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Originally Posted by BBEG View Post

Doesn't fit nicely in pocket = not portable. That thing is several times the depth of the pictured phone, which itself looks to be in a slim rubber case.
As I'm not an electrician, how viable is a short mini-USB to SPDIF cable? I've mentioned it a few times now and from a layman's perspective I don't see why this can't be done. Then damn the software compatibility, you have a legit optical out solution from an MHL capable port. E17 would read that just fine.

Might not be as portable as a FIIO E7 but look at the spec and it's more in the class on the new Sony PHA-1, Fostex HP-P1 or CLAS with an Amp. This thing can easily replace any desktop rig and be happy ever after. biggrin.gif
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Well, it's not out yet so we will have to wait and see. It's going to be the battle of the super rigs pretty soon with the new CLAS coming out, hifiman hm-901, hifi m8, etc, if the hifi m8 with an android phone can beat a dx100 mk3 set up or ipod clas mk3 setup, i'm sold!
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Originally Posted by Twinster View Post

@DanBa, I just want to thanks you for all the effort you put in this thread ( and other one ).

X2  I'm anxiously awaiting the Note 2 in the US and am pretty glued to this thread. I'd love to make it my main portable rig with a nice portable DAC/amp pairing! 

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I'm really interested in this thread, I was wondering if anyone happened to know if the dragonfly would work with any mobile device. I know that the dragonfly apparently works with receivers and other players as a DAC, so I was just interested if anyone has any insight on that. 

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A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy Note II:

 

stock Galaxy Note II > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (micro-A plug inserted in the Note II) >> standard USB DAC >> amp >> headphones

 

. FiiO E7 (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.headfonia.com/fiio-e7-portable-dac/

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/480#post_8771744

 

. HeadAmp Pico (USB DAC/amp): (via USB 2.0 hub)

http://www.headamp.com/pico/pico_dac_amp/index.htm

http://www.head-fi.org/t/625054/samsung-galaxy-note-2/30#post_8774905

 

. iBasso D12 (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.ibasso.com/en/products/show.asp?ID=63

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/405#post_8750862

 

. Leckerton UHA-6S MKII (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.leckertonaudio.com/products/uha-6s-mkii/

http://www.head-fi.org/t/625054/samsung-galaxy-note-2/30#post_8777791

 

. Objective DAC (ODAC):

http://epiphany-acoustics.co.uk/our-products/e-dac-24bit-miniature-usb-dac/

http://www.jdslabs.com/item.php?fetchitem=46

http://www.headnhifi.com/index.php/shop/objective/odac

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/435#post_8758515

 

. ODAC+O2 (USB DAC/amp):

http://epiphany-acoustics.co.uk/our-products/ehp-o2d-miniature-desktop-headphone-amplifier-with-usb-dac/

http://www.jdslabs.com/item.php?fetchitem=48

http://www.headnhifi.com/index.php/shop/objective/o2120527192048

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/435#post_8758515

 

. Sony PHA-1 (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.touchmyapps.com/2012/10/09/sony-pha-1-idevice-dac-and-headphone-amp-in-review/

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/465#post_8769593

 

. VentureCraft Go-Dap X (USB DAC/amp):

http://venturecraft.jp/gadget_en/index.php

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/465#post_8769593

 

 

Bold: new addition to the list

 

So far, like the quad-core Exynos powered Galaxy S III, the new quad-core Exynos powered Samsung Galaxy Note II can work with the FiiO E7, the iBasso D12, Leckerton UHA-6S MKII, the ODAC and the VentureCraft Go-Dap X; has some issue with the HeadAmp Pico; and doesn’t work with the FiiO E17.

 

So, in regard to standard USB audio, the behaviour of the Galaxy Note II is likely identical to the behaviour of the Galaxy SIII.

