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post #8551 of 8562

Hello everyone, I wasn't sure if I should open a new thread or post my problem on this one, forgive me if I choose the wrong option..

Ok, the problem is that I want to connect my fiio e10k to my Asus ze500kl, it works perfect but it shuts down a few seconds after I lock the phone, which makes this setup pretty much useless. I just got this phone, the first one I own to support otg, and was so exited about finally being able to listen to music without the need of a pc and this is such a disappointment..

User Raenmon already pointed out this issue and suggested using Wake Lock app, which doesn't work for me, the phone goes to deep sleep no matter what kind of lock I set in the app.

Has anyone had this problem and found a solution? Maybe some other app similar to wake lock? My OS is android 6.0.1, not rooted.

I don't think it's a common problem, otherwise using a dac on a phone wouldn't be a popular choice if people had to keep the screen on for as long as they want to play music.. so please give me a had if you have any ideas..

post #8552 of 8562

Sorry if this is elementary, but have you tried the Battery and Power Saving options under General Tab?

post #8553 of 8562
This is more of a bug on Android M(ASUS?). I've experienced the same on my Zenfone 2 Laser. I have a workaround for this. Connect the DAC (turn it on) to the phone, then restart the phone. There must be a bug on the USB otg service of android M. Just repeat the process when it happens again.
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Originally Posted by Eneas View Post

Hello everyone, I wasn't sure if I should open a new thread or post my problem on this one, forgive me if I choose the wrong option..


Ok, the problem is that I want to connect my fiio e10k to my Asus ze500kl, it works perfect but it shuts down a few seconds after I lock the phone, which makes this setup pretty much useless. I just got this phone, the first one I own to support otg, and was so exited about finally being able to listen to music without the need of a pc and this is such a disappointment..


User Raenmon already pointed out this issue and suggested using Wake Lock app, which doesn't work for me, the phone goes to deep sleep no matter what kind of lock I set in the app.


Has anyone had this problem and found a solution? Maybe some other app similar to wake lock? My OS is android 6.0.1, not rooted.


I don't think it's a common problem, otherwise using a dac on a phone wouldn't be a popular choice if people had to keep the screen on for as long as they want to play music.. so please give me a had if you have any ideas..

Edited by jeffvasquez28 - Yesterday at 8:46 pm
post #8554 of 8562
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Originally Posted by biggysmalls View Post
 

My goodness, I wish that I had found this thread a while ago, been wondering where I should go to ask this:

 

I have a samsung s6 edge + chord mojo. This bloody combination pops, stutters and clicks with all streaming (spotify) apps! Noticeably too :( 

 

Is there any way that I can somehow fix this or is this just an issue with all androids and streaming? Any way to force bit perfect streaming? The solution seems to be to play all audio through UAPP, which makes my streaming app useless.

 

Any assistance would be much appreciated. At this point, I'm tempted to sell off my Mojo as it also has this issue in Windows, where by it needs the audio app to have either WASAPI or ASIO enabled or it presents the same problem.

 

Thanks in advance!

 

Sorry that I only see you message now. Have you found a solution meanwhile? The stuttering / crackling sound from my Chord Mojo with signal from the USB output of my W10 laptop was solved by changing the power options in Windows to High Performance. I have not been able yet to get a decent sound without crackles with my Samsung phone J3 (2016) to the Mojo.

From the Samsung J3 to my Ayre Codex works almost fine with just a sporadic crackle. I will get another OTG cable, hopefully that helps. I wil report.

post #8555 of 8562
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Originally Posted by m-i-c-k-e-y View Post
 

Sorry if this is elementary, but have you tried the Battery and Power Saving options under General Tab?

No problem, and yeah, it's the first thing I thought, but found nothing relevant in the settings.

 

 

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Originally Posted by jeffvasquez28 View Post

This is more of a bug on Android M(ASUS?). I've experienced the same on my Zenfone 2 Laser. I have a workaround for this. Connect the DAC (turn it on) to the phone, then restart the phone. There must be a bug on the USB otg service of android M. Just repeat the process when it happens again.

