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NZ tech, you said a few pages back that the Galaxy Note 3 was your pick of best Android device for OTG/dac use.  It's a bit big and expensive for me, so wondering what your next choice or two might be?  Preferably with removable battery.   T (a lot) I A..

If you like the Note size, I'd recommend the Optimus G Pro.  As a 2013 phone, I imagine AT&T is practically giving them away now.  It does come with LG's less than optimal skin of Android 4.1.  But if you're not afraid of doing a little work on it, Cyanogenmod 11 runs brilliantly with full USB audio support.  In some ways, it's better than a Note 3.  Here's my breakdown:

 

OGP pluses:

1 - Better screen.  Overall, this is subjective.  But the OGP definitely has a sharper screen.  I'm not talking about the slightly higher pixel density.  I can still see pentile fuzzies on the Note 3, which is annoying.

2 - The absolute best notification light yet made.  With Cyanogenmod color settings it's even better.

3 - No heinous fake leather.  This is a subjective one, to be fair.  And there must be replacement back covers for the Note 3 by now.

 

Note 3 pluses:

1 - Its Snapdragon 800 processor is considerably more powerful than the 600 used in the OGP.

2 - I suspect battery life is a little better.

3 - If you care about a stylus, the OGP doesn't have one.

4 - If you only run stock roms, Samsung is much better about updates.

post #4292 of 5600
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Rooted with a custom kernel, or stock? Headphone sensitivity/impedance that you're looking to drive? Player preference? 

 

If rooted with a custom kernel, I find that the GN2 has sufficient power out of headphone jack for most portables and then some. (At 57/63 on Perseus, NEAK, or Devil Kernels, the Note 2 can drive a DT250-250 or an HD580 to respectable volumes.) In this situation, if you're using UAPP or Neutron and are using a low impedance/high sensitivity portable headphone, you probably don't need to carry the E7 at all. 

 

Otherwise, if you're running stock or are looking to drive something heavier, use the FiiO E7 over USB-OTG and rock out with UAPP. 

 

rooted, custom kernel (omega rom), headphone 30 ohm sensitivy (fidelio x1), poweramp

 

I find that the sound isnt enough when i ear through the jack of the GN2

 

The question for me is, who is the better DAC fiio e7 or GN2, or they are most likely the same ?

post #4293 of 5600
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rooted, custom kernel (omega rom), headphone 30 ohm sensitivy (fidelio x1), poweramp

 

I find that the sound isnt enough when i ear through the jack of the GN2

 

The question for me is, who is the better DAC fiio e7 or GN2, or they are most likely the same ?

 

An X1! If you're still using the stock cable: dump it. The cable is high resistance (1.8ohm)! (Get a V-Moda Audio Only Cable to replace it.) See more on Tyll's review @ InnerFidelity: http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/big-bottom-and-lively-top-philips-fidelio-x1

 

Beyond that, I didn't find much of a difference between the DACs (the WM1811 is implemented pretty well in the N2). For me, I had to change players. I loved Poweramp for its features, but I found its sound quality dull, flat, and unengaging. I used it forever though because I just couldn't give up its UI. 

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Originally Posted by AustinValentine View Post
 

 

An X1! If you're still using the stock cable: dump it. The cable is high resistance (1.8ohm)! (Get a V-Moda Audio Only Cable to replace it.) See more on Tyll's review @ InnerFidelity: http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/big-bottom-and-lively-top-philips-fidelio-x1

 

Beyond that, I didn't find much of a difference between the DACs (the WM1811 is implemented pretty well in the N2). For me, I had to change players. I loved Poweramp for its features, but I found its sound quality dull, flat, and unengaging. I used it forever though because I just couldn't give up its UI. 

 Already got the V moda cable :)

 

Which player i should get ? (hard rock, electro, dubstep, etc)

On poweramp i use the Rock EQ

post #4295 of 5600
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Originally Posted by Harghan View Post
 

 Already got the V moda cable :)

 

Which player i should get ? (hard rock, electro, dubstep, etc)

On poweramp i use the Rock EQ

 

I prefer UAPP (USB Audio Player Pro) for sound quality across the board, with USB-OTG and out of the headphone jack. On Android devices that the Play Store deems incompatible (like, for example, the original Galaxy S w/ Voodoo Sound) I prefer Neutron Player. Neutron has an annoying UI, but a lot of audio optimization capability. UAPP is just plain bare bones - no Equalizer, no Crossfeed features, no album art, no scrobbling, a single (crappy) widget and no sound settings to speak of - but it sounds clearer and cleaner than anything else I've used, with Neutron in second place. Its "austere" - completely sparse - but it sounds great.

 

If you like to tinker with your audio on the software side: Neutron. If not, UAPP.

