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post #391 of 5242

Grokit, I actually just got one.  It definitely works.

 

So far I've been extremely impressed with its sound quality.  It creates a marvelous illusion of space, even when compared to the Pico.  Unfortunately, it's way too noisy to use with IEMs.  But I'm sufficiently impressed with it that I've ordered a $10 resistor adaptor to use with it.  Hopefully it'll drop the noise floor below an audible level without compromising anything else.

 

I'm also amazed by how good it sounds with the LCD-2s.  It has no power supply of its own.  I never would have guessed it to work at all, led alone sound good with full sizers.

 

Edit: The Headstreamer does require a firmware update before working properly with the S3.  It will otherwise only play audio at an extremely low volume.


Edited by nnotis - 9/30/12 at 9:19pm
post #392 of 5242

Hi, 

 

I'm really interested if this works with the halide bridge. Has anyone tried this?

post #393 of 5242

R: Android phones and USB DACs

I am very interested if S3 works with hiface 2 smily_headphones1.gifsmily_headphones1.gif it is xmos device.

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post #394 of 5242
AudioQuest Bumblebee Android DAC: 
 
 

 

 

 
"Designed specifically for Android devices
24-bit ESS Sabre conversion chip
Supports all music files including 24-bit/192kHz lossless
Drives headphones directly with 3.5mm mini-jack output
Fixed or Variable output modes
Asynchronous transfer for accurate digital timing
64-position (computer-controlled) analog volume control
Isolated dual master clocks
Colour changing LED to indicate source sample rate"
 
I am wondering if the AudioQuest Bumblebee Android DAC is a standard self-powered USB DAC or an Android-specific USB DAC.
 
The AudioQuest Bumblebee should be likely an AudioQuest DragonFly with built-in rechargeable battery, because it "supports all music files including 24-bit/192kHz lossless".
 
And an Android-specific USB DAC can support only 16-bit/44.1kHz:
 
 
If the AudioQuest Bumblebee is a standard USB DAC, while using with a PC or a Mac, the sound quality of the AudioQuest Bumblebee should be superior to the sound quality of the AudioQuest DragonFly thanks to a clean battery power.

Edited by DanBa - 9/30/12 at 5:02am
post #395 of 5242

A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy S III:

 

stock Samsung Galaxy S III > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (micro-A plug inserted in the S III) >> standard USB DAC >> amp >> headphones

 

 

. AMB Labs Gamma2:

http://www.amb.org/audio/gamma2/

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27247705&postcount=279

 

. Asus Xonar U3 (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.asus.com/Multimedia/Audio_Cards/Xonar_U3/

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/429589-Samsung-Galaxy-S3?s=1a313fae4795a9a7493a6ce0f677ca8e&p=8551119&viewfull=1#post8551119

 

. Behringer UCA202 (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/UCA202.aspx

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/240#post_8654226

 

. Behringer UCA222 (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.behringer.com/en/Products/UCA222.aspx

http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f6-dac-digital-analog-conversion/usb-audio-enabled-android-powered-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-12338/#post171651

 

. Beresford Caiman:

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/audio-visual/hi-fi-and-audio/hi-fi-accessories/beresford-caiman-673787/review

http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f6-dac-digital-analog-conversion/usb-audio-enabled-android-powered-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-12338/#post171651

 

. C-Media chipset-based sound card Dynamode 7 channel USB 2.0 (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.chinacomputerparts.com/d-p1140199199635616900-cables/

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27604946&postcount=449

 

. Cakewalk Sonar SPS 25:

https://www.cakewalk.com/support/kb/reader.aspx/2007013101

http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f6-dac-digital-analog-conversion/usb-audio-enabled-android-powered-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-12338/#post171651

 

. Corsair HS1 Gaming headset (USB DAC/amp/headphones):

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3989/corsair-hs1-gaming-headset

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27238117#post27238117

 

. FiiO E7 (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.headfonia.com/fiio-e7-portable-dac/

http://www.androidnz.net/2012/07/galaxy-s-iii-real-user-review-part-2.html

 

. Furutech ADL Cruise (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.furutech.com/a2008/product2.asp?prodNo=399

http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson-dac-confirmed-for-galaxy-s3/585#post_8567838

 

. GoVibe DAC:

http://jaben.net/forums/index.php?topic=2824.0

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2440879&st=500&p=53317360&#entry53317360

 

. GoVibe Mini USB DAC:

http://www.jaben.com.au/collections/go-vibe/products/govibe-minidac

http://www.head-fi.org/t/614111/finally-digital-out-for-galaxy-siii/15#post_8525675

 

. GoVibe Petite (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.head-fi.org/t/290711/govibe-petite-dac-amp-appreciation-thread-pics-little-update

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs-how-to-increase-the-issues-priority-with-google/195#post_8552452

 

