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post #46 of 53

LPs can sound better than their silver disc counterpart, but I don't find that to be the rule, per se.  And really, the only way anyone can make that comparison is if they have both the vinyl and CD of the same recording to compare. 

 

I've always felt that it's more costly to get into a vinyl rig than CD because you have the expense of the table (hopefully it comes with an arm), cartridge and phono preamp.

 

Don't know how much you're looking to spend, but you could probably get into a Rega P3 and Bellari phono pre for a few hundred bucks (assuming bought used) to see what vinyl is all about.  And if you decide to get into records, don't forget about the cleaner you'll also need.  Or you can just wash them in the sink.

 

Good luck.

post #47 of 53

Vinyl seems like a great way to give the loudness war the finger. I think i really should get into it.

post #48 of 53

I've been buying Vinyl records for three years now I think, and I absolutely love it. Make no mistake though, Vinyl is not perfect, and it is a major pain in the ass at times but the moments were it all seems to align and even that horrible beat up record comes to life it can be an amazing experience. The question of whether Vinyl sounds better than a CD is a long answer, if both existed in a vacuum, and the music contained on both discs were recorded by the same method, and played on similar quality equipment, I believe that Vinyl sounds better than a CD. In the real world? Maybe. If you listen to a lot of old rock like Pink Floyd or Led Zeppelin, where music was recorded on analog equipment, and mastered with care Vinyl really shows its strength. Part of that though is because some remasters (sadly the Led Zeppelin remasters have fallen victim to this) are mastered with loudness in mind. The sound difference between Led Zeppelin IV on worn 40 year old record sounds much better than the recent remaster, and infinitely better than tracks from the album Mothership. With more modern albums some of the Vinyl's are cut from the CD version of album, so while the loudness war doesn't exist on the Vinyl in the same way as it does the CD, and the dynamics will be slightly better, the Vinyl wasn't remastered and most of the dynamic compression still exists, and at that point the price difference and sound quality between the two really isn't worth it unless you love the format like myself. 

I do think Vinyl is something you should experience in your life however, eventually I will have to switch over to digital music. Vinyls are not going to last forever, or sound great forever for that matter, and eventually they will likely no longer be produced because lets be honest if music starts being recorded and available for download in Lossless 96000Hz/24-bit or higher quality, there really would be no point to buying a physical format anymore. 

post #49 of 53

Sure there's a point! It's art. Some bands put a lot into the design of their vinyl releases.

 

People still buy oil paintings.

 

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Originally Posted by DxBecks View Post if music starts being recorded and available for download in Lossless 96000Hz/24-bit or higher quality, there really would be no point to buying a physical format anymore. 
post #50 of 53

http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/question487.htm

 

Here is a link of some facts which puts you aware of the Vinyl superiority. But let me put this simple:

 

Any studio-recordable sound is "analog" by definition/convention. The interface you put it will define which kind of signal you will get: analog (like the senoid line on the first graph) or the binary approach to this "perfect" nature signal. In other words, you always lose. You will be aware of the sound, but will never get to its intrinsic priority, which only the pure signal on the vinyl will give to you.

 

Despite all the non-practical issues the vinyl brings, you will have the most true musical immersion experience with it.

post #51 of 53

I will take SACD and DVD-A over all of them especially  classical music.

I will admit some older music was mastered better on the vinyl and on a really good table,arm and cartridge can be pleasurable.

The DDD copy of Brothers In Arms CD played on an Oppo BDP-103 is quite pleasing.

post #52 of 53

I have a Rega Planner II turntable. If I play my Japanese import vinyl or 180g vinyl then it'll beat CD hands down.

post #53 of 53

I really did not know just how much I would miss the lp's until now , and all the good recordings I had...also had a Telefunken player that went somewhere. I even miss the light scratching on the beginning of the records . I was a fool for dumping them and I hope to start soon on another venture with lp's and turntables....ciaofornow

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