thanks for helping, but these ones i cannot buy.
i checked all lists of what i can get, and here is a list:
ultrasone edition 8
ultrasone signature dj
audio tehnica ath w5000
audio tehnica ath w1000x
audio tehnica ath w900xltd
denon ah d5000
i wanted a sound that would be as close as possible to hd800 [i simply cannot them or other open back]. i read about every model listed here, almost all reviews that were posted around head-fi. cannot seem to bring myself to get an answer. One of the reasons i am limited to these models is the option to return them if i am not totally pleased. other options include warranty, which is pretty good if i don't buy from outside.
i am searching, basically for the best soundstage possible, treble, detail, separation, not forward mids, and not much bass.
and for iems i can get either ie800 or akg k3003.
EDIT::: i have not seen anybody mention anything about pandora hope VI. i have not even considered them, but it seems that i might be able to grab a pair of these, but likeways with most of what i have to choose, it will be without testing before buyinng, and return is a hassle. how is the soundstage?..
Edited by skerry2006aj - 12/10/14 at 3:05pm