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A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy S III:

 

stock Samsung Galaxy S III > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (micro-A plug inserted in the S III) >> standard USB DAC >> amp >> headphones

 

. AMB Gamma 1:

http://www.amb.org/audio/gamma1/

http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson-dac-confirmed-for-galaxy-s3/780#post_8750043

 

. AMB Gamma 2:

http://www.amb.org/audio/gamma2/

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27247705&postcount=279

 

. Apex Glacier (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.ttvjaudio.com/Apex_High_Fi_Audio_Glacier_portable_headphone_amp_p/aaa0000010.htm

http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson-dac-confirmed-for-galaxy-s3/825#post_8776449

 

. Asus Xonar U3 (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.asus.com/Multimedia/Audio_Cards/Xonar_U3/

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/429589-Samsung-Galaxy-S3?s=1a313fae4795a9a7493a6ce0f677ca8e&p=8551119&viewfull=1#post8551119

 

. Behringer UCA202 (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/UCA202.aspx

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/240#post_8654226

 

. Behringer UCA222 (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.behringer.com/en/Products/UCA222.aspx

http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f6-dac-digital-analog-conversion/usb-audio-enabled-android-powered-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-12338/#post171651

 

. Beresford Caiman:

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/audio-visual/hi-fi-and-audio/hi-fi-accessories/beresford-caiman-673787/review

http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f6-dac-digital-analog-conversion/usb-audio-enabled-android-powered-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-12338/#post171651

 

. C-Media chipset-based sound card Dynamode 7 channel USB 2.0 (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.chinacomputerparts.com/d-p1140199199635616900-cables/

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27604946&postcount=449

 

. Cakewalk Sonar SPS 25:

https://www.cakewalk.com/support/kb/reader.aspx/2007013101

http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f6-dac-digital-analog-conversion/usb-audio-enabled-android-powered-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-12338/#post171651

 

. Corsair HS1 Gaming headset (USB DAC/amp/headphones):

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3989/corsair-hs1-gaming-headset

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27238117#post27238117

 

. FiiO E7 (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.headfonia.com/fiio-e7-portable-dac/

http://www.androidnz.net/2012/07/galaxy-s-iii-real-user-review-part-2.html

 

. Furutech ADL Cruise (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.furutech.com/a2008/product2.asp?prodNo=399

http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson-dac-confirmed-for-galaxy-s3/585#post_8567838

 

. GoVibe DAC:

http://jaben.net/forums/index.php?topic=2824.0

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2440879&st=500&p=53317360&#entry53317360

 

. GoVibe Mini USB DAC:

http://www.jaben.com.au/collections/go-vibe/products/govibe-minidac

http://www.head-fi.org/t/614111/finally-digital-out-for-galaxy-siii/15#post_8525675

 

. GoVibe Petite (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.head-fi.org/t/290711/govibe-petite-dac-amp-appreciation-thread-pics-little-update

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs-how-to-increase-the-issues-priority-with-google/195#post_8552452

 

. HRT HeadStreamer (USB DAC/amp):

http://highresolutiontechnologies.com/headstreamer

http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson-dac-confirmed-for-galaxy-s3/750#post_8677483

 

. HRT Music Streamer II:

http://highresolutiontechnologies.com/music-streamer-ii

http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson-dac-confirmed-for-galaxy-s3/465#post_8534856

 

. HeadAmp Pico (USB DAC/amp): (Exynos-based S III connected to Pico via USB 2.0 hub)

http://www.headamp.com/pico/pico_dac_amp/index.htm

http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson-dac-confirmed-for-galaxy-s3/480#post_8539705

http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson-dac-confirmed-for-galaxy-s3/750#post_8688938

http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson-dac-confirmed-for-galaxy-s3/720#post_8638606

 

. HeadRoom Total BitHead (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.headphone.com/learning-center/bithead-faq.php

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs-how-to-increase-the-issues-priority-with-google/135#post_8527516

 

. HeadStage USB DAC cable:

http://www.inearmatters.net/2010/04/short-review-headstage-usb-dac-cable.html

http://www.headphiles.org/index.php/topic,4452.msg241979.html#msg241979

 

. HiFiMan Express HM-101:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/571330/hifiman-express-brand-and-hm-101-portable-usb-dac

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27284184&postcount=291

 

