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post #6076 of 8039
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Originally Posted by kurochin View Post

The HPA-21 is stellar with the TH900. Still trying to get my hands on the 5210 mkIII before I make a decision on which to buy.

Some people on headfi seem to rank the Korean version higher than the Japanese version. I'm unsure having not heard Korean version. Hopefully you will be able to report back if you have the chance to listen to both.
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TH900 is not without rival in this or that. Individual taste apart, some cans are certainly better (PS1000 has more transparency and clarity, e.g.).

But to my ears and listening mostly for "complex" music (60's jazz and orchestral/contemporary), it's the one who's got the best equilibrium overall.

Hence the "organic", "wholeness", "depth", "layered" sensation when listening to it, something incarnated, the exact opposite of HD800, which is the same as

driving a BMW : efficient, hard, masculine. I prefer a more sensuous approach.

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Originally Posted by kurochin View Post
 

The HPA-21 is stellar with the TH900. Still trying to get my hands on the 5210 mkIII before I make a decision on which to buy.

I have the finger on the trigger since several weeks on this one. 

My reason says : listen, boy, you're already got a Trafomatic Head One and a High-amp V-4, why are you adding that Bakoon in the stable ?

My sense say : so many mad-canners here raving about Bakoon it's itching. Is it all hype and collective hybris, or is it really a top Far-east stallion ?

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Originally Posted by mrtim6 View Post


Some people on headfi seem to rank the Korean version higher than the Japanese version. I'm unsure having not heard Korean version. Hopefully you will be able to report back if you have the chance to listen to both.

 

I doubt I'll ever manage to get the two of them at the same time for a side-by-side comparo. Whatever impressions I have will only be based on what I can recall from my time auditioning the HPA-21. However, if the 5210 is anywhere close to the HPA-21 sonically, I think I'll just pounce on it. That it doesn't require batteries and is slightly cheaper would be enough to sway me. Sadly, getting my hands on one is easier said than done.

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Whatever impressions I have will only be based on what I can recall from my time auditioning the HPA-21

Would you elaborate, pleeeeasssse.:L3000:

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Originally Posted by quantx View Post
 

Would you elaborate, pleeeeasssse.:L3000:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/664097/bakoon-hpa-21-headphone-amplifier/210#post_9957973

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Gotta stay away from Head-Fi.   I just ordered TH900 !!!  4 headphones now in the stable.   This is an addicting hobby. 
This is much worse than guitars and cameras
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In the short listen I had at the local Seattle meet the Bakoon had very tube like mids. They were just so creamy. I suppose it depends which tube amp youve heard. it didnt sound like any solid state amp ive heard. It wasn't with the greatest of DACs but there was very little distortion. While I would have liked a better listen, I can't imagine you'd go wrong with this amp with the TH-900's.
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I do not find the TH-900 to be harsh or bright, they are actually quite warm and their treble is less offensive than the previous denon series.

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don't find it warm or bright and the highs aren't the smoothest I've heard, but it's got so many other things going for it.
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The TH900 has been with me for about 4 months now, yet during this period, I have listened very little to them. I had found them to sound too full on, having an over exaggerated bloated bass, and a lot of edginess in the highs. I have tried them with a variety of amps, and they tend to make the TH900 from an extreme V to a U shaped pair of headphones. Ultimately, quite fun for 15 minutes but alas, I was enjoying other headphones quite a lot more.

 

This week, I bought a Leben 300xs on a whim. It was primarily a stop gap from being bored as I await my stat amps. I had anticipated using the Leben for the HD800. It does indeed sound very good with the HD800 except the low level hum between tracks. It is acceptable but it would be better without.

 

When the Leben arrived I had placed it on my bedside table, plugged in a SPC powercord and used the RWAK 120-S as source via my 3.5mm to RCA cable. As mentioned above, the HD800 was the first pair of headphones plugged in. Seeing that the Leben is single ended only I decided to try the TH900 which has been sitting in my drawer for months...................

 

What a revelation!

 

I could not believe I was listening to my TH900. The bass was still a little emphasized but not the bloated over bearing type that I contended with previously. The mids were now fleshed out and had presence and solidity. Highs more rounded. Well previous listening sessions were 15 mins, this time 8 hours straight with breaks for dinner. So, in the last couple of days I have been listening primarily to the TH900.

 

Last night, as I am rearranging my components, I decided to move the Leben to my desktop. I changed out the SPC power cord to a silver gold one. Placed Shun Mook Feet underneath. Still using the RWAK 120-S as source until I am in possession of a longer RCA interconnect.  

 

 

With the changes to power cord and adding the Shun Mook feet, bass has improved significantly being a lot tighter and with a much higher degree of control. The mids has maintained it's solidity but is now more resolving, portraying a better sense of subtleties and nuances. Vocals are now so involving! Highs are more detailed, now with added smoothness. 

 

In a nutshell, the combination is brilliant! 


Edited by spkrs01 - 1/10/14 at 8:28pm
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Originally Posted by spkrs01 View Post

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In a nutshell, the combination is brilliant! 
That's awesome that you found some synergistic gear for your TH900! I was under the impression that the Leben had a High output impedance? Does that hum which affected the HD800's also affect the TH900? Is there much play in the volume control? (i've always wanted to try a Leben)
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Originally Posted by m2man View Post

In the short listen I had at the local Seattle meet the Bakoon had very tube like mids. They were just so creamy. I suppose it depends which tube amp youve heard. it didnt sound like any solid state amp ive heard. It wasn't with the greatest of DACs but there was very little distortion. While I would have liked a better listen, I can't imagine you'd go wrong with this amp with the TH-900's.

 

Yeah, I suppose it depends on what I'd consider a "tubey" sound. You could call the Bakoon tubey if you want to apply terms like "smooth" and "creamy", I suppose. Quite similar to the more linear tube amps I've tried, in that sense (did I just oxymoron?). It's not an over-colouring, thick or "syrupy" type of sound though, which is what I usually refer to when I think of tubes, purely due to my time with many integrated tube amps from the old days. In fact, to my ears at least, the Bakoon doesn't colour at all. It accentuates and attenuates different frequencies - the headphone's impedance curve effectively becomes the frequency response when on Current mode - but it doesn't really add any colour to the sound. If you want more warmth, you'll probably need to pair it to a DAC that offers that like the Wavelength models that have a tube output stage.


Edited by kurochin - 1/11/14 at 6:29am
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Originally Posted by Audio Jester View Post


That's awesome that you found some synergistic gear for your TH900! I was under the impression that the Leben had a High output impedance? Does that hum which affected the HD800's also affect the TH900? Is there much play in the volume control? (i've always wanted to try a Leben)

 

Thanks

 

I actually read through the Leben thread after purchase. The 300xs was tuned with a pair of 32 ohm headphones so all low impedance headphones should work well and no hum. Not so with high impedance headphones such as the HD800/T1, although some has reported no hum at all with any pair of headphones, lucky folks:). 

 

There is enough play on the volume for me. I listen at between 8-10 am on the volume pot and there are half steps on the pot so 10 clicks of play...........

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When listening to the TH-900, if I sometimes get the impression that it's making my music sound a bit too clean and polite for my liking, if I decided to do a sidestep to something like the Sennheiser HD800, might I still get a similar kind of feeling with those headphones?


Edited by namaiki - 1/11/14 at 3:46am
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