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Originally Posted by DanBa View Post
 

It is certainly possible because a smartphone is a computer.

The UAPP developer can add some related code if he wants to.

He should have a lot of requirements, and he should carry out some prioritization.

Personally, it is not my requirement, because I used to listen my preferred music in shuffle mode.

 

Personally, a smartphone is superior than a DAP because it is a computer:

. one can use the best music player available at a given time

. one can stream music from a personal DLNA/UPnP cloud, from some Internet cloud, from some online music provider like Spotify, Qobuz ...

. one can store music on some additional standard mass storage device

...

 

For an audiophile, a DAP has a lot of useless features like internal DAC and internal amp, because he certainly wants to select an external DAC and an external amp allowing the best matching/synergy with his headphones.

 

And as everyone has to have a phone, why not using this phone acting as a music-oriented computer to transmit digital USB audio stream to an external DAC?

Why go the boring route with an additional limited device like a DAP?

Most if not all DAPs are computers as they have micro-processors in them. It's just a question of how good or bad the software is. I find the iPod Touch 5G to be quite good, only that it cannot take a micro-SD card so you can get it with up to 64 GB internal. Its built in DAC and Amp are surprisingly good, the software is very good as you can get Neutron (recently) on iOS. There are other good player apps on it as well, in the past not so much. It is small, light weight, easily attaches to external DACs and its USB Audio implementation is far better than anything I've seen on Android and I'm a big Android fan and can admit this. You can also stream from the device as well as listen to streaming services, even Google All Access.


Edited by StanD - 5/11/14 at 5:01pm
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My note 3 sounds Heavenly out of my cypher labs solo db & duet combo! Streaming spotfiy or rocking power amp!
post #4668 of 5375
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Originally Posted by tracyca View Post

My note 3 sounds Heavenly out of my cypher labs solo db & duet combo! Streaming spotfiy or rocking power amp!

 

May I ask if you use UAPP & the standard CLAS-supplied USB (OTG?) cable? The reason being is that I'm having a PITA trying to get that to work and I don't want to buy UAPP yet before ensuring this combination works reliably.

 

The trial is simply too short (either 20 min limitation or play tracks limitation) so I can't even evaluate the SQ coming out of UAPP as most of the time is fiddling to get it to work.

 

The maker has mentioned I can simply uninstall/reinstall to reset the trial but I'm losing patience and more detrimentally doesn't instill confidence in the product (for me at least).

post #4669 of 5375
I have the solo db hook up to note 3 using a Forza Audio otg cable. I use uapp for my evo 4G lte though. I have used the standard otg cable that came with the solo db and it also works fine.
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I have the note 3 t-moble version , don't know if there is a difference between carriers or international versions.
post #4671 of 5375
The full UAAP version is worth the 9 dollars though.
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Originally Posted by tracyca View Post

The full UAAP version is worth the 9 dollars though.

If I could only use one specialty app instead of any player app through native USB Audio, I woud quickly lose interest and seek another solution. I'd expect on Android to be able to use streaming services like Spotify, Google Player (All Access), etc. and apps like Neutron and PowerAmp.

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I second that. But UAAP gave us a option that wasn't there for us Android users.
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I second that. But UAAP gave us a option that wasn't there for us Android users.

I'd find a new phone or a used phone that works properly with USB Audio and use that as a player. Or until I could get an Android phone that does it right, get an iPod Touch 5G. The downside is this would cost a bunch of money. Actually I got the Touch 5G, in addition to my GS3. The GS3 has its issues but does native USB Audio.

Another option is to check xda-developers for a ROM that does it right on my phone and root my phone, etc.

For many people this situation stinks, primarily because when it comes to Audio, Google dropped the ball. They need to step up and get this under control.


Edited by StanD - 5/11/14 at 7:51pm
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anyone have tried Xperia M2? or any of the new budget android phone from Asus (ZenFone), Huawei, Xiaomi, Oppo etc?


Edited by hoekeat - 5/11/14 at 11:32pm
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I have the LH Labs Geek Out 450mw. works fine when connected to my win7 laptop.

Currently there is an issue with Android phones (mine is S4) even with UAPP, hope it may be solved soon by a Geek firmwate update.

 

I did encounter a serious problem though:

 

  • Can you explain what's the issue with the Y-OTG cable? Is there a recommended cable to use? I do not want to have the USB hub, for better portability.

 

Thanks


Edited by zolom - 5/11/14 at 11:35pm
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Originally Posted by phillyd View Post

What are your favorite music players? I just got power amp and I love it.

USB Audio Player PRO (UAPP) is the best sound quality music player to my ears on my setup (Samsung Galaxy Note 3 > Objective DAC > SoundLab Neco V3 amp > MrSpeakers Mad Dog headphones) for the time being.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/638387/best-android-music-player-app/240#post_10120655

 

 

Is it possible to show album art when streaming from your HDD and can you use shuffle mode when using UAPP when streaming?

I agree UAPP sounds superb there isnt another app that competes including the overhyped Neutron!


Edited by cattlethief - 5/12/14 at 1:52am
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I agree UAPP sounds superb there isnt another app that competes including the overhyped Neutron!


you guys saying that UAPP alter the output sound? or what are you guys implying?

post #4679 of 5375
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Originally Posted by cattlethief View Post
 

I agree UAPP sounds superb there isnt another app that competes including the overhyped Neutron!

All I can say is that you should look at the settings in Neutron and see what's wrong woth your setup. I've used UAPP and it's got a long way to go till it equals Neutron.

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Originally Posted by zolom View Post
 

I have the LH Labs Geek Out 450mw. works fine when connected to my win7 laptop.

Currently there is an issue with Android phones (mine is S4) even with UAPP, hope it may be solved soon by a Geek firmwate update.

 

I did encounter a serious problem though:

 

  • Can you explain what's the issue with the Y-OTG cable? Is there a recommended cable to use? I do not want to have the USB hub, for better portability.

 

Thanks

If your IEM's are getting hot as in temperature, stop using the GeekOut, immediately. Get a voltmeter and see if there's a DC Voltage offset at the output of the GeekOut using the same  OTG cable and external battery. WIthout any music playing it should measure 0V. If it's at zero, you then must check the offfset while music is playing. In that case your meter may not measure DC accurately, but it's worth trying to see if there's a large offset, an oscilloscope may be required. Heating the IEMs is a sign of trouble and may damage them.

Maybe something is wrong with the cable or battery voltage is too high. Whatever it is your IEMs should NOT be hot.

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