That did it! Thank you so much.. I was starting to resign myself to the fact that using a dac/amp on a phone was too good to be true..

 

 

On a different topic, do you guys know if there's any difference in audio quality between different players? I would think not but I see a lot of discussions about music player apps that are optimized for HQ audio.. my understanding is that any player that supports flac encoding should decode it following a unique algorithm and send the pcm stream to the device, making the output independent of the player one uses, am I missing something?

post #8556 of 8562

I installed 4 players in connecting to my USB DAC using Android: UAPP, NeutronMP, HibyMusic and Onkyo HF. Even on some have bitperfect modes, ALL sounded different (to my ears). My order of preference: UAPP, NeutronMP, Onlyo HF and HibyMusic.

post #8557 of 8562
Still having trouble connecfting my HTC 10 ti my external dac (Denon DA-10). Have tried a few cables, and a few players (UAPP, Neutron, recently downloaded Hiby but haven't tried it). Seems I'll be using the 10 without an external dac, unless I figure it out (mostly use it to stream internet radio, not so terrible without the dac...)
post #8558 of 8562
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Originally Posted by m-i-c-k-e-y View Post
 

I installed 4 players in connecting to my USB DAC using Android: UAPP, NeutronMP, HibyMusic and Onkyo HF. Even on some have bitperfect modes, ALL sounded different (to my ears). My order of preference: UAPP, NeutronMP, Onlyo HF and HibyMusic.

 

I guess I'm going to have to try UAPP although I'm not exited about the idea of installing cracked apps on my still under warranty phone.. I tried a lot of players and the ones with the best critics I find them to have a horrible UI, with problems like not showing album art, not supporting lan servers, unintuitive navigation or awkward buttons placement, etc.. 


Edited by Eneas - Today at 7:53 am
post #8559 of 8562
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Originally Posted by m-i-c-k-e-y View Post
 

I installed 4 players in connecting to my USB DAC using Android: UAPP, NeutronMP, HibyMusic and Onkyo HF. Even on some have bitperfect modes, ALL sounded different (to my ears). My order of preference: UAPP, NeutronMP, Onlyo HF and HibyMusic.


 I tried em too and they all do sound a bit different.

I'd go Neutron>>ONKYO>>UAPP>>Hiby

 

Would love the Hiby album art  on the hood and Neutron under it :D

post #8560 of 8562
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Originally Posted by Hawaiibadboy View Post


 I tried em too and they all do sound a bit different.
I'd go Neutron>>ONKYO>>UAPP>>Hiby

Would love the Hiby album art  on the hood and Neutron under it biggrin.gif

Hey there!

Do you use Tidal?

Also, what's your new go-to portable dac? I remember you had great things to say about the Opus dac a few months back. I'm debating whether I should stick with my ibasso D14 for planars.

Thanks again for all your help around here!
post #8561 of 8562
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Originally Posted by Eneas View Post

That did it! Thank you so much.. I was starting to resign myself to the fact that using a dac/amp on a phone was too good to be true..
You're welcome mate. That issue was not present on lollipop though. After I have updated to MM and bumped into the issue, I tried downgrading to lollipop again just to confirm it was not a problem with the DAC.

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On a different topic, do you guys know if there's any difference in audio quality between different players? I would think not but I see a lot of discussions about music player apps that are optimized for HQ audio.. my understanding is that any player that supports flac encoding should decode it following a unique algorithm and send the pcm stream to the device, making the output independent of the player one uses, am I missing something?

There is, though I have only tried Onkyo, HibyMusic and Poweramp. Without any enhancements, I personally prefer HibyMusic.
post #8562 of 8562
Way back when, I compared Poweramp and Neutron, and preferred Neutron. Now I don't seem to be able to use the players for streaming internet audio. I listen to WFMU.org quite a bit. With my old HTC M8, I could stream through Neutron from the web site, now it doesn't work on my HTC 10. Thankfully, the station has am app that I can stream from (but it doesn't go through the player).
Edited by doctorjazz - Today at 8:05 pm
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