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post #4396 of 5783

I ordered a RSA Predator to use with my Moto X phone.  What cables will I need to use with it?  thanks!

 

NM.  I ordered a usb to go cable from jds labs.  I think it's the one  I'll need.


Edited by vegasf1 - 3/24/14 at 9:46am
post #4397 of 5783

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/4335#post_10354848

A list of USB OTG cables:

http://goo.gl/4JyOe5

 

Android device > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG adapter + regular USB cable usually 

provided by the USB DAC maker >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones

http://bit.ly/JAFjGr

http://bit.ly/JBIJIT

http://amzn.to/1cZsGMN
 

post #4398 of 5783
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Originally Posted by DanBa View Post
 

A list of stock Android-powered devices reportedly interworking with standard USB DAC:

stock Android device > digital USB audio out >> standard USB DAC >> amp >> headphones

http://goo.gl/BOnMDQ

 

A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy S3:

stock Samsung Galaxy S3 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> standard USB DAC >> amp >> headphones

http://goo.gl/2fPYtk

 

A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy Note2:

stock Galaxy Note2 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> standard USB DAC >> amp >> headphones

http://goo.gl/4Nq4Y8

 

A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samung Galaxy S4:

stock Samsung Galaxy S4 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> standard USB DAC >> amp >> headphones

http://goo.gl/dIwrqp

 

A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy Note3:

stock Samsung Galaxy Note3 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> standard USB DAC >> amp >> headphones

http://goo.gl/7Bvkhz

 

A list of standard USB DAC reportedly non-interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy S3 / Note2 / S4 / Note3 using USB Audio Recorder PRO /  USB Audio Player PRO:

http://goo.gl/kHJmfE

 

A list of USB OTG cables:

http://goo.gl/4JyOe5

 

FAQ:

http://goo.gl/A4dCnP

 

The basics:

http://goo.gl/MCFY2x

You can add the Audio-gd NFB-12 (with TE7022 USB module only) working very well with the Note 3

post #4399 of 5783

This is the cable I got.  I wonder why so many of the otg cables have the full size usb female end. If I used that I would still need to get a short standard usb to mini usb cable to connect it to the amp/dac.

 

http://www.jdslabs.com/products/86/micro-to-mini-usb-otg-cable/

 

 

That hugo is so badass, but that's out of my audio budget.  I hope the predator is good enough for me.  I have other money wasting hobbies like going to the track with my car and stuff like tires and other go fast goodies cost so much.


Edited by vegasf1 - 3/25/14 at 9:05am
post #4400 of 5783
Quote:
Originally Posted by vegasf1 View Post
 

I wonder why so many of the otg cables have the full size usb female end.

 

 

Advantages of using otg cable with the full size usb female end (a.k.a. USB OTG adapter cable):

 

Android smartphone > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG adapter cable + regular USB cable usually provided by the USB DAC maker >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones

 

. less EMI: with a rather long cable (i.e. USB OTG adapter + regular USB cable usually provided by the USB DAC maker) instead of a short cable, the USB DAC can be installed rather far away from the smartphone, a source of electromagnetic interferences (EMI), so that the USB DAC can be less affected by EMI

 

. more convenient with a rather long cable to use a smartphone than a stack of smartphone+USB DAC+amp when listening music and reading ebook for example

 

. easier for testing smartphone - USB DAC interworking (cf. FAQ)

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/4335#post_10354848

 

. other usage: connect USB peripherals like USB hub, USB hard drive, USB mouse or USB keyboard.


Edited by DanBa - 3/26/14 at 1:18pm
post #4401 of 5783

JDS Labs C5D USB DAC/amp & USB Audio Player PRO (UAPP):

http://www.tellementnomade.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=217473#p217473

 

Galaxy S4 using UAPP >> USB OTG cable >> C5D >> Sennheiser HD-25 Aluminium headphones

 

 

 

post #4402 of 5783

We all know know by now that UAPP unleashes DAC support and hires playback over USB on many Android devices with support for many DACs, incl Cambridge DACMagic XS, Audioquest Firefly, iFI iDSD Nano and many more. But I cant call it a real music playing solution for me if it can only play 1 song at a time or stream songs and full albums from a network through DLNA. If that ever happens I'll be glad to pay the 6.99 Euro that I have to pay now for the full version.

 

As it stands now UAPP is nice for demoing and nothing else. 

 

Just my 2 cents.

post #4403 of 5783
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Originally Posted by dikkiedirk View Post
 

We all know know by now that UAPP unleashes DAC support and hires playback over USB on many Android devices with support for many DACs, incl Cambridge DACMagic XS, Audioquest Firefly, iFI iDSD Nano and many more. But I cant call it a real music playing solution for me if it can only play 1 song at a time or stream songs and full albums from a network through DLNA. If that ever happens I'll be glad to pay the 6.99 Euro that I have to pay now for the full version.

 

As it stands now UAPP is nice for demoing and nothing else. 

 

Just my 2 cents.

