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Originally Posted by cardude View Post

 

Now I need an amp and DAC for these, and I'm looking to spend around $1,500.  I'm having a hard time with the decision, I want to make sure to get something that really works well with the 900s.  My short list is the Burson Conductor, the Fostex HP-A8, or used Burson HA-160D paired with a used Solo.

Most people will probably disagree and that's fine, but the Asus Essence One "Muses Edition" is the best SQ alone dac/amp combo I've heard under 2k, I've A-B tested against Grace m903, Burson HA-160D, and Fostex HP-A8, using TH900 and overall the E1 Muses had a better sound

 

leeperry E1 Muses review  where he puts it up against the Eximus DP1 LINK>

 

I've enjoyed the E1 Muses>GS-X mk2>TH900 very much. The E1 Muses DAC under 2k for me is hard to beat.......

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I've seen a E1 Muse with Burson opamp, wondering how it sounds rolleyes.gif

Currently I'm extremely happy with V800>XLRs>V200>ZD>TH900 biggrin.gif

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Originally Posted by zhunter View Post

I've seen a E1 Muse with Burson opamp, wondering how it sounds rolleyes.gif

Currently I'm extremely happy with V800>XLRs>V200>ZD>TH900 biggrin.gif

No other opamp rolling I've done compares to muses01. However on paper muses look average so I've heard others say who can read those graphic graphs on NJR website

 

Average if far from my mind when I listen to them

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Zhunter- that's exactly my set up too and sounds great . Might be my best set up up to date . smily_headphones1.gif
Was thinking of getting another DAC but v800 seems adequate
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Great to hear you're enjoying the TH-900s! The HP-A8C pairing is very good for the current selling price IMO. I've had a chance to hear some TOTL pairings with my TH-900s at meets/Head-Fi acquiantances' abodes to compare immediately against my current system. While I enjoyed some of the pairings a great deal, the cost of the amp/DAC pairings were several times more expensive and for me personally, not worth the additional cost at the time.
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Originally Posted by Trogdor View Post


The problem I see is you are mistaking detail with presentation (regarding your TH-900 vs PS1K comparison). ... Joe's house sound has a very intimate headstage. The TH-900 was taking that away from you so you freaked out! ... I will bet as time marches on you will realize that the Grado's are FAR from neutral and that you will eventually get tired of the color. The Grado lush becomes fatiguing after a while. ... Grado's are like a drug habit. They are highly addictive, but ultimately they are not good for you. After years of rehab you look back and go, "what was I thinking?"
 

 

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Originally Posted by gerry123456 View Post

 

I'll enter detox tongue.gif (i.e. try to go Grado free) for a couple of days (my deadline for sending the TH-900 back is Tuesday). I'll really give the TH-900s the absolute best chance to win my heart over.

 

Detox had sufficient of an effect tongue.gif that my final scores between the TH-900 and PS1K mean the TH-900 is a keeper. Still a close run thing. I think the thing that swung it was realizing that even if I returned the TH-900 and bought another flagship headphone (the Stax being way out of the question ... for now), the best I can realistically hope for, if we consider other things being equal, is a few percentage points difference, to put it crudely, in some part of the frequency spectrum. <-- Gerry opens can of worms with this remark evil_smiley.gif

 

So, I'm not sure the TH-900 have quite won my heart over (yet), but I can appreciate what they bring to the party relative to the Grados now I guess now I'm not 'freaking out' tongue.gif because of my relentless A/B-ing.

 

Maybe the TH-900 have won my head over... If I can stick to a bit less Grado lush going forward, they may well win my heart in time, too.

 

Either way, it's good to re-evaluate from time to time, so thanks again for your frankness Trogdor.

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Originally Posted by cardude View Post

I forgot to add that I need coaxial or optical inputs.  I thought highly of the W7, but saw that it only has USB input.
 

 

I understand that the audio-gd line-up of DAC and/or amp products offer good value for the price. I just bought the TOTL Master 7 DAC from him. And it looks like all of the DAC and combo product offerings will accept coax, optical and USB inputs.

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Originally Posted by jacal01 View Post

 

I understand that the audio-gd line-up of DAC and/or amp products offer good value for the price. I just bought the TOTL Master 7 DAC from him. And it looks like all of the DAC and combo product offerings will accept coax, optical and USB inputs.

 

I'd better get a tube amp for the TH-900.

 

I tried the TH-600 on my main rig (NFB-27 + SA-31) and the mids were still lacking some presence.

I didn't have the Eximus DP1 (forward upper mid) at the time, this could be a good pairing too (don't own the TH-600 anymore).

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+1 for DP1 with the TH900.
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DP1 is a great DAC, but I don't think its amp section could be comparable to some of the best amps for TH900 like ZD, ZDSE, or GSXmkII. Some people reported the TH900 sounds terrific on their ecp L-2 and DSHA-1. 

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Originally Posted by gerry123456 View Post

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Detox had sufficient of an effect tongue.gif
that my final scores between the TH-900 and PS1K mean the TH-900 is a keeper. Still a close run thing. I think the thing that swung it was realizing that even if I returned the TH-900 and bought another flagship headphone (the Stax being way out of the question ... for now), the best I can realistically hope for, if we consider other things being equal, is a few percentage points difference, to put it crudely, in some part of the frequency spectrum. <-- Gerry opens can of worms with this remark evil_smiley.gif


So, I'm not sure the TH-900 have quite won my heart over (yet), but I can appreciate what they bring to the party relative to the Grados now I guess now I'm not 'freaking out' tongue.gif
because of my relentless A/B-ing.

Maybe the TH-900 have won my head over... If I can stick to a bit less Grado lush going forward, they may well win my heart in time, too.

Either way, it's good to re-evaluate from time to time, so thanks again for your frankness Trogdor.

gerry, no problem whatsoever, what are Head-Fi friends for? smily_headphones1.gif

I just want to reiterate, I don't want to *convince* you of anything. I just want to make you more self-aware (without being condescending, your ears are your ears, if you wound up ditching the 900 for the PS1, more power to ya!).
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Originally Posted by Clemmaster View Post

 

I'd better get a tube amp for the TH-900.

 

I tried the TH-600 on my main rig (NFB-27 + SA-31) and the mids were still lacking some presence.

I didn't have the Eximus DP1 (forward upper mid) at the time, this could be a good pairing too (don't own the TH-600 anymore).

Ever think it was the particular solid state amp you were listening to? The TH-900s are very low impedance and finding tube amps with low impedance can be tough. Plus they are so sensitive, I would be careful to find a tube amp (and tubes) that are dead silent or the noise floor could be really cumbersome. 

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Personally I don't think it is fair to compare the DP1's amp to $2k+ amps. The DP1 is primarily a DAC, a very nice one at that, and the way i see it having an amp included means it offers a half-way point before having to pull the trigger on a TOTL amp. Irrespective, the amp in the DP1 is still decent and it delivers a solid voice for the TH900's.
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Originally Posted by Audio Jester View Post

Personally I don't think it is fair to compare the DP1's amp to $2k+ amps. The DP1 is primarily a DAC, a very nice one at that, and the way i see it having an amp included means it offers a half-way point before having to pull the trigger on a TOTL amp. Irrespective, the amp in the DP1 is still decent and it delivers a solid voice for the TH900's.

I never was comparing the DP1 to $2k+ amps....there are several really good ss amps that are $1k and less that sound great with the TH-900s. smile.gif

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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post

I never was comparing the DP1 to $2k+ amps....there are several really good ss amps that are $1k and less that sound great with the TH-900s. smile.gif

Correct. This was aimed at posts like zhunter's above.
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