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post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 
Hi guys,

I've been using earphones exclusively for years, either IE or those conventional earphones that look like miniature stethoscopes. And the main thing that affects the sound the most is the tips (for IEs) or the foam for conventional earphones. With the right tips, with the best seal, you get the best sound and response. Go one size smaller or worse, foam-less (on conventional), and you lose 80-90% of the bass response, mids get pumped and treble becomes harsh. Tip material also makes a huge difference.

Recently, I got myself a Westone 4R and to my surprise, they came with a whole bunch of tips. Triple flange, spongy grey tips, hard and soft silicone. I started with the one's installed, the small spongy grey ones and I was already blown away with the sound, very flat and even. Today though, I decided to try the triple flange ones and, although a bit uncomfortable, the bass was suddenly more full, though a tad muffled. Then I tried the large soft silicone ones and I was amazed by the sound. Not only did separation improve, bass response went from flat to fantastic! I could hear the precise decay of with the kick drum, I could hear the power and clarity of the trance beat, I could identify more precisely where the bass was. Amazing. It made me want to really jack up the volume. The sound gave me goosebumps to say the least.

Again, I'm amazed how much tips can alter the sound. They should really be given more attention and credit. At first, I was all into looking at the specs of the earphone itself but now I'm gonna mind the tips just as much.

My Westone 4R with large soft silicone are the best sounding I've ever heard. Some have suggested Shure Olives or comply tips and I hope to give those a try as well. For now though, I'm definitely glad I swapped those tips.

What tips do you use?

regards,

lorsban

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post #2 of 10

On my IEMs I always use triple-flange tips. Worst comfort, best sound.

post #3 of 10

Comply tips on my Image S4 for now, once my customs are done, no more tips EVER, I hope. I was also using Comply on my TF10.

post #4 of 10
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Originally Posted by gzbaga View Post

On my IEMs I always use triple-flange tips. Worst comfort, best sound.


Yeah very uncomfortable but I do find the sound of these to be warmer than the silicone ones. Will give them a try again later.

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post #5 of 10

Every Westone earphone comes with Comply tips, I think they are the P-series tips. 

Comply has a great reputation, aside from differences in lifespan, and a lot of people use them. I do and it looks like you have tried them now. 

post #6 of 10
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Originally Posted by Shark View Post

Every Westone earphone comes with Comply tips, I think they are the P-series tips. 

Comply has a great reputation, aside from differences in lifespan, and a lot of people use them. I do and it looks like you have tried them now. 

Too bad the P-series are amongst the least comfortable series thet Comply ever made. They're too long, and heavily modify the sound.

 

T and Ts series are much better for instance. They still isolate very nicely and are more "universal" since they're shorter. Ts series is really similar to the Shure/Westone grey olive silicone tips in terms of fit.
 

 

post #7 of 10
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Originally Posted by lorsban View Post

Hi guys,
I've been using earphones exclusively for years, either IE or those conventional earphones that look like miniature stethoscopes. And the main thing that affects the sound the most is the tips (for IEs) or the foam for conventional earphones. With the right tips, with the best seal, you get the best sound and response. Go one size smaller or worse, foam-less (on conventional), and you lose 80-90% of the bass response, mids get pumped and treble becomes harsh. Tip material also makes a huge difference.
Recently, I got myself a Westone 4R and to my surprise, they came with a whole bunch of tips. Triple flange, spongy grey tips, hard and soft silicone. I started with the one's installed, the small spongy grey ones and I was already blown away with the sound, very flat and even. Today though, I decided to try the triple flange ones and, although a bit uncomfortable, the bass was suddenly more full, though a tad muffled. Then I tried the large soft silicone ones and I was amazed by the sound. Not only did separation improve, bass response went from flat to fantastic! I could hear the precise decay of with the kick drum, I could hear the power and clarity of the trance beat, I could identify more precisely where the bass was. Amazing. It made me want to really jack up the volume. The sound gave me goosebumps to say the least.
Again, I'm amazed how much tips can alter the sound. They should really be given more attention and credit. At first, I was all into looking at the specs of the earphone itself but now I'm gonna mind the tips just as much.
My Westone 4R with large soft silicone are the best sounding I've ever heard. Some have suggested Shure Olives or comply tips and I hope to give those a try as well. For now though, I'm definitely glad I swapped those tips.
What tips do you use?
regards,
lorsban
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I couldn't agree more on the importance of the tips just from my own experience of one month only using the IEM's. Forget about the amps, cables and daps before you are sure you get the right properties (damping, mass, etc) for the tips specifically suitable to your ears for the sake of the best sound. The tips providing the most comfortable fit may not necessarily produce the best sound.

 

Then well I am not a scientist and don't know what I am talking about.

 

post #8 of 10

We are about to jump in, but everything we were about to say has been said. Tips can make or break an earphone experience! 

If you have questions, feel free to PM us.

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post #9 of 10
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Originally Posted by tienbasse View Post

Too bad the P-series are amongst the least comfortable series thet Comply ever made. They're too long, and heavily modify the sound.

 

T and Ts series are much better for instance. They still isolate very nicely and are more "universal" since they're shorter. Ts series is really similar to the Shure/Westone grey olive silicone tips in terms of fit.
 

 



I think the P series are also what came along with my TF10. I wouldn't say they're too long, considering I personally use dual flange tips on TF10's but Comply P series tips do modify the sound a bit too much. The isolation though, I will agree, is top notch. In my head, it's just "whoa, what happened to the treble, bass, and outside noise?". I can see it coming in handy when I'm in another terribly organized assembly with sound levels over 95dB constantly.

post #10 of 10
Thread Starter 
After testing out a bunch of tips, I think I've noticed some characteristics:

Torpedo shaped - clarity and definition. Mid/trebly nature

Foam - flat response

Mushroom - more bass

Between these 3 main types, I find that I could pretty much customize IEMs to how I want them.



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