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post #3841 of 7582
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Originally Posted by HideousPride View Post

Do you mean portable as in on-the-go, or transportable as in taking it to hotels and using them?

 

Rather poor for either. The TH-900 leaks sound, has an unwieldy and long cable, and is a bit heavy for portable use.

 

As for transportable, the box you would use to transport the TH-900 in is very large, not easily stowed away in luggage.

 

Not to mention the exquisite finish on these things and the heartache you'd feel if you ever scratched the cups. I'd shed tears.

 

I agree totally with the above, but have to add that if you do want to use them as part of a portable rig (against good advice :) ), they sound great out of my iPhone 5.  Plenty of volume and dynamics. 

post #3842 of 7582
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Originally Posted by ddoyle777 View Post

 

I agree totally with the above, but have to add that if you do want to use them as part of a portable rig (against good advice :) ), they sound great out of my iPhone 5.  Plenty of volume and dynamics. 

That's good news. Sounds like they work well at low volumes. 

post #3843 of 7582
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Originally Posted by bareyb View Post

Kind of... The Sig DJ thread has some folks who compared them directly. The main physical difference between the two are the drivers and the tuning. The DJ's have 50mm driver versus the 40m they use in the Sig Pro. The DJ's are tuned more for the "Club Sound" which is why I bought them. I personally LOVE them. I think they are a good value for all that you get, even at that price.

 

Just be careful with them... They are extremely efficient and can be pushed to insane volume levels without much power. I thought I'd permanently ruined my hearing when I first got them. I'd been so "bass deprived" that I went a bit overboard and I had ringing in my ears for about 4 days... Scared the crap out of me... I thought it was permanent. confused_face(1).gif

 

I'm happy to report it was just "life" giving me my one fair warning. I have since backed off the high volume listening and my hearing has returned to normal. The good news is, the DJ's perform better at low volume than any other can I've had. Even with very little power going to them, they get  great Bass kick and sound very lively.

Well you should be a little worried - any time you hear ringing its your inner ear hair cells / auditory sensory receptors in your ear dying (4 days of ringing is really bad).. Even if perceived ability to hear comes back, you're hearing will never be the same with each passing incident (so the damage is permanent). Be careful next time, but glad to hear you're enjoying your headphones that much.


Edited by Ahzari - 3/27/13 at 9:36pm
post #3844 of 7582
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Originally Posted by Ahzari View Post

Well you should be a little worried - any time you hear ringing its your inner ear hair cells / auditory sensory receptors in your ear dying (4 days of ringing is really bad).. Even if perceived ability to hear comes back, you're hearing will never be the same with each passing incident (so the damage is permanent). Be careful next time, but glad to hear you're enjoying your headphones that much.

Well thank you Captain Sunshine!  tongue.gif

 

I think I'm okay, but I've learned my lesson. I'm actually enjoying listening at lower volume levels more than I thought I would. I used to think that you had to crank it up to get the best sound, but now I think the opposite is true. I've been missing out on some subtle nuances from the drivers by running them so loud. I'm glad it happened. I sure don't need to screw up my hearing. 


Edited by bareyb - 3/28/13 at 1:10am
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On a happier note, my Th-900s are on the UPS truck and slowly making their way to me from "The HeadRoom" in Bozeman, Montana. Should be here tomorrow afternoon! I'm working from home to make sure I'm here to sign for them.... tongue_smile.gif

 

 


Edited by bareyb - 3/27/13 at 11:30pm
post #3846 of 7582
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Originally Posted by bareyb View Post

On a happier note, my Th-900s are on the UPS truck and slowly making their way to me from "The HeadRoom" in Bozeman, Montana. Should be here tomorrow afternoon! I'm working from home to make sure I'm here to sign for them.... tongue_smile.gif

 

 

 

Look forward to reading your impressions :)

post #3847 of 7582
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Originally Posted by bareyb View Post

On a happier note, my Th-900s are on the UPS truck and slowly making their way to me from "The HeadRoom" in Bozeman, Montana. Should be here tomorrow afternoon! I'm working from home to make sure I'm here to sign for them.... tongue_smile.gif



Why do we need this information?
post #3848 of 7582

2/2013 join date and already had headphones more expensive than all of mine, being a broke college student sucks doesn't it? k701smile.gif

 

My TH900 plan has been delayed for quite a few times now that I've gotten into smartphones and DSLR stuff. *sigh*

post #3849 of 7582
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Why do we need this information?

Really? I love it when someone is buying a product I also enjoy and is sharing the experience. This is why people have "unboxing" threads. Most people are happy for folks, but you are apparently not one of them. So what's your problem "Hubert"?  If this is a jealousy thing, then I feel sorry for you. If you don't want to see people getting excited about buying the Th-900 then I suggest you stay out of the thread.  rolleyes.gif


Edited by bareyb - 3/28/13 at 12:06pm
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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post

You probably should.

