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post #5896 of 14257

Thx for sharing Peter. I'd like to offer a contrasting impression.

 

I had a decent amount of time with the XCs earlier before shipping them off to Currawong who has them now. At least to my ears they're still very much apples to oranges. Having them side-by-side driven by the ALO Studio Six & a modified Eddie Current Zana Deux (with a mod 3 ohm/12 ohm switch like the newer SE sibling), I found myself picking up the TH-900s more for enjoyment. I'd probably agree the XCs sound natural although for some reason still not "neutral" but can't put my finger on it.

 

In the end, the XCs sounded too closed sounding for me and would pick up the TH-900s over it at every listening session. The experience was the same for my wife - although not an audiophile she has more sensitive hearing for me. I also shared my experience with Bootsy1 but that was driving the XCs from a portable deviec (HM-901, Tera/Vorzuge combo).

 

So it's very much personal tastes IMHO. I'm somewhat surprised that the XCs have managed to "convert" two TH-900 owners but glad they have found something more suited to their liking. For myself, I think I were seeking for a contrasting sound to compliment my TH-900s, there's a high chance it'll be the Alpha Dogs instead of the XCs.

post #5897 of 14257
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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post

.... I think I were seeking for a contrasting sound to compliment my TH-900s, there's a high chance it'll be the Alpha Dogs instead of the XCs.
That's my approach as well AnakChan. I just love the sound and comfort of the TH900's so I am now looking for contrasting HP's that offer something the TH900 cannot. I challenge anyone to listen to good EDM and not fall in love with the Fostex.
post #5898 of 14257

Listening to the th900's tonight, driven by the tu-05, source is iPhone 5s to m8 to the 05. PRaT is just superb. The headstage doesn't just go from left to right, it arcs, in a manner no other phone has done quite like this. Slightly realistic but also addicting. Detail, speed, and bass just make me put my keyboard away and dance. Goodnight.

post #5899 of 14257
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Originally Posted by kothganesh View Post

Mac,

To my ears, the "quantity" of bass on the TH 900 is more than in the XC but the XC's bass is more natural and the quality seems to be a tad better. It almost seems (to me) that the 900 is trying to pump in more bass than needed (but obviously a lot more fun because of it). Does this make sense to you ?

dunno about the xc coz i haven't heard it but the th900 adds bass oomph when it's called for. it's not like the th900 bass monsters everything. compared to the w3000anv on some tracks the amount of bass is about the same but on others when the w3000anv sounds bass shy the th900 digs deeper.
post #5900 of 14257
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Originally Posted by kothganesh View Post
 

True. But the XC is also closed, so ..........

Ahhh, I did not know that... thought all Audeze headphones were open. Guess I was mistaken then. :confused_face:

post #5901 of 14257
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Originally Posted by up late View Post

not just in a relative sense - measurements show they're recessed too.

I have no words for this, except that if we're talking measurements, then one can argue that the TH900 has OVERPOWERING bass that is just too much for anyone to handle except insane bassheads who have no taste in music. Except it's not.


Edited by Girls Generation - 12/10/13 at 10:32pm
post #5902 of 14257
the objective measurements i've seen show the mids as recessed - that's all i'm saying. i hear them as slightly recessed - relatively speaking. as far as bass goes - yep the measurements show it's got plenty of bass. some folks find it's too much but i don't - relatively speaking.
post #5903 of 14257

Yeah the bass overshadowed the mids a bit to much for me (TH900).  The (W3000anv) was great with female vocals, but the color showed up everywhere.  Bass was not ass good as the TH900s.  I like the treble on both for different reasons and didn't like it on both for different reasons as well.  The TH900s are more "U" shaped and W3000 while not a U shape headphone is more colored.  If the XC can come inbetween these that would be great.  

post #5904 of 14257
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

Yeah the bass overshadowed the mids a bit to much for me (TH900).  The (W3000anv) was great with female vocals, but the color showed up everywhere.  Bass was not ass good as the TH900s.  I like the treble on both for different reasons and didn't like it on both for different reasons as well.  The TH900s are more "U" shaped and W3000 while not a U shape headphone is more colored.  If the XC can come inbetween these that would be great.  
Then you should listen to them. I have not heard the Ws but I think you will find the XC in the spot you want.
post #5905 of 14257
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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post
 

Thx for sharing Peter. I'd like to offer a contrasting impression.