. iBasso D-Zero (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.ibasso.com/en/products/show.asp?ID=73

http://neutronmp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=314&start=20#p1636

 

. iBasso D2 Boa (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.ibasso.com/en/products/show.asp?ID=30

http://www.head-fi.org/t/552014/pictures-of-your-portable-rig-part-xv/5535#post_8509186

 

. iBasso D2+ Boa (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.ibasso.com/en/products/show.asp?ID=42

http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f6-dac-digital-analog-conversion/usb-audio-enabled-android-powered-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-12338/#post171651

 

. iBasso D5 (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.head-fi.org/t/556490/ibasso-d5-hj-yet-another-usb-dac-amp

http://www.head-fi.org/t/614111/finally-digital-out-for-galaxy-siii#post_8462693

 

. iBasso D10 (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.ibasso.com/en/products/show.asp?ID=39

http://www.head-fi.org/t/628374/samsung-galaxy-s3-to-dac-usb-micro-b-male-to-mini-b-male#post_8735134

 

. iBasso D12 (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.ibasso.com/en/products/show.asp?ID=63

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29069294&postcount=924

 

. iQube v2 (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.i-qube.nl/index.php?id=24

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?s=6fe26080d10769d0f785157c83e74465&p=31207282&postcount=1268

 

. KingRex UD-01:

http://www.kingrex.co.uk/dac.html

https://www.facebook.com/headfonia/posts/352787358128700

 

. Leckerton UHA-4 (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.leckertonaudio.com/products/uha-4/

http://www.head-fi.org/t/536982/leckerton-audio-slimline-uha-4/1020#post_8773152

 

. Leckerton UHA-6S MKII (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.leckertonaudio.com/products/uha-6s-mkii/

http://www.head-fi.org/t/602493/new-leckerton-uha-6s-mkii-portable-headphone-amplifier-announced-update-user-impressions-added-july-20th-2012/435#post_8698006

 

. Matrix Mini-i (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.headfonia.com/matrix-mini-i-balanced-dac/

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/465#post_8768166

 

. Microsoft Philips Digital Sound System 80 (USB DAC/amp/speakers):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Sound_System_80

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1703218

 

. NuForce Icon HDP (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.nuforce.com/hp/products/iconhdp/index.php

http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson-dac-confirmed-for-galaxy-s3/585#post_8567838

 

. NuForce Icon Mobile (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/nuforce10/mobile.html

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/435#post_8759826

 

. Objective DAC (ODAC):

http://epiphany-acoustics.co.uk/our-products/e-dac-24bit-miniature-usb-dac/

http://www.jdslabs.com/item.php?fetchitem=46

http://www.headnhifi.com/index.php/shop/objective/odac

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/315#post_8707637

 

. ODAC+O2 (USB DAC/amp):

http://epiphany-acoustics.co.uk/our-products/ehp-o2d-miniature-desktop-headphone-amplifier-with-usb-dac/

http://www.jdslabs.com/item.php?fetchitem=48

http://www.headnhifi.com/index.php/shop/objective/o2120527192048

http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=410941392302962&id=164588276945555

 

. Ordnance .25 (USB DAC/amp):

http://jaben.net/forums/index.php?topic=9984.0

http://www.head-fi.org/t/614111/finally-digital-out-for-galaxy-siii#post_8462693

 

. RSA Predator (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.raysamuelsaudio.com/products/predator

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/150#post_8538933

 

. Stoner Acoustics UD100:

http://stoneracoustics.blogspot.fr/

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2452730&st=160&p=54596977&#entry54596977

 

. Syba SD-AUD20101: (optical S/PFIF capable)

http://www.sybausa.com/productInfo.php?iid=1191

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/375#post_8736082

 

. Topping D1 Mark 2 (USB DAC/amp):

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=zh-TW%7Cen&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&u=http://www.tpdz.net/produce.asp%3Fid%3D25&usg=ALkJrhhte1Q6A1NnVWodszs9J4x85vGfDg

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28673076&postcount=871

 

