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post #286 of 661
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Originally Posted by Gilly87 View Post

I think the K550 is in a pretty different sound genre altogether....I didn't find the momentums to sound much like the PX100-II either...similar bass presentation to the HD25s in some ways, with the emphasis on midbass. I can't comment on the DT1350 personally, though I'll say what I've read about it makes me think its not really the same breed either...

 

 

True.  The Momentum is the closed portable that most resembles the PX100 from all the models I've heard.   If I had heard another headphone that sounded identical to the PX100, I would have bought it.   The Momentum does have an emphasis on the midbass, but it does have some subbass (unlike the HD25). 

 

I tossed in the other headphones because I really like them.  Since we both like the PX100, he might find some of those models interesting.

post #287 of 661
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Oh, I still love the MA900. It's in my top 5. I directly compared it to the HE-500, and I preferred the MA900 by a gigantic margin.

 

It's just, well, um, I don't find them comfortable enough. For the first little bit, yeah, but I think the headband bugged me after awhile. At least I think... (you've got me scratching my head right now). I've had two pairs, but there has got to be a reason I got rid of them. I swear it involved comfort. Maybe it was those scratchy pads? All I remember is keeping the AD700 as my gaming and movie headphone over the MA900 because it was superior in comfort. MA900 crushed it in sound though. Two bad I can't combine the two.

It probably was both the scratchy pads and the headband, I had issues with comfort on the headband for the first 2 weeks on the MA900 after that it was fine, the scratchy pad issue never really went away but it never bothered me much. It could also be that the pads were too thin and they dug in your head a little because of that. At least it didn't take over a month to become fully comfortable like the K612 did for me; stiff earpads and the clamp bothered me at first, now it's the most comfortable headphone I own. I found some headphones take a few weeks of heavy use to be their most comfortable. Didn't you also have the K612? What was your opinion of it?

 

I think your issues with the HD 700s sound is largely due to bad synergy, although I wasn't the biggest fan of it when I heard it. The HD 700 and HD 800 were huge disappointments to me as I really like the HD 600/650 and I feel they took a turn for the worse in terms of tonality and balance on the HD 700/800. I do want to try both again with different systems to see if my impressions change or not.

post #288 of 661
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Originally Posted by kman1211 View Post
 

It probably was both the scratchy pads and the headband, I had issues with comfort on the headband for the first 2 weeks on the MA900 after that it was fine, the scratchy pad issue never really went away but it never bothered me much. It could also be that the pads were too thin and they dug in your head a little because of that. At least it didn't take over a month to become fully comfortable like the K612 did for me; stiff earpads and the clamp bothered me at first, now it's the most comfortable headphone I own. I found some headphones take a few weeks of heavy use to be their most comfortable. Didn't you also have the K612? What was your opinion of it?

 

I think your issues with the HD 700s sound is largely due to bad synergy, although I wasn't the biggest fan of it when I heard it. The HD 700 and HD 800 were huge disappointments to me as I really like the HD 600/650 and I feel they took a turn for the worse in terms of tonality and balance on the HD 700/800. I do want to try both again with different systems to see if my impressions change or not.

 

 

Shame too, because the MA900 is so very close to the ultimate comfort. Too bad they didn't use the F1's headband and earpad material. Probably too expensive.

 

I didn't like the K612. I had it at the same time as the Annie and I compared them both a bit. K612 has smaller and shallower earcups, harder foam, and has more clamp. Not very comfortable at all. Sound was alright, but the midrange was actually too forward from what I remember. It also sounded quite dry. The Annie had more weight to the sound, while sounding much more balanced. Wasn't the biggest fan of the original K601 either, but I liked it better than the K612.

 

I've tried the HD700 on a couple different sources I have with similar results. I just don't like the sucked out midrange. The tonality is not to my liking either. It's like Sennheiser's wild child headphone. On the other hand, I absolutely love the HD600 and HD650. I'd take either at full price over the HD700 for $100.

post #289 of 661
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Originally Posted by Katun View Post
 

 

 

Shame too, because the MA900 is so very close to the ultimate comfort. Too bad they didn't use the F1's headband and earpad material. Probably too expensive.

 

I didn't like the K612. I had it at the same time as the Annie and I compared them both a bit. K612 has smaller and shallower earcups, harder foam, and has more clamp. Not very comfortable at all. Sound was alright, but the midrange was actually too forward from what I remember. It also sounded quite dry. The Annie had more weight to the sound, while sounding much more balanced. Wasn't the biggest fan of the original K601 either, but I liked it better than the K612.

 

I've tried the HD700 on a couple different sources I have with similar results. I just don't like the sucked out midrange. The tonality is not to my liking either. It's like Sennheiser's wild child headphone. On the other hand, I absolutely love the HD600 and HD650. I'd take either at full price over the HD700 for $100.


That is true. I gave my MA900 away about two weeks ago, but still in a situation where I can use it. I haven't tried the F1 yet. I doubt it's too expensive considering headphones tend to be marked up quite a bit.

 

Ah I see. I personally liked the K612 more than the Annies and the K712, it's perfectly balanced to my ears while having plenty of weight to its sound, although it could be system differences, hearing differences, and preferences. I thought the MA900s midrange was noticeably more forward than the K612s.

