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post #3691 of 5599

Hey everyone, 

 

Just thought I would let you know that I am running my ODAC out of my HTC One playing FLAC files and everything appears pretty sweet. I'm using Poweramp and some PSB M4U2s. 4.3 is installed on this device as well, it's all just stock. 

 

In fact it's a bit too sweet, I am genuinely gobsmacked at the sound quality coming out of this set up. If ten years ago someone had told me you could get portable(ish) sound of this quality.... out of a phone.... I would have laughed in their face.

 

I just set this up to see what it would sound like and if everything worked properly so I don't have an all in one cable or anything, so there's wires everywhere but after this listening test I am considering going down that road. 

 

I think we're pretty lucky to be living in this day and age :). I seem to find myself thinking that every day lately.

post #3692 of 5599
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Originally Posted by rdlhifi View Post
 

 

Hi DanielP

 

Can I please ask you what version of the Nexus 7 (2013) you own? (the wifi only or the 4g?)

Reason I ask is because there are 2 versions of the rom available for download :confused: , and was considering buying the new Nexus 7 for Caraudio duties, using the USB Audio out with a Behringer UCA202.

Thank You very much in advance

Daniel

 

Hey.  This was with a Wi-Fi only model.  

 

Just to reiterate (and to dot my i's); stock software for the 2013 Nexus 7 does not currently support USB audio.  To get this feature, on this device - unofficial, unsupported, software (Cyanogenmod 11, as of nightly 20131212) is necessary.  

 

Good luck with your car setup, that sounds like it'd be awesome!

post #3693 of 5599
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Originally Posted by DanBa View Post
 

 

I heartily encourage you or someone to create a list of USB DAC supported by CyanogenMod.

I will restrict myself to stock flagship smartphones: most people used to use stock devices, and Samsung’s flagship smartphones are most popular at the moment.

And I personnally avoid using devices like Nexus devices that don’t have an external memory card slot to store my preferred music so that it can be accessible anywhere, anytime.

 

I actually think there shouldn't be a list of DAC's supported by CM, simply because putting CM on your phone involves unlocking bootloader and what not, and IMHO, if someone comes here trying to find out if their phone (or a phone) will work with their USB DAC, but not stock ,they should ask, learn and research before doing something like unlocking the bootloader and rooting, including plenty of reading on XDA.

 

I think DanBa's list as is is great and well-appreciated, except, as I've mentioned before, the suggestion that I think the list should take into account different versions of phones.  It's not enough to simply say "stock Note 2" supports something because there are different versions of "stock Note 2", some with different CPUs, and depending on which version you have, you may not have the functionality the list says you should if you have "stock Note 2."

post #3694 of 5599

Each compliant USB DAC has a link to the source of reporting information.

If the source text doesn’t mention the version of the O.S. of the Android device, it (as well as other information) could be asked by interested people.

Hopefully, people, who report the interworking, will include a maximum of information.

 

Usually, if an Android device is mentioned working with a USB DAC, this Android device running on the latest version of O.S. should work with this USB DAC due to upward compatibility practices.

 

Concerning different behaviors of Android device having different System on Chip (SoC), as far as I know there is only "one" case: the Galaxy S3 / Note2 with Snapdragon have apparently some interworking issue with the FiiO E07K. So, "to be confirmed" is added.

post #3695 of 5599

USB Audio Player PRO (test version with cover art, playlists) is working on my setup (Galaxy Note 3 using UAPP >> ODAC >> Neco V3 amp >> Mad Dog headphones).

 

 

 

 

Same great sound quality than USB Audio Recorder PRO, i.e. the best sound quality music player to my ears for the time being!

post #3696 of 5599

Is there a test group via Google+ and the Play store or so to help test this?

post #3697 of 5599
Any thoughts on when the Audio Player PRO will be available to us regular poor souls?
post #3698 of 5599

eXtream will surely give us some news about that.

 

 

Native USB audio & eXtream USB audio:

 

 

 

I am wondering if the great sound quality of USB Audio Recorder PRO / USB Audio Player PRO is due to the "source direct" architecture like the audiophile Audirvana music player for Mac OS X.

http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/players/4.html

http://www.amr-audio.co.uk/html/dp777_tech-papers_OSX-Integermode.html

 

 

 

post #3699 of 5599
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Originally Posted by DanielP View Post
 

 

Hey.  This was with a Wi-Fi only model.  

 

Just to reiterate (and to dot my i's); stock software for the 2013 Nexus 7 does not currently support USB audio.  To get this feature, on this device - unofficial, unsupported, software (Cyanogenmod 11, as of nightly 20131212) is necessary.  

 

Good luck with your car setup, that sounds like it'd be awesome!


Thanks for the promt Reply ;)

 

Sadly, I keep reading endless Posts about Owners complaining for Touchscreen and Gps Issues in the Nexus 7 (2013) :( AND I WAS SO EXCITED TO FIND IT ON SALE IN MY COUNTRY!

Guess I've to change Brand and/or Model?

post #3700 of 5599
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Originally Posted by peter123 View Post

Any thoughts on when the Audio Player PRO will be available to us regular poor souls?

 

I really hope to release it just before Christmas, but it's going to be a close call.

post #3701 of 5599
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Originally Posted by eXtream View Post
 

 

I really hope to release it just before Christmas, but it's going to be a close call.

Davy,

 

It will be a great Christmas gift (Well a purchase)

 

Please take our money:biggrin:.

 

Thank you for the great work.

post #3702 of 5599
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Originally Posted by turokrocks View Post

Davy,

It will be a great Christmas gift (Well a purchase)

Please take our money:D .

Thank you for the great work.

+1
post #3703 of 5599

Re: The Motorola Moto G.

 

There has been a bit of discussion on here about the Moto G working with Dacs ( or not ).

 

I've just bought one ( my 1st smartphone ) and I have tried it with an Audinst HUD-MX2 which it does not work with.  I have a Stereolink USB dac which it works with in a fashion but there is something wrong in that it sounds as if it's being played ever so slightly slow ( bit like the old pitch controls on some cassette players/recorders being reduced   - if you remember them ! ) and there are regular jumps in the sound as if it's suddenly realised it needs to catch up so it just misses out a bit of the stream ! -  Not really listenable to, in my opinion.

 

I also have a couple of USB sound card/adapters - a Behringer UCA202 and an Edirol UA-1EX and it does exactly the same with those as with the Stereolink, so in my experience it does not work satisfactorily with dacs.

 

I understand we should get updated to 4.4 ( Kitkat ? ) next month so I will try again after that to see if it makes any difference.

 

Apart from that, it appears to be a very good phone for the money. The audio out of the 3.5mm jack is not bad either although not quite up to the sound from my Samsung tablet.

 

Don't forget, though, that it does not have a micro SD card slot although I can confirm that it will work with a 32gb USB drive connected with a OTG adapter.

 

Hope that helps anyone pondering on a possible purchase.

post #3704 of 5599
A similar observation on the moto g was made by a guy on xda. The sound was messed up in some way (pitch, etc.), but it was fine with UARP. Maybe KitKat will fix it?
post #3705 of 5599

JDS Labs C5D headphone amp+DAC & Google Nexus v1:

http://www.headfonia.com/jdslabs-portable-dac-the-jdslabs-c5d/

 

Nexus v1 using USB Audio Recorder PRO >> JDS Labs USB OTG cable >> JDS Labs C5D USB DAC/amp >> headphones

 

 

"A short, micro-to-mini USB OTG cable. This cable allows direct connection of a mini-USB DAC to most Android devices."

http://www.jdslabs.com/products/86/micro-to-mini-usb-otg-cable/

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