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Originally Posted by bilditup1 View Post


Heh, you know, I figured, what the hell, and plugged my uDac2 without a powered hub into my Moto X a few minutes ago. Ended up working like a charm! So I do hope this is in fact just a Samsung design flaw. But people should still be careful, in general, not to try DACs that have a power hungry reputation on anything irreplaceable.

The FiiO E18 portable DAC/Amp doesn't draw much current and never hurt my S3, Note 3 or iPod Touch 5G.

When it comes to the GS3, it's Caveat Emptor :evil:

post #5192 of 6654
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Originally Posted by pappy97 View Post

Looks like Android 5.0 will have native USB audio!  Probably not overcome the 16 bit limitation (thus, still requiring UAPP for 24 bit playback), but if true, it will be nice to have all kinds of options for ROMS, notably including stock.

Could someone please explain what is "UAPP" ?
Or point me to info online somewhere ?

Thanks.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.usbaudioplayerpro

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Originally Posted by Nozomi View Post


Could someone please explain what is "UAPP" ?
Or point me to info online somewhere ?

Thanks.
post #5194 of 6654
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post

 

Apparently Samsung messed up on the USB hardware, when a USB device draws above a certain level of current the S3 can self destruct, hence the powered Hub protects the S3.

 

Regarding the Galaxy S3, are there any portable dacs that can be used safely without requiring a hub/ y-cable/ juice pack? eg Hifimediy?

 

Any other S3 users care to comment? :normal_smile : 

post #5195 of 6654
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Originally Posted by BrainFood View Post
 

 

Regarding the Galaxy S3, are there any portable dacs that can be used safely without requiring a hub/ y-cable/ juice pack? eg Hifimediy?

 

Any other S3 users care to comment? :normal_smile : 

I can vouch for the FiiO E18, it didn't fry my S3 and I used it often. Just use an OTG cable, no Y required, it came with two flimsy short cables.

My desktop DAC, well that had the bad outcome.


Edited by StanD - 8/13/14 at 7:11am
post #5196 of 6654
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Originally Posted by BrainFood View Post
 

 

Regarding the Galaxy S3, are there any portable dacs that can be used safely without requiring a hub/ y-cable/ juice pack? eg Hifimediy?

 

Any other S3 users care to comment? :normal_smile : 


Behringer UCA2222 works.

post #5197 of 6654
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 

I can vouch for the FiiO E18, it didn't fry my S3 and I used it often. Just use an OTG cable, no Y required, it came with two flimsy short cables.

My desktop DAC, well that had the bad outcome.

 

Ah ha, thanks for the clarification.  So for many portable DACs, it shouldn't be a problem, then.  

 

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Originally Posted by Hutnicks View Post
 

Behringer UCA2222 works.

Thanks.

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Ordered my hifimediy sabre android dac to test with my smartphone, see if changes sound quality smily_headphones1.gif
post #5199 of 6654
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Originally Posted by BrainFood View Post
 

 

Regarding the Galaxy S3, are there any portable dacs that can be used safely without requiring a hub/ y-cable/ juice pack? eg Hifimediy?

 

Any other S3 users care to comment? :normal_smile : 

 

Fiio E07k and E17 also work well with my S3 (SGH-i747m) and are cheaper than the Fiio E18.  Just turn off USB charging on the Fiio so it doesn't suck extra juice out of your S3.  You will need to buy a USB OTG cable (Fiio L15 USB OTG cable) since it's not included in the box like the E18 does.

post #5200 of 6654
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Originally Posted by rafaelroxalot View Post

Ordered my hifimediy sabre android dac to test with my smartphone, see if changes sound quality smily_headphones1.gif

 

 

Look forward to your impressions.  I've been using a Hifimediy U2 sabre (Asynch) in my desktop set up for a while and it punches massively above its weight (with a linear p/s).  