 

The HD 700 did have a somewhat sucked out midrange when I heard it. The treble bothered me as well. I personally would take them over the HD 700, especially the HD 650.

post #290 of 661

Got myself a PX-100-II and I am frankly in awe of this little headphone. I'm actually getting sub-bass! I would not have thought it possible to get bass like this without significant isolation but it's not much of a trade-off at all, even from my best in-ear setups. And the imaging/soundstage is soooooooo pretty.

 

I'll probably end up modding these with a new cable. Maybe detachable? I can tell it's going to be my new traveler, that skimpy cord it comes with is eventually going to give out under those conditions.

post #291 of 661
O.O If you do, please post about it! I might pay good money for such a mod...
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Originally Posted by Roboturner913 View Post

Got myself a PX-100-II and I am frankly in awe of this little headphone. I'm actually getting sub-bass! I would not have thought it possible to get bass like this without significant isolation but it's not much of a trade-off at all, even from my best in-ear setups. And the imaging/soundstage is soooooooo pretty.

I'll probably end up modding these with a new cable. Maybe detachable? I can tell it's going to be my new traveler, that skimpy cord it comes with is eventually going to give out under those conditions.
post #292 of 661
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Originally Posted by Roboturner913 View Post
 

Got myself a PX-100-II and I am frankly in awe of this little headphone. I'm actually getting sub-bass! I would not have thought it possible to get bass like this without significant isolation but it's not much of a trade-off at all, even from my best in-ear setups. And the imaging/soundstage is soooooooo pretty.

 

I'll probably end up modding these with a new cable. Maybe detachable? I can tell it's going to be my new traveler, that skimpy cord it comes with is eventually going to give out under those conditions.

 

Yes, the cable can be a weak link, and is often the case with many headphones - especially those that happen to be portable.

 

As to mods, I wonder if anyone has considered damping the insides of the plastic section that houses the driver.  Much of that area is covered by a dark felt or foam.  But, I'm wondering if a small amount of plasticine would be good to try?  I've applied that mod to the my HD-555 Sennheiisers and found that there was a small improvement in sound quality.  I just applied it to the areas on the inside of the oval where the outer grill material is present.  Sometimes, the smallest mods make a larger difference and it's sad that if a manufacturer wanted to save $.10 cents each pair.

post #293 of 661
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Originally Posted by wje View Post
 Sometimes, the smallest mods make a larger difference and it's sad that if a manufacturer wanted to save $.10 cents each pair.

I think they could be too good for the price. If you have a lot of different models like Sennheiser you don't want that :)

post #294 of 661

Too true

 

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Originally Posted by Rauliki View Post
 

I think they could be too good for the price. If you have a lot of different models like Sennheiser you don't want that :)

post #295 of 661

^ We've seen evidence of that thinking with their cheaper in-ears, specifically they phased out the CX150 which outperformed the more-popular CX300 at half the price, then replaced it with an identical-looking model that didn't sound nearly as good.

post #296 of 661

A real shame too, the CX150 were great at the $20 price point.

 

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Originally Posted by Roboturner913 View Post
 

^ We've seen evidence of that thinking with their cheaper in-ears, specifically they phased out the CX150 which outperformed the more-popular CX300 at half the price, then replaced it with an identical-looking model that didn't sound nearly as good.

post #297 of 661

I've carried a set of PX100ii in my shoulder bag for more than a year.

 

The sound IMO is OK to pretty good.  The foldable form, low price,

and decent SQ kept them as my "go to" portable headphone.

 

But dissatisfaction with the sound kept me searching for an

alternative.  Koss Portapro's and AKG 420's were just not

as easy to carry, nor as comfortable.  I do like the sound of

the 420's more than the PX100ii's, but they have a weird fit

that never feels quite right.  It's too bad, because they're

very good little headphones.

 

I got a pair of Senn 239's yesterday, and though they don't fold

like the others I've mentioned, the SQ is superior enough that

they'll become my new portables.  They do fold flat, are solidly

made (much more so than the PX100ii's), and have a carry bag

included which does make them portable enough.

 

Kind of wondering why they're missing from this thread -

at least the last few pages - and definitely recommend them.

post #298 of 661
Do they have better treble than the PX100-ii?
post #299 of 661
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Originally Posted by Gilly87 View Post

Do they have better treble than the PX100-ii?


I think so.  Slightly softer, yet more detailed at the same time.

 

One of the reasons I bought them: they're on the Inner Fidelity Wall of Fame.

IME generally a high value source of information.

 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/innerfidelitys-wall-fame-ear-pad-open

post #300 of 661

I have been using them extensively for a good couple of months and it is a mixed bag for me. The comfort is okay, but not great. After longer sessions my ears get sore from touching against the plastic behind the pads. But what irritates me the most is when I hang them on my neck. There are some sharp edges on the frame (just at the middle where it folds) that are poking me badly and I am not even exaggerating.

 

If it comes to the sound though, these are very dark in my opinion. I don't know, maybe it is the Sennheiser school everybody is talking about.

Anyway, ultimately, v-Jays replaced PX100-II for me, they are more airy, brighter and more comfortable, altough not constructed as well and are not folding as great.

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