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post #3556 of 5134
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Originally Posted by eXtream View Post

There is likely going to be a public beta to gather as much bug reports as possible before release. I am now trying to get Android's MediaCodec to work for all things other than wav/flac/ogg/mp3, like m4a and whatever your device supports. Probably not so important for HiFi, but anyway.

Do you envisage DSD support? Would be amazing, particularly if you have a DSD capable dac. Anyway, I enjoy using UARP on a regular basis, thanks for that great product and looking forward to uapp.

Cheers
post #3557 of 5134

Awesome, thanks, I'll stay subscribed. I've seen UARP in the Play store, but I didn't connect the acronym with the name. Maybe I'll be the first to use the S4/audio-gd combo. 

 

I'd also love to find a way to use my phone via USB to the Audison BitOne DSP in my car. It can accept an optical input or a coax input, and has an onboard DAC. Maybe that's a different discussion for a different thread.

post #3558 of 5134
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Originally Posted by headfinoob View Post


If you're interested in feature requests, it would be absolutely amazing if the app could be used as a standard player so that files could be browsed with ES File or similar and opened with UAPP. Ideally, it could be used with BubbleUPnP. I have found BubbleUPnP to be the best for me for allowing a large media collection to be available for playback on Android. Do you think the implementation is capable of those features or does it all have to be operated within the app like UARP?

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You would be able to choose UAPP as player when selecting a file in ES File Explorer, but I doubt another app can interact with BubbleUPnP, but admittedly I don't know that software.

post #3559 of 5134

Thanks Davy for your early Christmas Gift!

post #3560 of 5134

Guys, I think I've just hit on something that is gonna change my life.  Maybe I'm over-exaggerating, but oh well.  Anyone familiar with Tonido?  I just used it to be able to carry around (have to access to, to be precise) my entire FLAC connection and with my Nexus 5 rocking USB Audio support via unofficial CM11, play any FLAC from my FLAC connection anywhere I have data via USB DAC.

 

Tonido is a free server you install to your PC, point it to your media folders, and there is a corresponding free app for android and iOS that streams media, including FLACS.  It has its own player in the app.  You can also use the service to download stuff to your phone too, but with limited storage, I'm looking for a way to have near instant access to all my FLACS and play them on demand and use a USB DAC too.

 

Today I installed the Tonido server to my HTPC, which is always on at home, has all my FLACs.  I then installed the Tonido app to the Nexus 5.  Went out and about, plugged in my USB DAC, fired up the Tonido app, logged in, and was able to access any FLAC in my collection and play them near-instantly.  Most of the time, the song started as quickly as a google play song does for me out and about.  Needless to say, I was giddy beyond belief!!

 

Where I need help is, I don't know exactly if Tonido is doing a pure stream or some kind of transcode.  I don't believe it is a transcode, but I can't test for sure.  I know others here have equipment/DACs that can test to see what the output is from Tonido app over USB Audio. (It sounded great to my ears, I will say that.)

 

Besides that, the caveats here are related to your setup.  At home our internet has 35 megabits upload, no cap.  My phone is on T-Mobile with their highest price unlimited data plan and I live in an area with good to great LTE coverage.  If I don't have data, can't do this FLAC streaming BUT if I know I am going to be on a plane or something, I can always download a few albums to my device and listen locally.  The player in Tonido is fairly basic too, but still, IMHO, is better than UARP.  All in all, this could be it IF Tonido via USB Audio is not transcoding the FLAC down to an MP3 or something and you have no concerns about data.  Check it out. (I should add Tonido 100% free for our purposes.  It is technically freemium, but that is the sense that they have for-pay business accounts)

 

http://www.tonido.com/


Edited by pappy97 - 11/30/13 at 2:01pm
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I think there are various software dlna and upnp or metwork related as Bubble upnp or Tonido.
To me bubble upnp remain the best.
We have only one software as UAPP or uarp.
Ciao
Edited by gattari - 11/30/13 at 2:12pm
post #3562 of 5134
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Originally Posted by earthtodan View Post
 

Awesome, thanks, I'll stay subscribed. I've seen UARP in the Play store, but I didn't connect the acronym with the name. Maybe I'll be the first to use the S4/audio-gd combo. 

 

I'd also love to find a way to use my phone via USB to the Audison BitOne DSP in my car. It can accept an optical input or a coax input, and has an onboard DAC. Maybe that's a different discussion for a different thread.

Try this:

http://www.amazon.com/Musical-Fidelity-V-LINK-Asynchronous-Converter/dp/B00718X2TU

 

If people can use it for getting USB Audio from iPad to their Audison BitOne, if you can pass USB Audio from your phone, it should work the same way, http://www.head-fi.org/t/507559/list-of-dacs-that-work-with-ipad/705

post #3563 of 5134
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Originally Posted by gattari View Post

I think there are various software dlna and upnp related as Bubble upnp or Tonido.
To me bubble upnp remain the best.
We have only one software as UAPP or uarp.
Ciao

 

Have you tried Tonido?  Haven't seen anyone mention it in this thread.  I'm curious what people think of Tonido and also what Tonido is actually outputting via USB Audio.

 

Also, the Tonido app doesn't seem to have the limitations the free Bubble app as.  Nor have I seen any ads on the Tonido app.  But I'm not trying to make it a Tonido v. Bubble debate, just calling people's attention to Tonido and trying to get some info.  Thanks.


Edited by pappy97 - 11/30/13 at 2:15pm
post #3564 of 5134
Tonido is actually outputting via USB Audio......

In my note 3 any sound player app is capable to outputting usb audio, I think also in your nexus 5 with cm11 you have usb output capacity with any apps.
I'm wrong?
Ciao



 
post #3565 of 5134
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Originally Posted by gattari View Post

Tonido is actually outputting via USB Audio......

 

 

I don't think you understand my question.  I know that Tonido is outputting via USB Audio.  I've used it myself, which is why I am happy.  My question is what EXACTLY is Tonido outputting?

 

1.) When I choose to play a FLAC on my phone through Tonido with the Tonido player, is Tonido taking that FLAC from my PC and transcoding it into an MP3 and then outputting?

 

2.) If the answer to #1 is that the Tonido app is simply playing/streaming the FLAC with no transcoding, I have some 24/96 FLAC songs. When I am playing those via Tonido and being output via USB Audio, I am getting 24 bit output or is it being downrezzed to 16 bit?  Is that question device-specific?

 

Thanks.

post #3566 of 5134
Ok your question was clear to me.
I have a note 3 and the only android apps that have a 24 bit 96 khz usb output is uarp, this happens with my asus one muses.
Even if Tonido is capable of a correct streaming of 24 bit flac, I doubt your phone get out more than 16 bit.
Pardon my english
post #3567 of 5134

Tonido doesn't detect any files on my phone. Do I need to create an account and connect with my PC for it to work?

post #3568 of 5134

Just tried UARP with Audioengine D3 and it worked! However, I only have one flac file on my phone with the rest MP3. Also it was obviously not a music player app, as turning off the screen stopped the playback. Definitely excited for the new UAPP app! Sign me up for the beta if possible!

post #3569 of 5134

Is there an easy way to tell if these super cheap knockoff Android tablets have USB audio output? There are going to be a ton of them on sale this weekend.

post #3570 of 5134
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Originally Posted by z0rz View Post
 

Is there an easy way to tell if these super cheap knockoff Android tablets have USB audio output? There are going to be a ton of them on sale this weekend.

Check if they are on DanielP's list. If not, take your USB DAC into the store with a cable and ask them to let you test. Then report back to DanielP both positive and negative results.

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