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+1 on the UAPP!
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Samsung Galaxy Gear smartwatch: media controller

http://blog.clove.co.uk/2013/11/05/samsung-galaxy-gear-media-controller/

 

"Just thought I would share a use for the above 3 pieces of hardware.

 

My Note 3 is streaming music from Google Play Music. The Note 3 is connected via USB , using its USB Audio digital out connection to the Fiio E18. The Fiio E18 translates the digital signal from the Note 3 and then amplifies the sound into my Sennheiser headphones.

 

The sound on the Fiio E18 is turned up just a little too loud and then using the Galaxy Gear I am now controlling the media and system volume up and down dependant on how loud or quite each track is. The Gear displays the song info as well.

 

A lovely setup. And incredible sound quality too."

http://gavinsgadgets.wordpress.com/2014/02/05/samsung-note-3-galaxy-gear-and-fiio-e18-portable-usb-dacamp-home-entertainment/

 

 

 

 

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I use my Pebble with Music Boss to control the music on my Galaxy Player 4.2 and SGS4 i9505  with Jaybird bluebuds X ^_^ fully wireless.

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Don't know if this has been answered, but i want to use my android usb digital out for applications such as netflix, neutron, ect. Right now i have a note 2 that is NOT rooted and i am limited to using usb audio player pro.

How would i root my phone to allow all audio to be sent to the usb digital out to use with my centrance hifi-m8?
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Don't know if this has been answered, but i want to use my android usb digital out for applications such as netflix, neutron, ect. Right now i have a note 2 that is NOT rooted and i am limited to using usb audio player pro.

How would i root my phone to allow all audio to be sent to the usb digital out to use with my centrance hifi-m8?

 

Cannot be done AFAIK.

 

Other DAC/amps can do this though.

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Can folks with a Nexus 5 share what ROM / kernel combination they are currently running for USB audio support? I've been running DroidKang (CM11 base) for the past few months and it's damn stable with loads of good features. However it looks like the dev has gone AWOL (no updates in over a month) so I'm looking to switch, maybe to PAC -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2670238

 

Plug-n-play USB DAC support is a must. I know this was originally added via CyanogenMod so any CM11 based ROMs should work. However the vast majority of custom ROMs now seem to be AOSP based so I'm not sure if the support will be there. Would appreciate any recommendations for working USB audio ROMs that are regularly maintained.

 

Cheers,

post #4302 of 5600
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Originally Posted by kernel8888 View Post

Don't know if this has been answered, but i want to use my android usb digital out for applications such as netflix, neutron, ect. Right now i have a note 2 that is NOT rooted and i am limited to using usb audio player pro.

How would i root my phone to allow all audio to be sent to the usb digital out to use with my centrance hifi-m8?


I may not be understanding your question BUT....this is how to do Netflix on your TV using your unrooted android phone....

 

1. You must have a home WiFi network

2. Buy and set up a Google Chromecast device on your TV (about the size of a memory stick). $35

3. Download the Netflix app to your phone (also works with the You Tube app, the Pandora App and for videos saved to the phone, the Avia app) All work fine on my phone and let me watch Netflix, You Tube, Music, and video (stored on the phone) wirelessly on my TV

4. Use the phone to control the Netflix show you want to watch and cast it to the TV....

 

Simple


Edited by James1776 - 3/6/14 at 9:02pm
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Originally Posted by James1776 View Post
 


I may not be understanding your question BUT....this is how to do Netflix on your TV using your android phone....

 

1. You must have a home WiFi network

2. Buy and set up a Google Chromecast device on your TV (about the size of a memory stick). $35

3. Download the Netflix app to your phone (also works with the You Tube app, the Pandora App and for videos saved to the phone, the Avia app) All work fine on my phone and let me watch Netflix, You Tube, Music, and video (stored on the phone) wirelessly on my TV

4. Use the phone to control the Netflix show you want to watch and cast it to the TV....

 

Simple

 

He's asking how to use USB audio output for non-UAPP apps, which is not possible AFAIK for the Centrance he has.

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Sv: Review: Philips Fidelio L1 [Updated 5/14]

I have seen several reports that USB audio is now natively supported in CM11 but can't get it working on my Motorola Xoom.

I have tried with reportedly compatible hardware, Motorola Xoom + SMSL Fort (same DAC part as ELE DAC), with no luck. The Xoom doesn't seem to recognize the sound card. Trying UAPP app, it reports that the "Linux layer" recognizes the hardware, but that Android doesn't.

Has anyone got this working on a Xoom?

Any input is highly appreciated!


Edited by comrade_ix - 3/7/14 at 12:03am
post #4305 of 5600
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Originally Posted by comrade_ix View Post

Has anyone got this working on a Xoom?

 

Not using a Xoom, but I have had the same experience with a Samsung S3 on CM11, and couldn't find any way of enabling native support for USB audio.

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