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post #5161 of 5398
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Originally Posted by BrainFood View Post
 

Folks

 

Here in the UK, the Galaxy S3 has come down to the same price as the Moto G 4G (as an upgrade).  

 

Just wondering which would be best choice for USB audio?  Would the Samsung still work with a custom KitKat rom?  

 

Sorry if it's been discussed a zillion times.  Thanks

My US version S3 worked with USB audio using the stock ROM. I used it with a FiiO E18 and a Schiit USB Uber Bifrost. The Bifrost required a powered USB Hub or else one would risk destroying their phone. When I first hooked up my S3 to the Bifrost my S3 burned out. Luckily it was replaced under warranty. Apparently Samsung messed up on the USB hardware, when a USB device draws above a certain level of current the S3 can self destruct, hence the powered Hub protects the S3. My Apple iPod Touch 5G warns you on the screen about too much current being drawn without frying. The FiiO E18 doesn't draw power from the phone and does not endanger the S3. I'm not sure how the Non-USA version of the S3 behaves.

post #5162 of 5398
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Originally Posted by ramordep View Post

I tried connecting fiio e10 to my xperia z2 and the battery drained by 1% every minute.. Any idea why?

 

The E10 doesn't have its own power supply, nor a battery, and is entirely dependent on the 5V bus power. I'm surprised it even worked. Try a powered hub with it, although if you can't get  the ones already mentioned here it may not work or work differently (ie some will charge both the phone and power the E10, some might power the E10, some won't run the E10).

post #5163 of 5398
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 

 Apparently Samsung messed up on the USB hardware, when a USB device draws above a certain level of current the S3 can self destruct, hence the powered Hub protects the S3. 

 

Wow, surprised to read that, as I thought the Galaxy S range was one of the better handsets for usb audio.  At least that was the impression from occasional visits to this thread.

 

Anyhow, If I bought the S3, I would definitely want to install a custom rom (such as CyanogenMod) to improve the phones everyday performance.  Would that change usb audio in any way?

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A list of stock Android-powered devices reportedly interworking with compatible USB DAC:
stock Android device > digital USB audio out >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
http://goo.gl/ksoF0d

 

A list of USB Audio Player PRO resources (compatible USB DAC, compatible Android devices, ...):
http://www.extreamsd.com/USBAudioRecorderPRO/

 

A list of USB DAC reportedly interworking with the native USB audio of Android L:
Android device running on Android L > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
http://goo.gl/x3loEQ

 

A list of USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy S3:
stock Samsung Galaxy S3 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
http://goo.gl/yBKivk

 

A list of USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy Note2:
stock Galaxy Note2 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
http://goo.gl/Ga1jYw

 

A list of USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samung Galaxy S4:
stock Samsung Galaxy S4 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
http://goo.gl/dIwrqp

 

A list of USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy Note3:
stock Samsung Galaxy Note3 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
http://goo.gl/7Bvkhz

 

A list of USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samung Galaxy S5:
stock Samsung Galaxy S5 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
http://goo.gl/zUjud0

 

A list of USB OTG cables:

http://goo.gl/4JyOe5

 

USB DAC descriptors:
http://goo.gl/pYJbTu

 

FAQ:
http://goo.gl/A4dCnP

 

The basics:
http://goo.gl/MCFY2x

post #5165 of 5398

hi guys, which is the android dac best budget that you can recommend?

I found that one, is good? http://hifimediy.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=62&product_id=124

post #5166 of 5398
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Originally Posted by rafaelroxalot View Post
 

hi guys, which is the android dac best budget that you can recommend?

 

I haven't heard the one you linked, but the Ibasso D-Zero isn't bad for $100 - it has its own battery and will likely drain the Android less (make sure to leave the Charge switch on "Off" - I've made that mistake more than once), also has enough power to drive fullsize headphones well enough owing to its own battery and a full portable amp circuit. As for the DACs, I suppose the any of those DACs themselves as long as they work will be better than most mobile devices - my non-Wolfson S3 (not that the Wolfson sounds fantastic, it's just that I know for sure that mine doesn't) sounds a lot darker on my IEMs (louder or not, doesn't matter), and my iPad while better on the treble has a hint of graininess (doesn't really bother me though, but when I come home after using it for a day then switch to my reference system, the latter just sounds cleaner).

post #5167 of 5398
+1 on the D-Zero. Would be much more popular around here at $300, IMO. Meier PCSTEP is very good as well.
post #5168 of 5398
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Originally Posted by ProtegeManiac View Post
 

 