 

Wow

 

Like many users that already paid for the full version, I've been demoing UAPP to myself hour after hour and day after day for several months and I seem not to get tired of it. Not bad for a demo.

post #4404 of 5783
What do you mean it can only play one song at a time?how many songs do want playing at the same time,it carries playlist support and can shuffle songs or albums, it has turned my cheap android phone into a wonderful sounding music player with 64gig of flac some of which are hires ,not bad for£6.00 and for the record it can play some of the tracks that my mac using audirvana cannot.
post #4405 of 5783

I too find UAPP very lacking in features. If that is the only app that works for your phone, then you are stuck. But there are android smartphones that do not need the UAPP and can output audio via USB natively such as HTC One X, HTC One (both 4.2.2 & 4.4.2 stock ROMs) and LG G2 (4.2.2 stock). I heard the new Samsung galaxies are also capable, hence you can pretty much use any music app you have/need. This is the reason why I 'downgraded' my LG G2 to 4.2.2 from 4.4.2 because the USB audio out no longer works with Kitkat (only LG G2) without using UAPP/UARP.

post #4406 of 5783
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Originally Posted by lukeap69 View Post

I too find UAPP very lacking in features. If that is the only app that works for your phone, then you are stuck. But there are android smartphones that do not need the UAPP and can output audio via USB natively such as HTC One X, HTC One (both 4.2.2 & 4.4.2 stock ROMs) and LG G2 (4.2.2 stock). I heard the new Samsung galaxies are also capable, hence you can pretty much use any music app you have/need. This is the reason why I 'downgraded' my LG G2 to 4.2.2 from 4.4.2 because the USB audio out no longer works with Kitkat (only LG G2) without using UAPP/UARP.

Samsung Galaxy Note 3 here. I can use anything I want to play anything I want, no problem. I use Neutron. It's better.
post #4407 of 5783
obviously if you have one of those phones and do not want to listen to hires music you wouldn't buy it,I have also the z which can play any app,but I still prefer my £40 sonyXRay for on the go!!
Edited by cattlethief - 3/27/14 at 7:37am
post #4408 of 5783

I use Neutron too on my LG G2 & HTC One X and sometimes the stock music players.

post #4409 of 5783

A list of stock Android-powered devices reportedly interworking with standard USB DAC:

stock Android device > digital USB audio out >> standard USB DAC >> amp >> headphones

http://goo.gl/HCzW1a

 

A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy S3:

stock Samsung Galaxy S3 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> standard USB DAC >> amp >> headphones

http://goo.gl/2fPYtk

 

A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy Note2:

stock Galaxy Note2 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> standard USB DAC >> amp >> headphones

http://goo.gl/4Nq4Y8

 

A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samung Galaxy S4:

stock Samsung Galaxy S4 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> standard USB DAC >> amp >> headphones

http://goo.gl/dIwrqp

 

A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy Note3:

stock Samsung Galaxy Note3 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> standard USB DAC >> amp >> headphones

http://goo.gl/7Bvkhz

 

A list of standard USB DAC reportedly non-interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy S3 / Note2 / S4 / Note3 using USB Audio Recorder PRO /  USB Audio Player PRO:

http://goo.gl/kHJmfE

 

A list of USB OTG cables:

http://goo.gl/4JyOe5

 

FAQ:

http://goo.gl/A4dCnP

 

The basics:

http://goo.gl/MCFY2x

post #4410 of 5783

@cattlethief

 

Quote:

 

We all know know by now that UAPP unleashes DAC support and hires playback over USB on many Android devices with support for many DACs, incl Cambridge DACMagic XS, Audioquest Firefly, iFI iDSD Nano and many more. But I cant call it a real music playing solution for me if it can only play 1 song at a time or stream songs and full albums from a network through DLNA. If that ever happens I'll be glad to pay the 6.99 Euro that I have to pay now for the full version.

 

As it stands now UAPP is nice for demoing and nothing else. 

 

Just my 2 cents.

 

Quote:
 What do you mean it can only play one song at a time?how many songs do want playing at the same time,it carries playlist support and can shuffle songs or albums, it has turned my cheap android phone into a wonderful sounding music player with 64gig of flac some of which are hires ,not bad for£6.00 and for the record it can play some of the tracks that my mac using audirvana cannot.

 

dikkiedirk is referring to the lack of network support within UAPP.

 

It would be lovely for those of us who have phones with limited on board storage. Or who would simply like to carry TB's of lossless music about (streamed via wi-fi from a external hard drive using a RavPower FileHub or similar). Only solution (as yet untested) that I can see to this issue with UAPP (at present) would be to rip music (or merge existing tracks) to a single album length file...

 

Fine for those of us that haven't yet starting ripping a vast library of CD's to lossless (uh, as in myself), were there the time allowed to do so.

 

Do I recall somebody saying that Neutron (or another player) supports streaming albums/playlists over a network/Wi-Fi ? Don't much matter to me if it doesn't support hi-res, plain old 44.1/16 will do the job.

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