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Originally Posted by jellofund View Post
 

Ouch, learned an expensive lesson today re. importing to the UK. I ordered 3 usb OTG cables from Treeo using a link in DanBa's incredibly useful resource list:

 

http://store.treoo.com/main/nocturnal-audio-right-angle-mini-usb-to-right-angle-micro-usb-otg-interconnect-cable.html

 

Because of the high shipping costs on a single lead (approx. £16-17) compared to the low item cost (approx. £4 at time of purchase), I decided I may as well order 3 (either for spares or to sell on at cost price) as it made a negligible difference to the shipping costs. Total order cost £33, made up of £13 for cables and £20 for shipping.

 

Despite many years of importing goods from outwith the EU I'd always (incorrectly it seems) assumed that the value declared for customs purposes should be the price of the goods excluding shipping and that goods with such a low value would be exempt from VAT/ import duty. However, I got an invoice from the courier today asking for £26.50 in charges, made up of £11.50 VAT & a whopping £15 handling fee (cheers for that Amarex....). 

 

It seems that Treeo declared the full order value (65 Singapore dollars) for customs purposes and when I queried this with the courier they confirmed that shipping costs should indeed be included in the declared value. Seems it's a very common misconception although although I don't think any of the other places (and there have been many) I've imported from have ever added the shipping costs for customs purposes. End result £60 for 3 wee cables......eek. 

 

I should stress that I have no issues with Treeo and just wanted to make any of the EU/UK guys aware in case they had the same impression as I had.


Royal mail isn't it? When I used to live in the UK, I had the same problem. What pissed me off is the "handling fee" they charge. I sent a query on direct.gov and they advised me to tell the sender to mark the parcel with "Goods to be declared by the importer" or something like that. Most Asian sellers(ebay,aliexpress,etc) do get through this by marking it as a gift and misdeclaring the value. So no vat or handling fee is paid. 11.59gbp for VAT and 15gbp for handling is quite a lot! I thought VAT was like 12.5% + import duty, which was negligible at times. I used to pay Roya pigs/Parcelfarts 8gbp per parcel, regardless of the amount of the contents even if it's less than the handling fee itself. Bunch of pigs indeed.

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In Brazil, all import pay 78% of total amount. Lol
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I'd check the actual legislation in your country, here in NZ shipping costs are meant to be included in duties calculations.
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The LG G2 and UHA760 pairing is connected and working well.  Streaming from Google Music, the sound itself is very good.  But the intermittent pops have degraded my listening experience.

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Have you used other music player, in particular USB Audio Player PRO (UAPP)?

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Just connected a usb powered hub inbetween the DAC and RAY and now it sounds fantastic playing HIREZ 24bit FLAC truly budget setup, and not forgetting the brilliant mh1 headphones that are supplied with the RAY!

Hi cattlethief,

Just wondering whether you are able to use your Ray setup to listen to Spotify through the dac/amp?

I'm tempted to get one if I could use it with the FiiO E18 or another similar dac/amp which wouldn't need the powered hub between it and the phone.

( Spotify being my primary goal )


Edited by Q Mass - 3/22/14 at 8:39am
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Hello to all,
I'm Italian and, I'm not very good with English, I'm using Google to write, sorry ... My question is this, are holding a LG G2 I would like to update it with Kitkat, there are USB problems with our E18? Thanks
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Have you used other music player, in particular USB Audio Player PRO (UAPP)?

 

 

Well most of my music is in Google's cloud service, and with the Usb dac taking up the slot, I can't load up music through usb storage.  Also, the sound quality from the G2 is just squash compared uha760, or most any reputable source/amp.


Edited by Uchiya - 3/22/14 at 11:57am
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Originally Posted by Q Mass View Post
 

Hi cattlethief,

Just wondering whether you are able to use your Ray setup to listen to Spotify through the dac/amp?

I'm tempted to get one if I could use it with the FiiO E18 or another similar dac/amp which wouldn't need the powered hub between it and the phone.

( Spotify being my primary goal )

No I can only use the USB Audio player,when I switch to spotify or the phones player the sound switches to headphone out,I also have the Sony Z which outputs usb in spotify.The hub i used was a cheap unpowered hub,I dont need it with the Fiio E7(usb charge off in the menu) only with the stoner Accoustics DAC.

 

If you do buy a Sony Xperia Ray,stay clear of the O2 ones they wont allow an ICS update,which is required to use the OTG function.


Edited by cattlethief - 3/22/14 at 12:44pm
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Originally Posted by Uchiya View Post
 

 

Well most of my music is in Google's cloud service, and with the Usb dac taking up the slot, I can't load up music through usb storage.  Also, the sound quality from the G2 is just squash compared uha760, or most any reputable source/amp.

 

Using other means of playing music is rather to detect the cause of the abnormal "intermittent pops"'.

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Originally Posted by cattlethief View Post
 

No I can only use the USB Audio player,when I switch to spotify or the phones player the sound switches to headphone out,I also have the Sony Z which outputs usb in spotify.The hub i used was a cheap unpowered hub,I dont need it with the Fiio E7(usb charge off in the menu) only with the stoner Accoustics DAC.

 

If you do buy a Sony Xperia Ray,stay clear of the O2 ones they wont allow an ICS update,which is required to use the OTG function.


Thanks man.

Sadly it looks like the only option that'll satisfy my needs is one of the newer Sony phones like yours ( probably the Z1 compact ) but I reckon I'll have to wait about a year until it's affordable for the likes of me.

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I've read one account of one or two other G2 owners also on the thread.

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Using other means of playing music is rather to detect the cause of the abnormal "intermittent pops"'.

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I'm getting a pico or RSA predator and wanted to know what cables I'll need to connect either one of them to my Motorola moto x phone. Its running KitKat os if that means anything. Thanks!

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Links to cables or any other gear will be appreciated. I'm going away from a desktop setup that is great but cannot be used as much so I rather have a pretty good portable setup that I can use everywhere.

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Originally Posted by cattlethief View Post
 

No I can only use the USB Audio player,when I switch to spotify or the phones player the sound switches to headphone out,I also have the Sony Z which outputs usb in spotify.The hub i used was a cheap unpowered hub,I dont need it with the Fiio E7(usb charge off in the menu) only with the stoner Accoustics DAC.

 

If you do buy a Sony Xperia Ray,stay clear of the O2 ones they wont allow an ICS update,which is required to use the OTG function.


Thanks man.

Sadly it looks like the only option that'll satisfy my needs is one of the newer Sony phones like yours ( probably the Z1 compact ) but I reckon I'll have to wait about a year until it's affordable for the likes of me.


You could always try a Moto G. First off, it lacks an SD card slot. And LTE.

Otherwise it's an effective and affordable mobile Spotify with USB DAC/amp solution. The 8GB model retails unlocked for about €150 new.

Should plug and play with just about any USB DAC when running OS 4.2.2.



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