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post #16 of 23
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When you use Linux you are simply using the iDevices regular USB access mode that it uses to get files on the device in the first place. Older iDevices were less protected and that is why you can see the files, newer ones are a bit more tricky in the sense they run a weird operating system that fights back against linux computers when you try to get into them. Hooking the iDevice up to a computer is like using it as an external hard drive, a really expensive one at that too.


Absolutely, and I'm in no way trying to suggest that this is a 'good' thing - simply that it can be done, and I'm not surprised that Apple took measures to stop Linux users copying music FROM an iPod, even though they claim to have abandoned DRM. I have migrated a mountain of iTunes purchases to my T51, the catch being that the 'parent' copy of iTunes and attached store are both long gone from my hard drive. Sure, I had to do some conversion, but its far better than having older tunes trapped on your iDevice. Apple will allow you to download older purchases again if they dont appear in your current iTunes library, but thats not the same thing as giving you *everything* you had on an old iPod.

 

Anyhoo, I've dragged us off-topic : I would love to hear the difference in SQ (if any) between the CLAS/HP-P1 solution and hooking an iPad to a USB DAC. I seem to recall that Skylab and headphoneaddict both had very good things to say about the iPad a music transport with the camera kit, but a lot of the initial buzz seems to have died off.

 

post #17 of 23

The move came as they lessened the restrictions of the DRM they use on their iTunes music. They still have a DRM system, and never claimed to actually be getting rid of it. The restrictions of the latest iDevices are not entirely because of accessing music as it is about limiting how people are able to make use of the iDevices. The portion of the drive that the iDevice uses for storage and any parts a standard user may see when they plug in their device are in two separate compartments essentially. 
 

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Absolutely, and I'm in no way trying to suggest that this is a 'good' thing - simply that it can be done, and I'm not surprised that Apple took measures to stop Linux users copying music FROM an iPod, even though they claim to have abandoned DRM. I have migrated a mountain of iTunes purchases to my T51, the catch being that the 'parent' copy of iTunes and attached store are both long gone from my hard drive. Sure, I had to do some conversion, but its far better than having older tunes trapped on your iDevice. Apple will allow you to download older purchases again if they dont appear in your current iTunes library, but thats not the same thing as giving you *everything* you had on an old iPod.

 

Anyhoo, I've dragged us off-topic : I would love to hear the difference in SQ (if any) between the CLAS/HP-P1 solution and hooking an iPad to a USB DAC. I seem to recall that Skylab and headphoneaddict both had very good things to say about the iPad a music transport with the camera kit, but a lot of the initial buzz seems to have died off.

 



 

post #18 of 23
Thread Starter 

Wow only two options huh! Well after starting this thread I saw online somewhere that external dac's are not necessary for ipod's because their internal one is already good and that having an external one would not change much. It also said that amps aren't necessary either in most cases (I was dubious at that). It said that differences in sound are usually imagined when using dac's and amps. . . what do yall think would a blind test on an ipod with a dac and amp and an ipod without be beneficial?

post #19 of 23
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Wow only two options huh! Well after starting this thread I saw online somewhere that external dac's are not necessary for ipod's because their internal one is already good and that having an external one would not change much. It also said that amps aren't necessary either in most cases (I was dubious at that). It said that differences in sound are usually imagined when using dac's and amps. . . what do yall think would a blind test on an ipod with a dac and amp and an ipod without be beneficial?

That article that you quote is so laughable that I do not even want to response to.  For me, if someone can not tell the difference between an ipod headphone out to an ipod-Solo or Fostex-DAC/amp(pico, RSA, ALO, Ibasso, TTVJ etc), they should stay that way and be happy.  If someone thinks the majority of the dac in PC are respectable and sound fine, they should stay that way and be happy and save tons of money while doing it.
 

 

post #20 of 23

I remember those days.....currently saving up money for an easy $1000+ series of purchases on audio equipment. the last series of purchases was totally worth it though. Considering getting the iBasso DX100.
 

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That article that you quote is so laughable that I do not even want to response to.  For me, if someone can not tell the difference between an ipod headphone out to an ipod-Solo or Fostex-DAC/amp(pico, RSA, ALO, Ibasso, TTVJ etc), they should stay that way and be happy.  If someone thinks the majority of the dac in PC are respectable and sound fine, they should stay that way and be happy and save tons of money while doing it.
 

 



 

post #21 of 23

Totally agree with you.  The DX100 is such a tempter.   Look how far we've come.  The same $1,000.00 four years ago, two years ago and now.  How things have improved.

post #22 of 23

It's gonna be my birthday present to myself...you know, when I save up the money.....
 

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Totally agree with you.  The DX100 is such a tempter.   Look how far we've come.  The same $1,000.00 four years ago, two years ago and now.  How things have improved.



 

post #23 of 23
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Never mind everybody I am closing this thread.

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