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post #31 of 60

The whole point of the KGSSHV was to have an DIY project that would just work is the BOM was followed to the letter.  That means all amps should be created relatively equal. 

 

As for the WES/009 getting good press, most of that is from people who have no point of reference.  The 009 is a very impressive headphone so it will pull the same tricks as the HE90 did back in the day.... 

post #32 of 60

Has anyone owned or heard the RSA A10. Ray Samuel Audio equipment usually is warmish and lush. How would this match up with the 009.

post #33 of 60

 

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...As for the WES/009 getting good press, most of that is from people who have no point of reference...


Have you heard the WES/009 combination?

post #34 of 60

After hearing TMoney's KGSSHV at a recent meet, I doubt it'd be tough to resale, assuming the casework is acceptable.

post #35 of 60
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Have you heard the WES/009 combination?



Jude, no pressure but i just spent 11'000$ based on your video review of that combo tongue_smile.gif

post #36 of 60
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Has anyone owned or heard the RSA A10. Ray Samuel Audio equipment usually is warmish and lush. How would this match up with the 009.


Ask Warp08.  Many have heard the A10 at meets, but he actually owns the combo. 

 

If I was going for a rig right now (and I'm sorely tempted) I'd go for a BHSE, especially as Justin's pretty late in his current run so it shouldn't be too long of a lead time.

 

 

 

post #37 of 60

Clearly there are other amps available other than a BHSE that will suit the taste of people. 

 

So far, ive read people raving about the LL + 009 combo as well as the 009 + WES combo.Some folks have claimed the BHSE is bright with the 009.  Some have said they preferred the O2mk1 with the LL better than the WES and BHSE. Others have said WES and LL sound mediocre compared to the BHSE. Everyone hears differently. Nothing wrong with this AT ALL. NONE of them are wrong.

 

Moreover, all were auditioned with different sources, cables, headphones and possibly different source material and most probably in meet settings. Take that into account. Possibly their opinions would change with a prolonged exposure to varied amps in their home setup with their reference material. 

 

And one amp doesn't fit all.

 

As much as some folks like to say BHSE is the be all and end all..it didn't do much for me with regards to the O2mk1. I would love to give it another try in fact. ANd if it suits me better than the LL i might be willing to even build one.

But say for argument's sake i still hold my opinion on it not being my flavor,  Does that mean my hearing is impaired??! Not at all..just means i prefer a different sound signature than others. Why is this so hard to grasp.

 

If someoone likes the A-10 over the BHSE or the WES over the BHSE, so what. There is no need to be mean about people's preferences or choices. I don't get the blatant animosity towards anything not designed by some one called Gilmore. 

 

Buy what you want, what sounds good to you and what is accessible to you. Frak everything and everyone else.

 


Edited by sachu - 2/1/12 at 11:16am
post #38 of 60
Thread Starter 

Thanks again everyone for the input.

 

It is interesting that there are such diverse opinions on the amplifiers, particularly the WES.  Whilst everyone has there preference as to the particular sound they like, I am surprised there are such diverse views - after all, there are not a huge number of amps being used with the SR009.

 

I am very tempted for the time being to purchase a WEE and use it in conjunction with my Audiopax SET Model 88 amplifiers and see how the landscape looks in a few months on good partnering amps for the SR009.

 

James

post #39 of 60
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Have you heard the WES/009 combination?


Yes.  Mine is greatly improved on the Woo version and I'd much rather have the ESX which is cheaper to build, has much more voltage swing, more power, can run fully balanced with no extra parts and doesn't have huge output caps.  Still I got the parts yesterday needed to clean up my WES (i.e. stop stealing parts from other projects) so people can expect full schematics on how to improve their amps when I can get around to it. 

post #40 of 60

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Originally Posted by Vicks7 View Post

Thanks again everyone for the input.

 

It is interesting that there are such diverse opinions on the amplifiers, particularly the WES.  Whilst everyone has there preference as to the particular sound they like, I am surprised there are such diverse views - after all, there are not a huge number of amps being used with the SR009.

 

I am very tempted for the time being to purchase a WEE and use it in conjunction with my Audiopax SET Model 88 amplifiers and see how the landscape looks in a few months on good partnering amps for the SR009.

 

James


If you're looking to buy a WEE, please let me know.  I have one that's not in use, and I'm intending to sell it off.

post #41 of 60

Hi all,

 

I am new here, well, I have a registered account for a while, but never wrote anything.