. Topping TP30 (USB DAC/amp):

http://news.cnet.com/8300-5_3-0.html?keyword=Topping+TP-30

http://www.androidnz.net/2012/05/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-usb-audio.html

 

. VentureCraft Go-Dap X (USB DAC/amp):

http://venturecraft.jp/gadget_en/index.php

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/315#post_8708233

 

. xDuoo XP-1 (USB DAC/amp):

http://translate.google.fr/translate?hl=fr&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.xduoo.com%2Fxduoo%2FProductShow.asp%3FID%3D47

http://translate.google.fr/translate?tl=en&sl=zh-CN&u=http://www.erji.net/read.php%3Ftid%3D1320392%26page%3De&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dxduoo%2Busb%2Bdac%26hl%3Dfr%26biw%3D910%26bih%3D436%26prmd%3Dimvns&sa=X&ei=4GxdUKTrIaal0AXmr4HoDQ&sqi=2&ved=0CCcQ7gEwAA

 

 

Bold: new addition to the list

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Omg, Google Play and Leckerton UHA-6S, on the Galaxy Note 2.  Talk a bout hitting a homerun.

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Originally Posted by Uchiya View Post

Omg, Google Play and Leckerton UHA-6S, on the Galaxy Note 2.  Talk a bout hitting a homerun.

 

 

...so you confirm that the dac and amp are working with the Note2? and which version of the Note2, international?...thanks for the update

post #519 of 5374
Thread Starter 
Lentus has also confirmed it is working with the International Note 2.
post #520 of 5374

Im using a Nook color with a Turtle Beach Micro II. Any idea why audio would be sped up and be at a higher pitch when using the dac vs analog?
 

post #521 of 5374
"Different audio systems use different rates of 44.1, 48, and 96 kHz.
Users would like to transfer source material between these systems.
Just replaying the existing data at the new rate will not normally work—it introduces large changes in pitch (for audio).
 
Hence sample rate conversion is required.
Two basic approaches are:
 
. Convert to analog, then re-sample at the new rate.
. Digital signal processing – compute the values of the new samples from the old samples." (i.e. resampling)
 
The sampling rates of the Nook Color USB audio and your music are likely different; and the modded Nook Color USB audio has no automatic sample rate switching, no resampling, or its resampling is very low quality.

Edited by DanBa - 10/15/12 at 3:44pm
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post #523 of 5374
Thread Starter 

Wow, good news DanBa! Certainly one that I was avidly looking forward for confirmation of S3 compatibility...

 

...too many choices now!

post #524 of 5374
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Originally Posted by DanBa View Post

"Different audio systems use different rates of 44.1, 48, and 96 kHz.
Users would like to transfer source material between these systems.
Just replaying the existing data at the new rate will not normally work—it introduces large changes in pitch (for audio).
 
Hence sample rate conversion is required.
Two basic approaches are:
 
. Convert to analog, then re-sample at the new rate.
. Digital signal processing – compute the values of the new samples from the old samples." (i.e. resampling)
 
The sampling rates of the Nook Color USB audio and your music are likely different; and the modded Nook Color USB audio has no automatic sample rate switching, no resampling, or its resampling is very low quality.


So how do i go about fixing this? a new dac or do i need to resample all my music? does anyone know what rate it needs to be sampled to?

post #525 of 5374
You should ask the developers of Nook Color USB audio to fix the issue.
 
There are likely two involved sample rates: 44.1 or 48.
 
"Bit Perfect Audio
You need to be aware that ALSA by default will upsample all of your audio to 48 kHz. This keeps it compatible with TV broadcasts as well as Dolby Digital and DTS surround on DVDs. ALSA typically takes the sound from your content, routes it through a module called "plug" where this resampling takes place, and then routes it to a module called "dmix", a software mixer, before it outputs it to your SPDIF/iec958 connector.
For Die hard Audiophiles, this resampling is a real source of irritation as CD audio is made using PCM at 44.1 kHz. The upsampling in ALSA is unfortunately very low quality, and if you have a half decent amplifier and speakers, you will notice that CD playback has a congested compressed sound to it. This is very easy to overcome"
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