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Hello all, i am new to the head-fi community although i've been browsing along it the past few months.  So I guess ill get right to it then. I am look for a preferably full sized headphone, probably closed back and portable amp only if need be. My total budget is >300

 

Primary uses

Mostly for my ipod for on the go use such as buses and car rides. Most likely i will not be walking around with them on so ones that need a small portable amp may be okay.  I will also use them every once in awhile for my computer to watch movies and such, I am a gamer but already have a dedicated gaming headphone so the category is filled.  I am a college student so something with minimal sound leakage would be preferable as to not disturb my roommates.

 

What i would like in a headphone

So here are basically my preferences, i want something with some oomph in the bass but I'm no basshead so the bass doesnt have to be all end all. I'd like something that won't destroy the highs and mids in the attempt for lots of bass. But like i do like a little oomph to my bass. Also seeing as i am on the track team, id like to be able to wear them on the long bus rides without disturbing my teammates, to go along with this good aesthetics would be nice. Or at least something that won't be embarrassing to wear in public. I know that's all based on preference, but just a general consensus on respectable would be nice.

 

Music I listen to

I like hip hop and top 40 music. But i basically like all kinds of music, from stuff like john mayer, to rock, to yes even some country, so one that performs well in all aspects would be nice.

 

Finally Models I've been looking at

 

Beyerdynamic DT770 80s

Audio-Technica ath-m50s

Ultrasone pro 750

Ultrasone Hifi 780

Audio- technica ath-a700s, ath-a900s

Akg k701s- heard these require a good amp and have sound leakage so im not so sure on this one

Shure SRH 940

Denon Ah-d1100

 

Leaning towards the dt770s or m50s atm but I am open to suggestions for other headphones and cheaper amps if i absolutely need them to power the headphone, but id prefer not to do this.

 

Thanks in advance for any help

 

edit: Pretty much narrowed it down to the m50s or dt770s despite the mobility hinderance. Ultrasones seemed alright just not sold on comfort unless i get opinions otherwise.

 

 


Edited by alza - 2/1/12 at 4:53pm
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I have the HFI 580 and I find that they are good with hip hop and mainstream music as well as all kinds of music. the 580 is said to be the more bassy model of the 780.

 

the cable is quite long on both and isn't detachable but i braided it

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instructions here:http://www.head-fi.org/t/593066/diy-video-how-to-braid-long-cords-hfi-580-ath-m50-etc/15#post_8103104

 

They are easy to drive. 32 Ohms with a greater than 100dB sensiitivity.. most find them good looking.'

 

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Edited by bowei006 - 1/31/12 at 5:26pm
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I find (from a few hours I've spent with a friend's pair) that the Klipsch Reference One fits common genres extremely well, looks nice, is built well, and doesn't need an amp. I'd try to audition one (The Image One at Best Buy doesn't count; I found that it sounded utterly different for some reason from a non-abused Reference One) first, though, because it may have a bit too much bass for your tastes.

 

Sincerely,

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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

I have the HFI 580 and I find that they are good with hip hop and mainstream music as well as all kinds of music. the 580 is said to be the more bassy model of the 780.

 

the cable is quite long on both and isn't detachable but i braided it



First off thanks for the fast post, i just did some quick research on these and they generally get good reviews, some better than the m50s. My question is, how do you find the comfort on these? I've read that the earpads are pretty hard and fatigue sets in pretty fast.

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Originally Posted by ssrock64 View Post

I find (from a few hours I've spent with a friend's pair) that the Klipsch Reference One fits common genres extremely well, looks nice, is built well, and doesn't need an amp. I'd try to audition one (The Image One at Best Buy doesn't count; I found that it sounded utterly different for some reason from a non-abused Reference One) first, though, because it may have a bit too much bass for your tastes.

 

Sincerely,


They look really good, but they look a little small for my ears, and yeah they from what I'm reading they may be a little bit bass heavier than i would like. But ill look into them some more, thanks for the post!

 

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Originally Posted by alza View Post



First off thanks for the fast post, i just did some quick research on these and they generally get good reviews, some better than the m50s. My question is, how do you find the comfort on these? I've read that the earpads are pretty hard and fatigue sets in pretty fast.



i have a review on them :D it's in my signature but here

http://www.head-fi.org/t/583344/ultrasone-hfi-580-dj1-review 

 

the sound form what i heard is similar so you should be able to get something out of it. the astehtics, comfort design and stuff is the same so there are some parts of the review that will help you out. and yes. i bought them and not the M50's due to most people recommending these over the M50's nowadays. But as you aren't a bass head. i would say you should look at the 780's more and get some info on them. the earpads aren't..legit hard. they are soft. but on ear. they aren't plush or super comfy. just soft. not comfy. there's a difference. fatigue? i find less fatigue on these. S-Logic brings sound away from ur ears and i think that works well and their 40% less pressure (or less fatigue from what im geting) works. and since they are music headphones. and not analytical. not really harsh so my ears.....dojn't get really too fatigued at all really.


Edited by bowei006 - 1/31/12 at 6:16pm
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Alright well i have to a little more comparison and check on whether they fit my music tastes or not, but thanks, a very helpful suggestionbigsmile_face.gif.

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Originally Posted by alza View Post


They look really good, but they look a little small for my ears, and yeah they from what I'm reading they may be a little bit bass heavier than i would like. But ill look into them some more, thanks for the post!

 



Sorry, they're on-ear. Still "technically" full-size in my head, but some people have different distinctions. I personally wear the Reference One with the back part of the earpad sitting behind my ear sometimes so my ear slides into the side of the earcup, but it can mess with the sound so usually I just use them as normal on-ears.

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That was my bad ssrock i should have specified that i wanted over the ears. I get where you were coming from.

