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post #3676 of 5375
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Originally Posted by DanielP View Post
 

cm-11 nightly (20131209) did not support native playback over USB.  I can confirm though, that cm-11 nightly (20131212) does support native USB audio as well as hot-plugging on the 2013 Nexus 7 too.

 

Hi DanielP

 

Can I please ask you what version of the Nexus 7 (2013) you own? (the wifi only or the 4g?)

Reason I ask is because there are 2 versions of the rom available for download :confused: , and was considering buying the new Nexus 7 for Caraudio duties, using the USB Audio out with a Behringer UCA202.

Thank You very much in advance

Daniel

post #3677 of 5375

I think this is known, but I have a Nexus 7(2013) wifi. Just put the 4.4.2 software on it. When I take my USB OTG stack (ODAC amp) which works on my Note 2, and plug it into the Nexus, it don't work, nothing, zero, zilch, nada. Odds are CM11 will get there ahead of the, not holding my breath on the official ROMs.


Edited by Toe Tag - 12/13/13 at 7:29pm
post #3678 of 5375
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Originally Posted by pappy97 View Post
 

 

Moto G and Moto X already have native USB Audio support, it's been verified here.  That's the frustrating thing, they are so close to pure Google and yet pure Google doesn't/won't provide the native support.  Kondik figured it out, Google's own company Motorola figured it out, so why not Google?  SMH


Haven't followed the whole thread so sorry if it's been answered, but if that's the case, why does a device like the AQ Dragonfly not work natively with the Moto X? I'm assuming it has something to do with the DAC itself because several other DACs work perfectly fine with the Moto X. I've tested the Headamp Pico and the Apogee Mini-DAC, both work perfectly with the X.

post #3679 of 5375

I am a very pleased man!

Sony Xperia SP (using JetAudio Plus) -> Samsung USB OTG -> Standard usb-to-microusb -> Hegel Super

 

Works with every other application (Youtube, Sony Walkoman) etc as well!

post #3680 of 5375

I've got a few DAC/amps, the audio quest Dragonfly doesn't work with stock android on the Samsung s3 but does with USB recorder pro, I've got a ud110 on the way which as far as I've told the version 2  is fully s3 compatible, will confirm.


Edited by fuzzy1969 - 12/14/13 at 6:40am
post #3681 of 5375
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Originally Posted by Toe Tag View Post
 

I think this is known, but I have a Nexus 7(2013) wifi. Just put the 4.4.2 software on it. When I take my USB OTG stack (ODAC amp) which works on my Note 2, and plug it into the Nexus, it don't work, nothing, zero, zilch, nada. Odds are CM11 will get there ahead of the, not holding my breath on the official ROMs.


Excuse me Toe Tag, English is not my Mother Language :(

From what I understood, You have the Wifi version, so I will buy THAT VERSION. ok. thats fine.

Later you stated "Just put the 4.4.2 software on it"...

MY QUESTION IS: SHOULD I INSTALL THE 4.4.2 SOFTWARE AND THEN THE CM NIGHTLY 2013/12/12 ? :confused: OR ONLY THE CM? from what is my understanding, the N7 ships here with Android 4.3. OR IS THE NIGHTLY YOU USED ONLY COMPATIBLE WITH 4.4.2?

 

FYI: My sole Intention is to use the N7 with my USB Dac (Behringer UCA202) in my Caraudio System, and your previous Statement of having your N7 working in USB Audio mode after installing the above mentioned Nightly inspired my Curiosity...and Desire ;) of buying the same Tablet.

Oh boy, I should NOT surf Foreign language Websites...but then again, I'm learning so much with it!

 

Again, sorry for any trouble

Sincerely

Daniel

post #3682 of 5375

@rdlhifi I can say this right away, there seems to be some confusion. You either use stock Android from Google (4.4.2) OR you root your device and start installing CyanogenMod "CM11" firmwares. It was not my post that mentioned CM11, I have not done that yet. (I say "start installing" because there is a new CM11 nightly. It has not yet reached "stable" or "release" quality (by their own internal standards). But for many, they feel its stable enough, and once you get good at it, its gets easier and easier to update your CM daily or weekly.)