I appreciate the input. You have a lot of posts and know the ropes better than I do. Clearly I'm rubbing some folks the wrong way and I'll back off. These ARE expensive headphones that not everyone can just buy whenever they want and I think that's probably where I've been being insensitive. I'm older than a lot of the folks here and have had time for my career and bank account to grow.I do the same type of thing on other forums with far less expensive toys and I don't get the same reaction.  It's like they say.. Money changes everything. wink.gif

 

 

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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

 

 

Hey man - I can't wait to hear your impressions..

 

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I'm going to have to give them a little time. I often love things initially only to find later it's not a good fit. Kind of like this forum ha-ha.  I really do hope these are my end game though... I'm an Admin on another forum and I've been neglecting my duties being with you folks so much. 


Edited by bareyb - 3/28/13 at 1:17pm
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We know you are excited, as we are when a new toy is incoming, but we also don't need a play by play from ordering to shipping to unboxing. It's good to be excited, just need to run a filter between your mind and the internet and realize what should and shouldn't be posted.
post #3852 of 7582
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Originally Posted by bareyb View Post

Really? I love it when someone is buying a product I also enjoy and is sharing the experience. This is why people have "unboxing" threads. Most people are happy for folks, but you are apparently not one of them. So what's your problem "Hubert"?  If this is a jealousy thing, then I feel sorry for you. If you don't want to see people getting excited about buying the Th-900 then I suggest you stay out of the thread.  rolleyes.gif

Speaking for myself, it would definitively be more interesting to read about your impressions than about how your cans got to your place... Unless...

 


Edited by ultrabike - 3/28/13 at 1:10pm
post #3853 of 7582
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Originally Posted by bareyb View Post

I notice you have a crapload of expensive stuff in your profile. Is that why you post it? So people will "admire you"? That's not why I do it... but whatever.  

 

I take lots and lots of measurements of headphones (and sometimes amps, DAC, etc.) In addition to these measurements, I also provide subjective impressions, to see how to correlate or don't correlate to those measurements. The gear list is not for others to admire, but rather for others to understand where I can coming from when I provide those subjective impressions, since some headphones can sound quite different depending upon source, amplification, etc.

 

To prove to you that I don't really give a **** what others think, I have completely deleted all the gear in my profile except for the Beats so that people may now mock me instead of admire me.

 


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Online forums are a social thing and a nice way to interact with people of a like mind or interest. 

 

I actually know many Head-Fi'ers in person. For the social aspect, I prefer to organize meets, big and small, so I can get to know people in person who have similar interests. I see you live in the Silly Con valley. You should have come by to the big meet a few weeks ago.

 


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Originally Posted by bareyb View Post
 

I belong to two or three forums that relate to things I'm interested in. I didn't see any harm in trying to share the joy. We do this type of thing other forums, and I personally enjoy it. Makes the thread more fun for me.  

 

Does anyone else have a problem with my posting style or are these guys just Trolls?

 

I don't think it's anything you did in particular. Some of the guys who been around a while have seen HF become less about headphones and more about anime and mutual admiration societies. Anime, mutual admiration societies, un-boxing videos, etc. are not necessarily a bad thing, so long as they don't dilute the quality of critical analyses or discussions pertaining to sound quality. Unfortunately, this has been a trend lately. Sometimes I wonder if I'm at Facebook rather than Head-Fi when I occasionally stroll through here.

 

I think people would be much more curious about your subjective impressions of the TH900: if from your point of view, it was all it's cracked up to be (or even if it didn't and you were able to state your reasons why.) This is what it comes down to: are you more interested in how other people are interested in yourself or are you more interested in the sound quality of your headphone? Facebook/Twitter or Head-Fi?


Edited by purrin - 3/28/13 at 1:34pm
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I'll be more than happy to give you some impressions after I've heard them for a while. But really, what do you think I'm going to say? That they suck? I mean, let's get real. Of course I'm going to like them and of course they are going to (most likely) be better across the board from any of the other cheaper/less capable headphones I own.

 

Anyway, I get it, no socializing in the Impressions Thread. We can now take this thread back on track where there will be almost nothing to read. I was just trying to have a little fun with my "new friends". I'll be gone soon enough and mark my words...You guys will miss me when I'm gone! biggrin.gif


Edited by bareyb - 3/28/13 at 1:40pm
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Had an extended morning listening session to these through my Musical Fidelity X-CAN V3, being fed by... *gasp* a headphone out cable from my PC directly to the X-CAN. eek.gif Yes, understand the implications of doing this as my current DAC (PS Audio PWDII) is out for a repair on the display currently. I couldn't wait to get started to listening to the "potential" of the TH900s. 

 

Note: These are NOT broken in yet so my listening impressions are after perhaps 2-3 hrs time on them. Take them with a grain of salt but some may appreciate the fact that I'm posting these impressions for those that don't believe in break-in. The X-CAN V3 has about 250 hrs+ on them so plenty broken-in.