I haven't heard the one you linked, but the Ibasso D-Zero isn't bad for $100 - it has its own battery and will likely drain the Android less (make sure to leave the Charge switch on "Off" - I've made that mistake more than once), also has enough power to drive fullsize headphones well enough owing to its own battery and a full portable amp circuit. As for the DACs, I suppose the any of those DACs themselves as long as they work will be better than most mobile devices - my non-Wolfson S3 (not that the Wolfson sounds fantastic, it's just that I know for sure that mine doesn't) sounds a lot darker on my IEMs (louder or not, doesn't matter), and my iPad while better on the treble has a hint of graininess (doesn't really bother me though, but when I come home after using it for a day then switch to my reference system, the latter just sounds cleaner).

right, thanks.

but my budget will be like 50$ so i was searching and have found only the HIFIMEDIY SABRE and stoner acoustics UD110 DAC in that price... but i dont know which will work best on android... if there are real differences for beginners on 16/48 and 24/96 

post #5169 of 5398
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Originally Posted by rafaelroxalot View Post
 

right, thanks.

but my budget will be like 50$ so i was searching and have found only the HIFIMEDIY SABRE and stoner acoustics UD110 DAC in that price... but i dont know which will work best on android... if there are real differences for beginners on 16/48 and 24/96 

if you can find one stoner's UD110 V2 is android compatible with many devices most for that matter. The new UD120 is compatible only through UAPP application because of it's higher bit and resolution I believe. I do not think the sabre dac is compatible.

post #5170 of 5398
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Originally Posted by WhiskeyJacks View Post
 

if you can find one stoner's UD110 V2 is android compatible with many devices most for that matter. The new UD120 is compatible only through UAPP application because of it's higher bit and resolution I believe. I do not think the sabre dac is compatible.

this one is 29$ http://hifimediy.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=124 but has only 

USB (receiver) PCM2706:
- Accepts up to 48Khz/16bit, dont have 24/96 
but is microusb
 
only that one 42$ HIFIMEDIY SABRE USB DAC ES9023 96KHZ/24BIT has 

 

you think that stoner acoustics ud110 v2 dac works on android?

post #5171 of 5398
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Originally Posted by rafaelroxalot View Post
 

this one is 29$ http://hifimediy.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=124 but has only 

USB (receiver) PCM2706:
- Accepts up to 48Khz/16bit, dont have 24/96 
but is microusb
 
only that one 42$ HIFIMEDIY SABRE USB DAC ES9023 96KHZ/24BIT has 

 

you think that stoner acoustics ud110 v2 dac works on android?

O you are talking about the android specfic ones that are 48khz and 16 bit from Hifimediy and yes those are suppose to be good for the price, imo easier to find than the UD110 v2 , but I believe the UD is a better DAC, in my comparisons with other DACs I did not find it far behind the ODAC in sound quality. But the Sabre android DAC and or the Sabre mini( which is a standard usb plug type fo teh android Sabre dac but it is also able to work with android with the adapter to micro us.) So if you are planning on using this strictly with your phones micro usb port then I suggest the sabre android dac, but if you want to use with pc and or laptop then get the mini version which I can link you if you do not see what I am talking about. Both sound the same. 

post #5172 of 5398

http://hifimediy.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=62_73&product_id=107

 

Also if you are ordering in the US they have a Oregon Location that ships out faster for US customers,

http://us.hifimediy.com/Digital_to_analog_converters/HiFimeDIY_Sabre_Android_USB_DAC


Edited by WhiskeyJacks - 8/5/14 at 5:34pm
post #5173 of 5398
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Originally Posted by WhiskeyJacks View Post

http://hifimediy.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=62_73&product_id=107

Also if you are ordering in the US they have a Oregon Location that ships out faster for US customers,
http://us.hifimediy.com/Digital_to_analog_converters/HiFimeDIY_Sabre_Android_USB_DAC

Yes but i will not loose quality with these on android cause they are Accepts up to 48Khz/16bit and not support 96khz/24bit, with 96/24 i will not have more quality reproduction?
post #5174 of 5398

My Fiio E18 just arrived . Not working with Galaxy S4 i9505 ( ROM 4.4.4 Google Edition by Jamal ) . Not working with stock Nexus 7  .

post #5175 of 5398

Just want to share with folk that the latest firmware/OS update to 4.4.4 on Moto G (3G) has cured all my ills in having to restart with DAC (Stoner Acoustics UD110 v2) attached every time in order to have OS control of volume of audio. As of now this DAC is plug 'n play with Moto G for all system audio including 3rd party apps (Play Music, Spotify, ES File Explorer, Nexus Media Importer, Soundcloud etc.) with system volume control fully functioning, and it even appears to still function as a phone aswell ; ), which is a bit of a bonus.

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