 

I think i am leaning towards the dt770s with a fiiO amp. I like how the comfort factor and the seem to be a pretty solid headphone especially amped. But Im a little worried if this is going to be easily portable. Anyone got any other comments or suggestions on this?

 

Still open to other suggestions as well though. Always like to do some research.

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That was my bad ssrock i should have specified that i wanted over the ears. I get where you were coming from.

 

I think i am leaning towards the dt770s with a fiiO amp. I like how the comfort factor and the seem to be a pretty solid headphone especially amped. But Im a little worried if this is going to be easily portable. Anyone got any other comments or suggestions on this?

 

Still open to other suggestions as well though. Always like to do some research.


They're not going be easily portable.  They're big and heavy and they don't fold. 

Honestly, I think all of the phones you've mentioned are not going to be easily portable.  For the same reasons.

And I think you just might get tired eventually of carting them around with you all the time.

But, of course, YMMV....

 

For a really good sounding "full size" phone that is, in fact, easily portable, I highly recommend the Sennheiser HD25 i II.

There's nothing its size/price range that sounds anywhere nearly as good. 

It's very light and very tough; a very well made headphone.

 

With a Fiio E11. Slim and durable, pretty good sounding, with great battery life as well.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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For a really good sounding "full size" phone that is, in fact, easily portable, I highly recommend the Sennheiser HD25 i II.

There's nothing its size/price range that sounds anywhere nearly as good. 

It's very light and very tough; a very well made headphone.

 

With a Fiio E11. Slim and durable, pretty good sounding, with great battery life as well.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Are you speaking from experience with bigger headphones, or just assuming?  But yeah i have to agree that they are a bit big and i guess would get annoying because they don't fold, which is my biggest problem with them.

 

I did take a look at these, they just don't really seem to jump out at me all that much though to be honest. Also from what i hear about senns in general i don't think the sound of them is for me.  Don't get me wrong they are still great headphones, they just are not for me.

 

As for the amp, the e11 does look really good and has a very attractive price. and great functionality. Although i have heard that for ipods the e7 works better, am i wrong here? Also is the 20 some dollars worth it for the e7, finally how does each rate for powering bigger headphones ohm wise.  Like how much can each of these power?

 

thanks
 

 

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I would recommend the Ultrasone Pro 550/DJ-1 Pro (different packaging, basicallly the same headphones). It has a strong low end with neutral mids, crisp highs and excels with hip hop and pop. It can also fold up to a very small size and it comes with a hard case for transportation.

 

I've paired mine with a FiiO E11. The headphones are low impedance (64 ohms), so they don't need an amp, but the adjustable bass boost is amazing for electronic music.

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Originally Posted by alza View Post

 

As for the amp, the e11 does look really good and has a very attractive price. and great functionality. Although i have heard that for ipods the e7 works better, am i wrong here? Also is the 20 some dollars worth it for the e7, finally how does each rate for powering bigger headphones ohm wise.  Like how much can each of these power?


The E11 is only an amplifier. It is battery powered, and cannot be used while the batteries are being recharged (an annoying limitation if you intend to use it mainly at home).

 

The E7 is a DAC+amplifier combination. It can be powered by USB or batteries, but the DAC is only usable from USB (for an iPod or other portable player, it is also just an amplifier). It can be conveniently used together with the E9 for more power, due to the docking feature. For high impedance headphones, the E11 is capable of outputting more than twice as much power (52 vs. 23 mW into 150 Ohm). So, the E7 is a more versatile device, but its amplifier is weaker if you intend to use high impedance headphones.

 

The E17 is an improved E7 with a better DAC, an amplifier comparable to that of the E11, and some new features, but it is the most expensive.

 

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I would recommend the Ultrasone Pro 550/DJ-1 Pro (different packaging, basicallly the same headphones). It has a strong low end with neutral mids, crisp highs and excels with hip hop and pop. It can also fold up to a very small size and it comes with a hard case for transportation.

 

I've paired mine with a FiiO E11. The headphones are low impedance (64 ohms), so they don't need an amp, but the adjustable bass boost is amazing for electronic music.



I just took a look at these actually because the ultrasone seem like a pretty solid choice for what i want in my headphone. Do you have the Dj-1 pros? If you do how are the comfort on them? I've seen a lot about ultrasones not being very comfortable for long listening sessions. Just wanted to know your opinion on that aspect. Also how is the bass on them? Are they tight and and clear? Or kind of muddy, does it have at least a small oomph that you can feel? How does the amp increase this? They do look pretty good though, well best looking ultrasone model imo at least.

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The E11 is only an amplifier. It is battery powered, and cannot be used while the batteries are being recharged (an annoying limitation if you intend to use it mainly at home).

 

The E7 is a DAC+amplifier combination. It can be powered by USB or batteries, but the DAC is only usable from USB (for an iPod or other portable player, it is also just an amplifier). It can be conveniently used together with the E9 for more power, due to the docking feature. For high impedance headphones, the E11 is capable of outputting more than twice as much power (52 vs. 23 mW into 150 Ohm). So, the E7 is a more versatile device, but its amplifier is weaker if you intend to use high impedance headphones.

 

The E17 is an improved E7 with a better DAC, an amplifier comparable to that of the E11, and some new features, but it is the most expensive.

 




Sorry im kind of new to the whole higher end headphone expierence so i didnt really follow this. Were you saying that the e11 would be the better choice? or the e7s? at least for an ipod set up? The highest impedance i would probably be using is 80 ohms. At the very most 250 if i go with a higher end model.

And i see that by your display picture that you have a beyer dt model, do you happen to own a set of these? If so could you weigh in on my debacle? Ha

Thanks in advance!

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