DAC alone, partnering it with my Burson. It's almost as if the HP-A8's amp section was trying to neuter the TH-900's natural character. Some people might like that type of presentation, especially if they think the TH-900 is too U-shaped.

Best compliment I can give the HP-A8 (DAC & Amp combined) is that it sounds like a budget Luxman in many ways. As a single unit, I did prefer the HP-A8 to the Benchmark HGC, Lavry DA11 and Mytek Stereo, bit I'd still rather have it's DAC output piped out to a dedicated desktop amp.
Edited by kurochin - 6/26/14 at 4:47am
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I'm not really after portable properties of Hugo either, but the general concensus in Chord thread is that Hugo is a giant killer, rivalling complete desktop rigs multiple times its price. Also smaller footprint is a plus.
I just ordered Asgard 2 to replace my Vali, and depending on my financial situation I might order TH900's next year (or buy them on my trip to Japan.) After that I'll begin to look for DAC/amp to reach my end game setup.
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I'm not really after portable properties of Hugo either, but the general concensus in Chord thread is that Hugo is a giant killer, rivalling complete desktop rigs multiple times its price. Also smaller footprint is a plus.
I just ordered Asgard 2 to replace my Vali, and depending on my financial situation I might order TH900's next year (or buy them on my trip to Japan.) After that I'll begin to look for DAC/amp to reach my end game setup.

Instead of listening to third party interpretations on perceptions of something so personal and negligible variant, I'd suggest when you are about, listen to them.
post #7332 of 7557
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Originally Posted by Whazzzup View Post

Apple yes but I'm not sure what signature you are after. Start with th900 you better be a bass head with the need to have quality signature that doesn't push the mids and make your ears bleed after an hour of listening. These are for a lack of better description the best all around cans there are, presumptuous but all around infers not a specialty nich can. I will repost from the what powers th900 from my reply about this on that thread, sorry folks, and obviously this is just my opinion, and a non I have listened to many pairings one but yes the a8 is special with the th900, good 3d.


Originally Posted by mariowar

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Originally Posted by Whazzzup

I like the a8 lots but looks like there is a dac amp for every listener so it is an opinion.


How would you describe the synergy between the A8 and the TH900s in jazz and rock?

I have previously read that the A8 sound is mellow.

Does this amp/DAC makes justice to the the spectacular low end performance of the TH900s ?

The a8 to me provides everything the th900 needs and the 3d imaging super low end responsive base is best heard through electronic and down tempo genres with a fantastic representation of jazz and blues accross the full spectrum. Est gives me goose bumps, Archie shepp and his sax in the blues genre is so close and personal it almost hurts but it doesn't. Vocals for lorde makes you weep but once again a genre that isnt necessarily out there commercially, down tempo and electronic gives your spine a shake with that low end torque of the a8 and th900 pairing. My least favourite, yet totally acceptable is rock genre. Maybe its the compression of the classics, queen aside, or more palatable are newer rock bands say jets overhead etc, that give the system its justice. I'm tickled pink by the pair, but I am a newbie in the sense there are plenty of posters who have many hours testing all kinds of pairings. For me it was more dumb luck, I chose th900 cause of research and the genre of music I listened too, the a8 because of its input options and tech specs and being made by fostex, I figured their flagship would be a great match for there flagship, couple that with my oyaide continental 5s usb and I turned Japanese as it were.
Hope this helps somewhat.

 

Wel my signature is rather euphonic, not neutral and certainly not analytical. Think low impedance dynamics like AT woodies, D7000 and the TH-900.

I already have the TH-900 by the way and had a D7000, two pairs LA7000, W5000, W3000ANV, L3000, W1000X. That's how much I like these cans.

Indeed, the TH-900 as well as the D7000 are allround cans, but they never sound sterile and have a signature I like.

The AT-s on the other hand are very genre specific, some more than others. I loved the W3000ANV with vocals, the L3000 with hardrock. I like how euphonic these sound.

Thanks for reposting your impressions on the A8, they make think in favor of the A8.

 

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I loved the HP-A8's DAC. It had that typical wetness and weight you get in most good AKM implementations, without being too flowery. The amp section was a bit too ordinary for my liking, however. I preferred using the HP-A8 as a DAC alone, partnering it with my Burson. It's almost as if the HP-A8's amp section was trying to neuter the TH-900's natural character. Some people might like that type of presentation, especially if they think the TH-900 is too U-shaped.

Best compliment I can give the HP-A8 (DAC & Amp combined) is that it sounds like a budget Luxman in many ways. As a single unit, I did prefer the HP-A8 to the Benchmark HGC, Lavry DA11 and Mytek Stereo, bit I'd still rather have it's DAC output piped out to a dedicated desktop amp.

 

Sounds good except for the part where you say it tries to neuter the TH-900.

Indeed, I would love to use the A8 as a Dac, as a SS amp and use it's outputs for a second (tube) amp as well.

My only problem sith that and my only gripe with the A8 is that it only has one set of outputs and I need to power a speaker amp with those.

So, for me, the A8's amp section needs to be good and needs to be what I like, complement the TH-900 lively sound rather than detract from it and try to neuter it.

If it had a second pair of outputs like most of these thingies do I'd have nothing more to think about.

 

 

 

 

Sorry guys, I'm just thinking out loud here ...

post #7333 of 7557
Understood, I don't need to power any speaker amp so the one output works for me. Good luck.

I really enjoy kurochin metaphors by the way, and I'm a, I want to see my feet past my belly kind of guy, so if its neutering, I'm not opposed to lack of offspring.smily_headphones1.gif
Edited by Whazzzup - 6/26/14 at 5:51am
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Originally Posted by Whazzzup View Post

Understood, I don't need to power any speaker amp so the one output works for me. Good luck.

I really enjoy kurochan metaphors by the way, and I'm I want to see my feet past my belly kind of guy, so if its neutering, I'm not opposed to lack of offspring.smily_headphones1.gif

 

 

I'm very much opposed to any kind of neutering, be it the sexy signature of my TH-900 or my family jewels! :D

 

 

Listening to highres "Hotel California" on the TH-900 through a small Meridian Explorer.

It sounds wonderfull and I can drive the cans to ear-deafening levels so that's not the problem. But I do feel the need for quality amping.

post #7335 of 7557
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Understood, I don't need to power any speaker amp so the one output works for me. Good luck.


I really enjoy kurochan metaphors by the way, and I'm I want to see my feet past my belly kind of guy, so if its neutering, I'm not opposed to lack of offspring.smily_headphones1.gif


I'm very much opposed to any kind of neutering, be it the sexy signature of my TH-900 or my family jewels! biggrin.gif


Listening to highres "Hotel California" on the TH-900 through a small Meridian Explorer.
It sounds wonderfull and I can drive the cans to ear-deafening levels so that's not the problem. But I do feel the need for quality amping.

Maybe I'm a little older and have testosterone issues but the cans through the a8 is plenty sexy for me, I too spend hours listening and marvelling, I'm not sure how many times I put down the cans and just say wow, that sounded great.
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