 

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Originally Posted by AvroArrow View Post

 

Fiio E07k and E17 also work well with my S3 (SGH-i747m) and are cheaper than the Fiio E18.  Just turn off USB charging on the Fiio so it doesn't suck extra juice out of your S3. 

Good to know. Thanks

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Originally Posted by BrainFood View Post
 

 

 

Look forward to your impressions.  I've been using a Hifimediy U2 sabre (Asynch) in my desktop set up for a while and it punches massively above its weight (with a linear p/s).  

 

Good to know. Thanks

So you like the Dac from Hifimediy? was worth the buying? much difference on the sound?

post #5202 of 6654
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Originally Posted by DanBa View Post
 

A list of stock Android-powered devices reportedly interworking with compatible USB DAC:
stock Android device > digital USB audio out >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
http://goo.gl/ksoF0d

 

A list of USB Audio Player PRO resources (compatible USB DAC, compatible Android devices, ...):
http://www.extreamsd.com/USBAudioRecorderPRO/

 

A list of USB DAC reportedly interworking with the native USB audio of Android L:
Android device running on Android L > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
http://goo.gl/x3loEQ

 

A list of USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy S3:
stock Samsung Galaxy S3 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
http://goo.gl/yBKivk

 

A list of USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy Note2:
stock Galaxy Note2 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
http://goo.gl/Ga1jYw

 

A list of USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samung Galaxy S4:
stock Samsung Galaxy S4 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
http://goo.gl/dIwrqp

 

A list of USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy Note3:
stock Samsung Galaxy Note3 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
http://goo.gl/7Bvkhz

 

A list of USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samung Galaxy S5:
stock Samsung Galaxy S5 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
http://goo.gl/zUjud0

 

A list of USB OTG cables:

http://goo.gl/4JyOe5

 

USB DAC descriptors:
http://goo.gl/pYJbTu

 

FAQ:
http://goo.gl/A4dCnP

 

The basics:
http://goo.gl/MCFY2x

glad to see dragonfly being supported, great news

post #5203 of 6654
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Originally Posted by DanBa View Post
 

A list of stock Android-powered devices reportedly interworking with compatible USB DAC:
stock Android device > digital USB audio out >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
 

A list of USB Audio Player PRO resources (compatible USB DAC, compatible Android devices, ...):
 

A list of USB DAC reportedly interworking with the native USB audio of Android L:
Android device running on Android L > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
 

A list of USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy S3:
stock Samsung Galaxy S3 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
 

A list of USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy Note2:
stock Galaxy Note2 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
 

A list of USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samung Galaxy S4:
stock Samsung Galaxy S4 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
 

A list of USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy Note3:
stock Samsung Galaxy Note3 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
 

A list of USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samung Galaxy S5:
stock Samsung Galaxy S5 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
 

A list of USB OTG cables:

 

USB DAC descriptors:
 

FAQ:
 

The basics:

 

thanks for this, glad to see the Dragonfly working with Samsung phones, great news

post #5204 of 6654
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Originally Posted by AvroArrow View Post
 

You will need to buy a USB OTG cable (Fiio L15 USB OTG cable) since it's not included in the box like the E18 does.

 

Hi. I can't see any pictures online of the L15.  Does it have a regular size female socket at the non-phone end, like most OTG cables?

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by rafaelroxalot View Post

Ordered my hifimediy sabre android dac to test with my smartphone, see if changes sound quality smily_headphones1.gif

 

I see the android model has a micro usb plug.   Are you meant to connect to a usb-otg cable or directly into the phone?   (assume you would need a usb-otg cable for it to work?)

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Originally Posted by BrainFood View Post

Hi. I can't see any pictures online of the L15.  Does it have a regular size female socket at the non-phone end, like most OTG cables?


I see the android model has a micro usb plug.   Are you meant to connect to a usb-otg cable or directly into the phone?   (assume you would need a usb-otg cable for it to work?)
you connect directly to the phone, but to get the real potential you need an amp before the earphone to sound better, this is what i read about, but mine didnt arrived yet..
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