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Originally Posted by singh View Post

^ +1 my interest in EF6 is at its peak .

 

I started saving for EF6 about 10 days ago.

 

Sadly, had to spend it all , on a marantz vintage integrated i just got my hands on , it seems my vintage fetish bettered my interest of EF6 :(

 

Well , Saving starts again.

 

( makes me think, with just 10 days saving i got this awesome marantz, vintages sure are VFM  \o/ \o/ )


Mind you, a fully refurbished vintage Marantz receiver like a 2270 might be just as good, from what I've read.  But my stock 2240 isn't as good, although it's still great out of the speaker output with the HE-6 - I don't use it much because the volume control is too scratchy and needs to be cleaned.  To properly clean it I have to take it apart, or pay someone $150 to completely clean it and re-bias it (no caps or refurb).

 


 

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Originally Posted by grokit View Post

HA, did you get a chance to plug a K1000 into the EF6 (or has anyone)?


 

Sold my K1000 to buy the LCD-2 - Not sure that was the best idea, but it sounded like a good idea at the time.

post #77 of 244

Thanks for the responses. I find the similar driving requirements of the two headphones interesting, but I want to know about the differences as well.

 

Also wondering about the versatility of the EF6. As an observation it seems like the practical opposite of the Violectric V200, with balanced out and SE in.

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Originally Posted by grokit View Post

Thanks for the responses. I find the similar driving requirements of the two headphones interesting, but I want to know about the differences as well.

 

Also wondering about the versatility of the EF6. As an observation it seems like the practical opposite of the Violectric V200, with balanced out and SE in.


The EF-6 doesn't have balanced out.  It has unbalanced output, wired to a 4-pin XLR for convenient connection of the HE-6 (or K1000's stock cable).

 

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Originally Posted by Iron_Dreamer View Post

The EF-6 doesn't have balanced out.  It has unbalanced output, wired to a 4-pin XLR for convenient connection of the HE-6 (or K1000's stock cable).

 

So it's just to eliminate the necessity of using an adapter. The V200's inputs seem genuinely balanced but I'm not sure why.

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How would the EF6 compare to the likes of a Speaker amp in terms of driving the HE6?

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Originally Posted by joshuachew View Post

How would the EF6 compare to the likes of a Speaker amp in terms of driving the HE6?



I asked Fang that very question last week about the latest EF6 vs. amps like the Threshold he first used.  His reply:

 

 

Comparing to a high-end very expensive speaker amp which can pair HE-6 very well, EF6 has higher s/n, and safer. EF6 will beat all of the rest headphone amp. 

 

Fang

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I ask that because my problem is this:

 

I am currently using a speaker amp for my HE6 and i am thinking of getting the Marantz Full Copper Chassis headphone amp that might be slightly more expensive then the HE6. But the problem is, if i buy the speaker amp, my reasoning would be that would be able to use it with future HiFiMan flagships. But then i saw that the HE400 had a high efficiency, so what if the future flagships of the HiFiman had such efficiency then my speaker amp would be wasted and i would have been better off buying a headphone amp. So guys, whats your take on this?

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Originally Posted by joshuachew View Post

I ask that because my problem is this:

 

I am currently using a speaker amp for my HE6 and i am thinking of getting the Marantz Full Copper Chassis headphone amp that might be slightly more expensive then the HE6. But the problem is, if i buy the speaker amp, my reasoning would be that would be able to use it with future HiFiMan flagships. But then i saw that the HE400 had a high efficiency, so what if the future flagships of the HiFiman had such efficiency then my speaker amp would be wasted and i would have been better off buying a headphone amp. So guys, whats your take on this?



It's said that Hifiman's next flagship headphone is electrostatic.


Edited by lee200n - 2/12/12 at 5:32am
post #84 of 244

Jade II ?

 

http://www.head-direct.com/Products/?act=detail&id=22


Edited by grokit - 2/12/12 at 12:54pm
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That just pop up?

2008Oct31215703JadeFinal3.jpg
post #86 of 244

Nah, been there forever. MuppetFace said that they're not really for sale (she called a while back).

post #87 of 244
Yeah seemed like an old listing. The 'free gift' Qinpu speakers link was dead.
post #88 of 244
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Originally Posted by Iron_Dreamer View Post


I have heard the HE-90 numerous times over the years in a number of systems, though I have not owned them myself.  The HE90 has consistently been one of the most disappointing high-end headphones for me, with it's overly colored, warm midrange.  To me the sound is rather fake, and overly romanticized.  It can be a nice flavor for stereotypical "audiophile" music, slow vocal jazz and the like, but I have never really liked the sound for much of anything else.  I would absolutely rather listen to a well-driven HE-6, LCD-2/3, etc, as all the recent headphones I cited (and some I didn't, like the HD800), have a more balanced sound than the HE90 which is much more compatible with a wider array of uses.  The same can be said of the R10, Qualia, etc, as I cited in the review.  I have listened to all of those headphones extensively, and I feel that the newer class of elite headphones offer as many, if not more positives, with fewer negatives and compromises.  Furthermore, the elite headphones of old had an appeal based almost as much on exclusivity as on actual performance.  Of course, the HE90 et al are still out of production, so their exclusivity continues to escalate, and perhaps a lot of people have a hard time looking past that, and believing that current production, easily available headphones could be as good, or better.

 

FYI using RSA amps as your baseline of great performance indicates you still have much to learn about the world of high-end headphones.
 

 

I have not heard it, but it looks like it has a lot more in common with the Hifiman EF-5, than the new EF-6 (which is more similar to a Dynahi or Beta22).
 

 



ROFL!!! sad but so true!

 

post #89 of 244
I guess Steve Guttenberg has a lot to learn, too, then.
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I guess Steve Guttenberg has a lot to learn, too, then.


Yes, he does actually. Everyone's entitled to an opinion, but I've rarely found his to be accurate.


Edited by Shahrose - 2/12/12 at 3:46pm
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