Edited by Toe Tag - 12/14/13 at 9:31pm
post #3683 of 5375

Since the CM11 implementation of USB audio now seems to be reliable and consistent, maybe the list maintained by DanBa should include a section like "USB DACs 100% working on Nexus devices with CM11" until such time as Google get their **** together on this and add support to base Android? This way, any DACs not working with a known-good CM11 build on a known-good Nexus devices could themselves be deemed non-standard, perhaps requiring additional drivers or whatever. This would also be helpful for guesstimating which DACs would be more likely to work with non-Nexus, non-CM devices.

 

Bear in mind there's another element to it as well -- does the stock Nexus 7 support basic USB peripherals (try a mouse)? If it does, the next thing to try is a memory stick or SD card reader with StickMount or Nexus Media Importer. It may be that on some devices CyanogenMod is doing more than just adding audio device support -- it may be fixing a broken or half assed USB OTG implementation too.


Edited by TrancerSte - 12/14/13 at 9:29pm
post #3684 of 5375

where can I get an LOD cable that I can use my Sony Walkman F806 with the E18's DAC?

post #3685 of 5375
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where can I get an LOD cable that I can use my Sony Walkman F806 with the E18's DAC?

Don't think that is possible. Sony wm-port is an analog line out, not digital. As such the player only can pair with an amp. Not sure if there is digital out on the sony F series player.
post #3686 of 5375
Just been playing with a few things in the audio store and can confirm the iBasso D-Zero also works with Nexus 5 / CM11
post #3687 of 5375
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Originally Posted by TrancerSte View Post
 

Since the CM11 implementation of USB audio now seems to be reliable and consistent, maybe the list maintained by DanBa should include a section like "USB DACs 100% working on Nexus devices with CM11" until such time as Google get their **** together on this and add support to base Android? This way, any DACs not working with a known-good CM11 build on a known-good Nexus devices could themselves be deemed non-standard, perhaps requiring additional drivers or whatever. This would also be helpful for guesstimating which DACs would be more likely to work with non-Nexus, non-CM devices.

 

 

I heartily encourage you or someone to create a list of USB DAC supported by CyanogenMod.

I will restrict myself to stock flagship smartphones: most people used to use stock devices, and Samsung’s flagship smartphones are most popular at the moment.

And I personnally avoid using devices like Nexus devices that don’t have an external memory card slot to store my preferred music so that it can be accessible anywhere, anytime.

post #3688 of 5375
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Originally Posted by Toe Tag View Post
 

...It was not my post that mentioned CM11, I have not done that yet. (I say "start installing" because there is a new CM11 nightly. ...

 

Ok, sorry again.

 

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Originally Posted by DanBa View Post
 

 

I heartily encourage you or someone to create a list of USB DAC supported by CyanogenMod...

 

I will restrict myself to stock flagship smartphones: most people used to use stock devices...

First off, I'm really gratefull DanBa to provide Us Your List of compatible USB-Dac's! :beyersmile: In fact, i dived in USB Audioland from there on, and enjoy my Music Collection even more since then!

Secondly, a list with CM supported USB Dacs would be really Interesting (and usefull) to all serious Music Aficionados...Hope someone consider to step in...

 

Lastly: DanBa, please continue to Update Your Stock Devices/ Dacs Support List! Thank You again

cheers

Daniel

post #3689 of 5375

Galaxy Note 3 & car audio:

 

Galaxy Note 3 >> HRT microStreamer >> JBL MS-8 DSP/amp

 

 

post #3690 of 5375

Could you guys summarize a bit everything said in this post for newbies (maybe on the first post?).

I received my new android smartphone (Wiki Cink Peax 2), running on android 4.1.2. I also have a little dot DAC, and would like to use the phone as DAP (maybe with a fiio dac/amp).

I am reading pages and pages of this topic for hours now and still didn't find answers to my questions :p

Maybe someone can help me out:

-is USB audio recorder PRO a must for some smartphones? Are there some newer android versions that can be used as DAP where you only need to plug the USB cable with every music app you want and some olders versions needing USB audio recorder PRO. (I would try, but the app costs 5€ and I don't want to waste money!)

-With the right android/dac, are there any configurations needed or do it just work like that?

-Is it sometimes worth upgrading rom? Can you give some example of android versions working, not working, working semi-well etc? 

Thanks!

 

EDIT: So in my case, android don't work with DAC when I plug it in. How can I know what to do? Other DAC? Other rom? Other OTG cable? Other android app?

 

EDIT 2: Wiki Cink Peax 2 working as DAP with USB audio recorder PRO and .flac file!


Edited by stygmata - 12/16/13 at 7:15am
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