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post #5596 of 5601

rhadorn :

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This makes the identification of the addressed device very easy. In the field smb:// in UAPP, type the device's name as it appears in the Network and Sharing Center of your Windows operating system. Having installed a Western Digital My Cloud on a Windows 7 Home system, I just typed WDMyCloud. 

Hi,

 

I wondered how this worked but was afraid to ask !

 

Well, I've just bought a new phone and wanted to try out UAPP so instead of transferring some music files on to it, I thought I would try this out !

 

So, is it meant to work with other Android devices on the network ? I use BubbleUPnP ( an Android app ) quite easily and together with a component the Bubble folk have provided for Foobar ( Windows ) I can play/render virtually any music file on one device to another and even copy files ( in some directions ). However, this does not , of course, work with UAPP.

 

So I started Bubble on my Xperia which then appears on my network - trouble is there are 3 different names, so I put each one ( in turn - not all at once ! ) into the field after ' smb:// '. None of them worked and each time I got a message saying : ' network failure '.

 

I tried with name of my computer and it failed with a different message about bad user name or password ( I didn't put any passwords in because I don't use one with my computer ).

 

It would be very useful to get this working so any advice or further explanation would be gratefully received !

post #5597 of 5601
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Originally Posted by dynacampjim View Post
 

rhadorn :

Hi,

 

I wondered how this worked but was afraid to ask !

 

Well, I've just bought a new phone and wanted to try out UAPP so instead of transferring some music files on to it, I thought I would try this out !

 

So, is it meant to work with other Android devices on the network ? I use BubbleUPnP ( an Android app ) quite easily and together with a component the Bubble folk have provided for Foobar ( Windows ) I can play/render virtually any music file on one device to another and even copy files ( in some directions ). However, this does not , of course, work with UAPP.

 

So I started Bubble on my Xperia which then appears on my network - trouble is there are 3 different names, so I put each one ( in turn - not all at once ! ) into the field after ' smb:// '. None of them worked and each time I got a message saying : ' network failure '.

 

I tried with name of my computer and it failed with a different message about bad user name or password ( I didn't put any passwords in because I don't use one with my computer ).

 

It would be very useful to get this working so any advice or further explanation would be gratefully received !

 

First, it would be really fine to know from you whether the set up described in the message cited by you works or not: just starting UAPP on the Xperia and defining a Network to an external disk. You can define several distinct ones but must select the one you want before playing...


Second, if you want to use UAPP, you have to let it in control of the operations. Your setup makes me think of a guy, who climbs into his red car to drive the blue one to the garage. In addition and in my understanding, the smb address links to a share (directory structure) and not to a library.

Bubble (which I did not know so far) seems a very interesting app for controlling playback on a very general level. I suspect nevertheless that it takes on every renderer just the default app for playback, in your case the default player on your Xperia. If it would let you more choices, you should see UAPP in the list of the renderers in Bubble and since you define the source library in Bubble, you would'nt need the smb address in UAPP...

UAPP is a high quality player for the benefits of which many users are ready to accept some restrictions for the time being.

Just my understanding of your case. Other understandings welcome.

post #5598 of 5601
Quote:
Originally Posted by dynacampjim View Post
 

rhadorn :

Hi,

 

I wondered how this worked but was afraid to ask !

 

Well, I've just bought a new phone and wanted to try out UAPP so instead of transferring some music files on to it, I thought I would try this out !

 

So, is it meant to work with other Android devices on the network ? I use BubbleUPnP ( an Android app ) quite easily and together with a component the Bubble folk have provided for Foobar ( Windows ) I can play/render virtually any music file on one device to another and even copy files ( in some directions ). However, this does not , of course, work with UAPP.

 

So I started Bubble on my Xperia which then appears on my network - trouble is there are 3 different names, so I put each one ( in turn - not all at once ! ) into the field after ' smb:// '. None of them worked and each time I got a message saying : ' network failure '.

 

I tried with name of my computer and it failed with a different message about bad user name or password ( I didn't put any passwords in because I don't use one with my computer ).

 

It would be very useful to get this working so any advice or further explanation would be gratefully received !

 

 

UAPP doesn't use DLNA/UPnP. You should however be able to access your PC, but I think you will need to have an account with username and password and select a directory in Windows and explicitly share that. Please also see the Notes section on this page:

http://wiki.samygo.tv/index.php5/Mounting_an_CIFS/SAMBA_share_on_a_USB_device_to_bypass_DLNA

post #5599 of 5601

Thanks for the replies rhadorn and Davy. I didn't think UAPP worked with UPnP but it sounded so simple the way rhadorn described it, I just had to give it a try :smile:.

I've looked at the 'notes' section of the above link and that does seem to explain why I could not access my PC, but I can barely follow/understand the instructions to set it up so I'll pass on that. I only tried it as an experiment - if I have to leave my PC on, I might as well listen on the PC !

I transferred a few files to my new phone ( Moto G 2nd gen 5" ) and, using UAPP, it played perfectly via my iFi Nano iDSD dac without any adjustment to the buffer ( I get occasional breaks in audio on the Xperia with the Nano ) so that's great - thanks again to Davy for an app which can produce such high quality audio from quite modest phones and tablets, and for all your support.

post #5600 of 5601
I just posted the following on the Note 4 Sound Quality thread, but figured it is relevant here also:


Just tested the Note 4 USB Audio in store!
Compare to the other phones I have tested. VZW Note 4 tested with Charger Doctor and an HRT Musicstreamer 2.

USB OTG output current:
Note4 - 600mA
Motorola Turbo - 900mA
Note 3 - 900mA
Note 2 - 500mA
GS4 - 500mA
HTC One m7 - 300mA
HTC One m8 - 500mA (as I recall)

Native sampling rate:
Note4 - 48khz
Motorola Turbo - 44.1khz
Note 3 - 48khz
Note 2 - 44.1khz
GS4 - 48khz
HTC One m7 - 44.1khz
HTC One m8 - 44.1khz

Note 4 seamlessly (music pauses when disconnecting DACs) was able to switch between FiiO E17 and HRT Musicstreamer 2 and the built-in phone speaker.

Note 4 also changes sampling rate to 96k when playing 24/96 tracks with Google Play Music as well as the built-in playback of ES File Explorer.

Too bad the output current is less than the Note 3. It is strange that the Droid turbo has 900mA of output current and has no USB 3.0 capabilities. The Note 3 and Note 4 both switch to 96khz with select music playback programs. Unfortunately, they both natively sample at 48 kHz so 44.1khz gets upsampled to 48khz. The GS4 and Note 3 also output at 48khz natively.
post #5601 of 5601

That's not a DAC but a full digital amplifier : the Hifimediy UD80.

"The HiFimeDIY UD80 is a true Digital PWM amplifier with no A/D conversion, no preamp or any analog signal path anywhere before the output stage. This makes a very direct link between the digital source and and the outputs going to the speakers, creating a very clear audiophile sound. "

This FDA amp uses a asynchronous USB connexion and I was able to use it on a ZTE V965 smartphone, using UAPP. 

My configuration :

- Smartphone ZTE V965 + USB Audio Player  Pro (UAPP)

- Y USB OTG cable (possibly to connect the charger)

- Hifimediy UD80

Indeed Audiophile Quality AC90-265V to DC36V5A switching power adapter  (need a good supply for this amplifier)

- JM LAB Focal DB19 (Vintage Audiophile French Speaker , 93.5 db)

 

amazing sound, incredible power. 

 

the UD80

Very small but very powerfull :

 

 

ZTE V965 + UD80 + Indeed power suplly

 

speakers :

 

french review

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