. HRT HeadStreamer (USB DAC/amp):

http://highresolutiontechnologies.com/headstreamer

http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson-dac-confirmed-for-galaxy-s3/750#post_8677483

 

. HRT Music Streamer II:

http://highresolutiontechnologies.com/music-streamer-ii

http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson-dac-confirmed-for-galaxy-s3/465#post_8534856

 

. HeadAmp Pico (USB DAC/amp): (Exynos-based S III connected to Pico via USB 2.0 hub)

http://www.headamp.com/pico/pico_dac_amp/index.htm

http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson-dac-confirmed-for-galaxy-s3/480#post_8539705

http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson-dac-confirmed-for-galaxy-s3/750#post_8688938

http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson-dac-confirmed-for-galaxy-s3/720#post_8638606

 

. HeadRoom Total BitHead (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.headphone.com/learning-center/bithead-faq.php

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs-how-to-increase-the-issues-priority-with-google/135#post_8527516

 

. HeadStage USB DAC cable:

http://www.inearmatters.net/2010/04/short-review-headstage-usb-dac-cable.html

http://www.headphiles.org/index.php/topic,4452.msg241979.html#msg241979

 

. HiFiMan Express HM-101:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/571330/hifiman-express-brand-and-hm-101-portable-usb-dac

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27284184&postcount=291

 

. iBasso D-Zero (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.ibasso.com/en/products/show.asp?ID=73

http://neutronmp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=314&start=20#p1636

 

. iBasso D2 Boa (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.ibasso.com/en/products/show.asp?ID=30

http://www.head-fi.org/t/552014/pictures-of-your-portable-rig-part-xv/5535#post_8509186

 

. iBasso D2+ Boa (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.ibasso.com/en/products/show.asp?ID=42

http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f6-dac-digital-analog-conversion/usb-audio-enabled-android-powered-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-12338/#post171651

 

. iBasso D5 (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.head-fi.org/t/556490/ibasso-d5-hj-yet-another-usb-dac-amp

http://www.head-fi.org/t/614111/finally-digital-out-for-galaxy-siii#post_8462693

 

. iBasso D10 (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.ibasso.com/en/products/show.asp?ID=39

http://www.head-fi.org/t/628374/samsung-galaxy-s3-to-dac-usb-micro-b-male-to-mini-b-male#post_8735134

 

. iBasso D12 (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.ibasso.com/en/products/show.asp?ID=63

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29069294&postcount=924

 

. iQube v2 (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.i-qube.nl/index.php?id=24

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?s=6fe26080d10769d0f785157c83e74465&p=31207282&postcount=1268

 

. KingRex UD-01:

http://www.kingrex.co.uk/dac.html

https://www.facebook.com/headfonia/posts/352787358128700

 

. Leckerton UHA-6S MKII (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.leckertonaudio.com/products/uha-6s-mkii/

http://www.head-fi.org/t/602493/new-leckerton-uha-6s-mkii-portable-headphone-amplifier-announced-update-user-impressions-added-july-20th-2012/435#post_8698006

 

. Microsoft Philips Digital Sound System 80 (USB DAC/amp/speakers):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Sound_System_80

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1703218

 

. NuForce Icon HDP (USB DAC/preamp/amp):

http://www.nuforce.com/hp/products/iconhdp/index.php

http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson-dac-confirmed-for-galaxy-s3/585#post_8567838

 

. Objective DAC (ODAC):

http://epiphany-acoustics.co.uk/our-products/e-dac-24bit-miniature-usb-dac/

http://www.jdslabs.com/item.php?fetchitem=46

http://www.headnhifi.com/index.php/shop/objective/odac

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/315#post_8707637

 

. ODAC+O2 (USB DAC/amp):

http://epiphany-acoustics.co.uk/our-products/ehp-o2d-miniature-desktop-headphone-amplifier-with-usb-dac/

http://www.jdslabs.com/item.php?fetchitem=48

http://www.headnhifi.com/index.php/shop/objective/o2120527192048

http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=410941392302962&id=164588276945555

 

. Ordnance .25 (USB DAC/amp):

http://jaben.net/forums/index.php?topic=9984.0

http://www.head-fi.org/t/614111/finally-digital-out-for-galaxy-siii#post_8462693

 

. RSA Predator (USB DAC/amp):

http://www.raysamuelsaudio.com/products/predator

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/150#post_8538933

 

. Stoner Acoustics UD100:

http://stoneracoustics.blogspot.fr/

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2452730&st=160&p=54596977&#entry54596977

 

. Syba SD-AUD20101: (optical S/PFIF capable)

http://www.sybausa.com/productInfo.php?iid=1191

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/375#post_8736082

 

. Topping D1 Mark 2 (USB DAC/amp):

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=zh-TW%7Cen&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&u=http://www.tpdz.net/produce.asp%3Fid%3D25&usg=ALkJrhhte1Q6A1NnVWodszs9J4x85vGfDg