 

I had a decent amount of time with the XCs earlier before shipping them off to Currawong who has them now. At least to my ears they're still very much apples to oranges. Having them side-by-side driven by the ALO Studio Six & a modified Eddie Current Zana Deux (with a mod 3 ohm/12 ohm switch like the newer SE sibling), I found myself picking up the TH-900s more for enjoyment. I'd probably agree the XCs sound natural although for some reason still not "neutral" but can't put my finger on it.

 

In the end, the XCs sounded too closed sounding for me and would pick up the TH-900s over it at every listening session. The experience was the same for my wife - although not an audiophile she has more sensitive hearing for me. I also shared my experience with Bootsy1 but that was driving the XCs from a portable deviec (HM-901, Tera/Vorzuge combo).

 

So it's very much personal tastes IMHO. I'm somewhat surprised that the XCs have managed to "convert" two TH-900 owners but glad they have found something more suited to their liking. For myself, I think I were seeking for a contrasting sound to compliment my TH-900s, there's a high chance it'll be the Alpha Dogs instead of the XCs.

Interesting comments. Not sure if its the tube amps you're using (I'm speaking purely in general terms here and not specific to the amps you've tried with them) as while I've enjoyed some tube amps (WA22) with the LCD-2/3s (or again generally speaking...orthos), I've always seemed to prefer a SS amp to drive them. Meanwhile on the TH-900 front, I can get them to sound really good out of my iPad directly (being very efficient traditional dynamic headphones). On my setup (GS-X MK2 / BDA-2), I would say that the sound staging of the TH-900 and LCD-XC is pretty darn close and among the best I've heard in that regard from closed headphones.

 

I don't think I've been converted as a TH-900 owner as I'm still enjoying them and have zero plans on moving them...I just happen to prefer the more natural sound of the XCs on my setup with the music I prefer (rock, metal, jazz and some classical....but mostly just the first three :p). 

post #5906 of 14257
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Originally Posted by Audio Jester View Post


That's my approach as well AnakChan. I just love the sound and comfort of the TH900's so I am now looking for contrasting HP's that offer something the TH900 cannot. I challenge anyone to listen to good EDM and not fall in love with the Fostex.

 

Any suggestions? :D :L3000:

post #5907 of 14257
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Any suggestions? biggrin.gif  L3000.gif
Daft Punk is a good start.
Btw your avatar has an amazing resemblance to a good friend of mine.
post #5908 of 14257

RE: Sound Staging

The LCD-XC feels even more closed in than the LCD-2.2, which was already smaller staging than the TH900.

Drive the TH900 with something like the Bakoon HPA-21 and you'll see how well they stage compared to any Audeze.

 

 

RE: EDM

Too vast a genre to offer pin-point reccommendations. A lot of it is down to personal preference. The TH900 does well with most forms of EDM, but to me it's in the "dubby" type disciplines where thay absolutely decimate other headphones - slow deep-house, spacey nu-disco or minimal dub-techno, for instance.

Try this: http://www.discogs.com/DJ-Sprinkles-Midtown-120-Blues/master/223128

You can probably find previews at the usual places. If you like it, check out other offerings from that record label, Mule Music, as well as it's sister abels, Mule Electronic and Endless Flight.

 

 

 

 

 

 

post #5909 of 14257
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Originally Posted by kurochin View Post
 

RE: Sound Staging

The LCD-XC feels even more closed in than the LCD-2.2, which was already smaller staging than the TH900.

Drive the TH900 with something like the Bakoon HPA-21 and you'll see how well they stage compared to any Audeze.

 

 

RE: EDM

Too vast a genre to offer pin-point reccommendations. A lot of it is down to personal preference. The TH900 does well with most forms of EDM, but to me it's in the "dubby" type disciplines where thay absolutely decimate other headphones - slow deep-house, spacey nu-disco or minimal dub-techno, for instance.

Try this: http://www.discogs.com/DJ-Sprinkles-Midtown-120-Blues/master/223128

You can probably find previews at the usual places. If you like it, check out other offerings from that record label, Mule Music, as well as it's sister abels, Mule Electronic and Endless Flight.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:D

post #5910 of 14257

^ LOL. Yeah, dubstep's also good obviously. Real dubstep, I mean, not what the radio stations pass off as "dubstep". Echodub kind of dubstep, as you know.

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