 

I am also in the market for an electrostatic rig with a no predetermined amount available for it. Basically, I am pretty much looking for the best sound available, with respect to soundstage and details. 

 

As of now, I am more inclining to SR009 + BHSE

 

Is there any other amps on the market, beside the usual suspects listed in this thread? 

post #42 of 60

PM me if you're interested in my Orpheus but it's considerably more expensive than what you're looking at atm.

post #43 of 60

 

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Yes.  Mine is greatly improved on the Woo version... 


So yours was built by Woo, and then you modified it, hence "Woo version"? Or is this an amp you built from scratch and coined it a WES?

 


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...So far, ive read people raving about the LL + 009 combo as well as the 009 + WES combo.Some folks have claimed the BHSE is bright with the 009.  Some have said they preferred the O2mk1 with the LL better than the WES and BHSE. Others have said WES and LL sound mediocre compared to the BHSE. Everyone hears differently. Nothing wrong with this AT ALL. NONE of them are wrong.

 

Moreover, all were auditioned with different sources, cables, headphones and possibly different source material and most probably in meet settings. Take that into account. Possibly their opinions would change with a prolonged exposure to varied amps in their home setup with their reference material. 

 

And one amp doesn't fit all.

 

As much as some folks like to say BHSE is the be all and end all..it didn't do much for me with regards to the O2mk1. I would love to give it another try in fact. ANd if it suits me better than the LL i might be willing to even build one.

But say for argument's sake i still hold my opinion on it not being my flavor,  Does that mean my hearing is impaired??! Not at all..just means i prefer a different sound signature than others. Why is this so hard to grasp.

 

If someoone likes the A-10 over the BHSE or the WES over the BHSE, so what. There is no need to be mean about people's preferences or choices. I don't get the blatant animosity towards anything not designed by some one called Gilmore...

 

sachu, you and I don't always agree, but I certainly agree with what you just said (above).

 


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Jude, no pressure but i just spent 11'000$ based on your video review of that combo tongue_smile.gif


Don't you worry a bit--it's a fantastic rig.

post #44 of 60

Jude, spritzer and all,

 

I have ordered the BHSE. I have no other reference point other than my stock SRM727II, but I will try to report back what I hear once I get my BHSE. I also think that if I find the BHSE bright with the 009, I can always tube roll a bit to get the sound that best suits me. I intend to get the last bit of details from my Esoteric K-01 and BHSE when used with the 009, and the best of the best "meat" or "cream" with my current office rig, namely Rega Saturn, Liquid Fire and LCD3. I want the best of both worlds, not something in between.

post #45 of 60
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Originally Posted by Vicks7 View Post

Thanks again everyone for the input.

It is interesting that there are such diverse opinions on the amplifiers, particularly the WES.  Whilst everyone has there preference as to the particular sound they like, I am surprised there are such diverse views - after all, there are not a huge number of amps being used with the SR009.

I am very tempted for the time being to purchase a WEE and use it in conjunction with my Audiopax SET Model 88 amplifiers and see how the landscape looks in a few months on good partnering amps for the SR009.

James

I am in a similar boat to you, though on a smaller budget. I think I may start with an energizer as well, but not the SR009. I've heard some of the combinations listed (SR009 + WES/BHSE, SR507/SR007 + LL, HE60/HE90/Jades + A-10, SR007/HE60 + KGSS), but I find high end stat rigs hard to tell apart, they are all so very good. I need to actually own one so I can get accustomed to it to find the differences more readily.

I do wonder if someone going SR009 right out of the gate SHOULD use an energizer. You may end up with an experience that really doesn't live up to the potential and discard the whole plan. What people have told me (and from what I've read) an energizer will rob you of a bit of detail, which is one of the main reasons to go stats in the first place. The price of entry is certainly more palatable at $300-500 (plus speaker amp, people usually already have) vs $2k+ for any decent stat amp (non DIY) which is why I think I will do it.

If you are handy with a soldering iron and schematics there's quite a few DIY stat designs out there, you could even build your own BHSE if you wanted (just don't take any building tips from pabbi1, haha). I've not followed the DIY stat amp designs much but I would think it not to be a beginner DIY project.
Edited by Maxvla - 2/2/12 at 12:56am
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