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28673076&postcount=871

 

. Topping TP30 (USB DAC/amp):

http://news.cnet.com/8300-5_3-0.html?keyword=Topping+TP-30

http://www.androidnz.net/2012/05/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-usb-audio.html

 

. VentureCraft Go-Dap X (USB DAC/amp):

http://venturecraft.jp/gadget_en/index.php

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/315#post_8708233

 

. xDuoo XP-1 (USB DAC/amp):

http://translate.google.fr/translate?hl=fr&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.xduoo.com%2Fxduoo%2FProductShow.asp%3FID%3D47

http://translate.google.fr/translate?tl=en&sl=zh-CN&u=http://www.erji.net/read.php%3Ftid%3D1320392%26page%3De&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dxduoo%2Busb%2Bdac%26hl%3Dfr%26biw%3D910%26bih%3D436%26prmd%3Dimvns&sa=X&ei=4GxdUKTrIaal0AXmr4HoDQ&sqi=2&ved=0CCcQ7gEwAA

post #396 of 5242
Quote:
Originally Posted by DanBa View Post

AudioQuest Bumblebee Android DAC: 
 
If the AudioQuest Bumblebee is a standard USB DAC, while using with a PC or a Mac, the sound quality of the AudioQuest Bumblebee should be superior to the sound quality of the AudioQuest DragonFly thanks to a clean battery power.

 

Why are pictures of the DragonFly shown, just not ready for primetime?  I'm wondering if the Bumblebee will also have a microusb connector (maybe not a good idea for durability)?

 

I recently picked up a GNex so I'm somewhat curious about this... not a fan of the headphone out on it and have a Dragonfly which I run out of my MBA and totally love.


Edited by bobeau - 9/30/12 at 11:39am
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Edited by bobeau - 9/30/12 at 11:36am
post #398 of 5242
Does anybody know whether any USB DAC has the ability to play asynchronously? Specifically I'm referring to a DAC such as the HRT Musicstreamer II. It plays asynchronously in Windows but it makes the Windows machine clock act as a slave.
It looks like the Bumblebee will support it but it won't work with Windows.


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Edited by headfinoob - 9/30/12 at 12:14pm
post #399 of 5242

HRT Musicstreamer II Transfer Protocol: asynchronous

 

http://highresolutiontechnologies.com/music-streamer-ii#prods

post #400 of 5242

http://www.amazon.com/Micro-Cable-Samsung-i9300-Galaxy/dp/B008TKLOOE/ref=sr_1_25?ie=UTF8&qid=1349034963&sr=8-25&keywords=usb+otg

 

will this cable work with my S3 to ouput usb dac ???

post #401 of 5242
Quote:

yes if your firmware is supported(in case you use custom rom) + if the dac support it should work

post #402 of 5242
The Bumblebee will be DAC only? That seems odd; is there a physical space limitation that prevents the addition of an amp like the Dragonfly's? I suppose I'm not familiar enough with the tech involved to understand the advantage of the Bumblebee over the Dragonfly. In a GS3+Dragonly+IEM/headphone like chain, the DF seems to nice occupy the price bracket between the Fiio E6 and the RSA Shadow for tiny, low-profile audio solutions.
post #403 of 5242

The ESS Sabre chip of the Bumblebee has the adjustable output level feature:

http://www.esstech.com/PDF/ES9023%20PB%20Rev%200.2aPB%20110117.pdf

 

Apparently the Bumblebee, using this feature, should be a USB HID (Human Interface Device) to allow Volume Up/Down Control from a USB host like the Galaxy S3.

 

 

However without proper USB HID volume control, a player software of  the Galaxy S3 can adjust the output level "by multiplying the each successive word in the original signal data stream by a coefficient that is less than one. For example, if the incoming signal is multiplied by a coefficient of 0.5, the output will be half of the original value. This corresponds with a volume reduction of 6 dB. In a binary system, a reduction of 6 dB is the same as shifting the signal towards the least significant bit by one bit", hence a theoretical loss of resolution.
 
About digital volume control:
 
 
The Stoner Acoustics UD100 includes the ESS Sabre chip, but doesn't implement a USB HID volume control:
 
stock Galaxy S3 > digital USB audio out >> UD100 >> Sennheiser IE80
 
 

 

 

"yup, without amp.
i control the volume on winamp, although TS did mention there would be loss in quality but i seriously cant hear the difference.......still very good"
 
"sgs3 > UD100 > ath-ck100 
volume level is sufficient, no amp required."
 
 
post #404 of 5242

any news for the S2? =(

post #405 of 5242
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dyaems View Post

any news for the S2? =(

Yea, if the Bumblebee turns out as well as it should, everyone with Jelly Bean will have access to extremely high end digital audio.  I can't wait to get back to Paranoid JB.  Though, the latest "Essential" version of Foxhound on the S3 is absolutely brilliant.

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