 

Music Selections:

 

Started off by playing a hirez track (Bill Evans Trio' Waltz for Debbie - HDTracks), which has a fair amount of ambient sound from the club it was recorded in, as well as a lot of spatial information giving this album a great soundstage to it. Despite the sub-optimal configuration of feeding these headphones, with the X-CAN V3, the presentation was quite sublime, with lots of detail retrieval and great soundstage. Instruments are placed distinctly apart from each other and the ambient crowd noise (you can hear the glasses and get the feeling of smoke and alcohol being consumed). The recording was definitely miked on-stage (or relatively close and upfront) with the performers. The bass is rich in tone and is stage right, drums slightly offcenter to the right and the piano occupying the entire left stage. The audience laughter, coughing, breathing and general whispers can be faintly heard from the background but are also part of what makes this album quite immersive in the listening experience. I've listened to this track through the HD700s & HD650s (driven by the SPL Phonitor) and the HD700s present it very nicely balanced, with great detail retrieval. Through the TH900s & X-CANs, it sounds slightly muted but very intimate, much more suited to this type of music and setting.

 

 

Next up, my current favorite, Two Steps From Hell's Invincible. This album contains a lot of choral music and the duo is responsible for a lot of dramatic music that you hear in MANY of the movie trailers today. There's a lot of subbass in their tracks but quite a bit of choral music mixed into the electronic landscapes. For example, with the track "Freedom Fighters", which was the trailer for the new Star Trek reboot (and gives me goosebumps every time I listen to it), the X-CAN and TH900 combination doesn't quite nail the expansive and vastness of what this track has conveyed via the Phonitor and HD700s. The track was presented with a relatively flat soundstage & muted detail retrieval and the sense that something is lacking. Tonality was all there though, just the presentation is missing the impact that this track should convey. (I'm all about presentation of the music.) "Am I Not Human?", another favorite track from a Tron: Legacy trailer, was also similar in nature. Will likely need to try it out with the Phonitor when I get my PWDII back to follow up on the impressions. 

 

 

 

Kicking it up a notch, I usually pull out Velvet Revolver (their first album, Contraband), just to listen to some of Scott Weiland's vocals & Slash's guitars. I'm a big STP fan, so this band itself is a bit of an extension of STP, especially with the hit single "Slither". (Some folks liken it to G'n'R minus Axel and this may be true on some of the ballads, like "Loving The Alien".) This is not an audiophile album but it's pretty hard hitting and enjoyable on the TH900s. It doesn't come through like a "wall of sound" as it did on the HD650s, with nice separation in the soundstage of vocals and instruments. (You'll see I keep referring to the soundstaging capabilities of this can. See the theme? wink_face.gif). Slash's guitars shine here in a more mature style (outside of his piercing G'n'R days) and Duff Mckagen's bass guitars drone on in rhythmic coherence. This is an overly compressed album but still ends up being a highly enjoyable listen, as the mids aren't overbearing here and lets the detail from the highs shine through.

 

 

 

 

With my head banging finished, I take the pace all the way down with Sync24's Source album. This has some serious synth subbass in some of the tracks, notably the first ("Walk on Spheres") and second ("Memloop") track. You'll need a headphone that can actually reproduce this track to hit your cerebral and aural "gut" with. The TH900s does this quite nicely. The HD700s with the Phonitor also fared quite well here, surprisingly. With the right amplification & synergy, this should be fairly easy to reproduce but mostly gives other headphones I've had fits on the impact of the subbass. I can't imagine with more break-in, a better amp and getting my PWDII DAC back how these TH900s are going to sound. There's a massive thread and plenty of nuggets of information on the amp + TH900 pairings which work better than others and I don't have an amp that allows the full capabilities of the TH900 to shine just yet. 

 

 

 

 

I have some further notes and different albums/tracks I've gathered but I'm going to wait to post follow-up impressions. It's time to let this headphone break-in, listen some more, make some comparisons and mental notes, take a break, come back to it again and provide more impressions with different tracks. Suffice it to say, this headphone stages pretty well (I'm not going to compare against the HD800s since I don't have that handy with me to evaluate against), reproduces the subbass pretty decently, and doesn't do a whole lot wrong on initial listening.

 

I'm probably being more analytical that I should be but when I get to just doing some work and listening to these, it's become apparent that several hours have gone by already and I'm still enjoying the music! This is what it's all about, let the gear get out of the way from the enjoyment of the music and the TH900s allow me to do that a bit more than any of the other headphones I've had in the past. Placebo effect happening? Not sure. I've heard the Stax SR-009s and HD800s before and will likely have to borrow those again from friends to see where they stack up against the Fostex TH900s. I'm pretty sure I may go back to my analytical self if I do attempt to do a comparison, which may not be totally fair to the TH900s, which doesn't necessary stack up technically well compared to these 2 TOTL offerings. 

 

 


Edited by twizzleraddict - 3/28/13 at 2:01pm
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