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post #31 of 88
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Originally Posted by Sorensiim View Post



How are your buffer settings configured in Asio4All?



I´m using the default settings.

 

 

post #32 of 88



 

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Originally Posted by melosoares View Post

 

http://www.foobar2000.org/components/view/foo_out_asio

 

 



 

Thanks for the head's up melosares.

post #33 of 88

Hi ,

 

problem solved ?

post #34 of 88

Sorry I missed this thread, as I had previously researched this whole issue:

 

1 - regarding foobar, the developer a) is a "sound quality denier" and more importantly, b) refuses to believe that lowering buffer size in an audio player would not always make thngs worse, despite my giving him quotes to the contrary from DAC designers.

 

2- foobar 0.8.3 actually sounds better than the curent foobar, especially with the otachan asio plugin (google search is your friend), and 0.8.3 allows under 50 ms buffer size.   However, the flac plugin was never fixed to allow 24-bit flac to work in all cases.

 

3 - musicbee developer is not particularly interested in sound quality, but is friendlier and willing to make minor changes to suit setups that he does not own.   Their forum threads include one about the .ini file setting that allows you to set the buffer as low as you want, even to zero.  So, you can use WASAPI with musicbee, but:

 

4 - it turns out that WASAPI is better in theory, but not in practice, and ASIO is still the best sound quality, and...

 

5 - ASIO4ALL with HRT works best for me with all 3 settings turned down to minimum.

 

Feel free to PM me for any details.

post #35 of 88
Thread Starter 

Great input, thanks!

 

1) Great... Gotta love when some people are so hell bent on their ideas that they refuse to listen to any other input.

 

2) I'm only having problems with 24 bit files, especially when going from 16 to 24 bits in a playlist, so 24 bit support is kinda important to me smile.gif

 

3) MusicBee is out, as is Songbird (whats with all the animal names?) and JRiver. I really, really love Foobar's interface. Simple and efficient. JRiver "just works" but it's a bloated behemoth and as I use this for work I'm not looking at the eyecandy anyway.

 

4) I have come to the exact same conclusion!

 

5) I'll give that a try but so far I've found this setup to work best for me:

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post #36 of 88

Hmm - I have the buffer size at minimum, rather than maximum....

post #37 of 88
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Sv: HRT HeadStreamer: WASAPI woes in FooBar

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Originally Posted by kstuart View Post

Hmm - I have the buffer size at minimum, rather than maximum....


If I do that I can't even play back 16/44.1k files
post #38 of 88

Set your buffer as low as possible until you get issues then come up a bit.

post #39 of 88
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Sv: HRT HeadStreamer: WASAPI woes in FooBar

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Originally Posted by ROBSCIX View Post

Set your buffer as low as possible until you get issues then come up a bit.


That's how I ended up with the settings I posted ;-)
post #40 of 88
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Originally Posted by Sorensiim View Post


That's how I ended up with the settings I posted ;-)


Strange you would need such high buffers settings but ASIO4All is actually based on/modified KS driver so it is a bit different in comparison to a hardware based ASIO driver.

 

post #41 of 88
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ROBSCIX View Post

Set your buffer as low as possible until you get issues then come up a bit.


That's how I ended up with the settings I posted ;-)

Must be different for the headstreamer perhaps...

 

post #42 of 88
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Originally Posted by Sorensiim View Post

Great input, thanks!

 

1) Great... Gotta love when some people are so hell bent on their ideas that they refuse to listen to any other input.

On that link posted by melosares, he says:

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Contrary to popular "audiophile" claims, there are NO benefits from using ASIO as far as music playback quality is concerned

I'm pretty sure that if he were in my living room, he would stop saying that...

 

post #43 of 88

I'm having the same issue with iTunes and VLC. This sucks. I use this for my work laptop and i am not happy

post #44 of 88

The comment on the foobar website is correct. You can get bit perfect music with just direct sound.

 

ASIO and WASAPI just makes sure you are doing it right.

post #45 of 88

Sorensiim, A question about the JRMC settings...

 

Do you have the "output format" box in the DSP settings ticked? i just wanted to know your settings there for perfect playback with all sample rates.

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