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post #3406 of 3416
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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post

SB Z or SB Omni should be practically the same at optical output, so I'd say whichever is cheaper.

The DACs built into those aren't bad, so I'd disagree with Rudy and say connecting the Vali to the headphone outs should be fine/better than the Mixamp setup you already use. You could always start SB>Vali>Q701 to start off with and buy an optical DAC later if you want, see if you can hear a difference. The DAC in the Optical Modi (1st gen) and Omni sound extremely similar through headphones.

The X7 basically serves as Sound Processor, DAC, and Amp, so you wouldn't need the Vali at all in that setup (unless you wanted to for flavor). That said, the X7 also has a ton of inputs, so you could feasibly use it instead of the Mixamp with your console too. You choose! It was on Massdrop for a week at $300, not sure if the drop ended yesterday...

Yea I think I'll start of with the sound blaster z > vali > q701 and see how I go.

I'm selling my ps4 plus mixamp so wouldn't get the use of x7 on PC and console.
post #3407 of 3416
Just been looking at x7 I thought they were £400 for some reason there £280 on Amazon, I just going to order 1. So do I still need the sound blaster z sound card or will the onboard audio from my msi gaming 5 motherboard be ok ? I have no experience with PC sound at all.
post #3408 of 3416
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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post


SB Z or SB Omni should be practically the same at optical output, so I'd say whichever is cheaper.

The DACs built into those aren't bad, so I'd disagree with Rudy and say connecting the Vali to the headphone outs should be fine/better than the Mixamp setup you already use. You could always start SB>Vali>Q701 to start off with and buy an optical DAC later if you want, see if you can hear a difference. The DAC in the Optical Modi (1st gen) and Omni sound extremely similar through headphones.

The X7 basically serves as Sound Processor, DAC, and Amp, so you wouldn't need the Vali at all in that setup (unless you wanted to for flavor). That said, the X7 also has a ton of inputs, so you could feasibly use it instead of the Mixamp with your console too. You choose! It was on Massdrop for a week at $300, not sure if the drop ended yesterday...

Well I didnt say they are bad Evs, what I meant to say to not double amp since that can sometimes bring in some not so lovely stuff into the sound...sometimes. As you said before, modi DAC ~ SB Z DAC. They should practically be the same, Im just trying to avoid him doing double amping, but I mean if he does not care about double amping, thats fine for him. I have issues double amping, hence thats why I prefer not to double amp. I guess its preference

post #3409 of 3416
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Originally Posted by YT-MrEleven1181 View Post

Just been looking at x7 I thought they were £400 for some reason there £280 on Amazon, I just going to order 1. So do I still need the sound blaster z sound card or will the onboard audio from my msi gaming 5 motherboard be ok ? I have no experience with PC sound at all.

Honestly, like I said, your motherboards sound is probably poo comapred to dedicated sound cards. Even if it has creatives software, its just software and Im not sure but i think your motherboard still uses realtek audio chipset.

 

With the X7 you dont need an SB Z anymore. X7 is all you need. The X7 is run through USB for PC and optical for consoles and should be better than your mix amp and your onboard audio.

post #3410 of 3416
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Originally Posted by rudyae86 View Post

Honestly, like I said, your motherboards sound is probably poo comapred to dedicated sound cards. Even if it has creatives software, its just software and Im not sure but i think your motherboard still uses realtek audio chipset.

With the X7 you dont need an SB Z anymore. X7 is all you need. The X7 is run through USB for PC and optical for consoles and should be better than your mix amp and your onboard audio.

Ok sounds good and the x7 will be good enough on its own ?
post #3411 of 3416
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Originally Posted by YT-MrEleven1181 View Post


Ok sounds good and the x7 will be good enough on its own ?

From what I have read, yes.

 

I had the SB Z at one point and like the quality. The problem was that the amp that my SB Z had was defective and returned it. Right now I only have an Asus xonar DG which does dolby headphone and its okay but I do like the SB Z better. I would expect better from the X7 on its own.

 

I do plan on getting an X7 later on this year, as soon as I have more money lol.

 

But if you want to get the X7 and offset the cost, sell your Astro Mix amp. You wont need it once you have the X7.

 

Also it should pair well with your AKGs since the X7 matches quite well with its warmer sound signature.

post #3412 of 3416

Is there a sound card in the alienware Area 51 R2?  I noticed I have Sound Blaster Recon3DI installed.  Is that an actual sound card or is it integrated sound?  If so, what type of headphones will it support? hd650? 

 

I have an x7 creative but did not open it yet, since I may already have a decent sound card or integrated sound in my desktop?

 

Anyone know? thanks. 

post #3413 of 3416
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Originally Posted by oncdoc View Post
 

Is there a sound card in the alienware Area 51 R2?  I noticed I have Sound Blaster Recon3DI installed.  Is that an actual sound card or is it integrated sound?  If so, what type of headphones will it support? hd650? 

 

I have an x7 creative but did not open it yet, since I may already have a decent sound card or integrated sound in my desktop?

 

Anyone know? thanks. 

its probably software based and uses the same realtek sound chip. Im not sure but from what I have seen, alot of motherboards do that. But the X7 will be better than any on board audio. What motherboard does the Alienware Area 51 R2 have? And honestly, this is my opinion but why buy an alienware? I use to think they were cool but when I started learning about PCs and actually building one myself....Alienware are overpriced for what they offer

post #3414 of 3416

Thank you for your post.

 

I cant tell what motherboard it is from the specs.

 

The reason I bought this as opposed to building is time constraints and deal on a refurb I got the below for $3081.81  after 100 additional credit negotiated with Dell. It included 3 year complete accidental protection as well. The onboard audio sounds good, but I wish I knew what the deal with the sound chip type?

 

Alienware Area 51-R2 Windows 8.1 Pro $3,181.81 1 $3,181.81 04/30/2015
WR1CC Alienware Area 51-R2
211VX Triple 12GB GDDR5 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 SLI
28HF0 USB Optical 2-Button/Wheel Mouse
2RV8X Service Software
33RD8 Documentation
359TY Placemat
3E476 Certified Refurbished
3Y2JX Windows 8.1 Pro (64Bit)
4F9D1 Label
51RVX CyberLink Media Suite
61F2H Windows 8.1 64BIT
65XVX Alienware Multi-Media Keyboard
6HT1P Label
76YNW Shipping Material
85Y47 Software
8C2D1 Office 365 - 1 Month Trial (Internet access required to install & activate)
95TPJ 32GB Quad Channel DDR4 at 2133MHz
CRMYP Software
CRV33 Intel 7260AC Dual-Band 2x2 802.11 ac WiFi + Bluetooth 4.0
DHC1J Information
GV0CP Wave Systems Software
HT7M4 Centauri CPU heatsink
JJJ92 Power Cord
K74D7 Screw
M3GVR Office 365 - 1 Month Trial (Internet access required to install & activate)
M4PJ3 Software
NG6N4 Software
P6XPR Software
PNNWT Shipping Material
PYXX4 Screw
RXPC8 Information
T2X8C Windows 8.1 Pro
TJXMD 4TB 6kRPM SATA 6Gb/s Storage
TPFWY Alienware(TM) 1500 Watt Multi-GPU Approved Power Supply
TT72D Software
V5G7F Slot-Load Dual Layer Blu-ray Combo (BR-ROM, DVD+/-RW, CD-RW)
XMJ7F Processor: Intel Core 5th Generation i7-5930K Processor (6-cores, 15MB Cache, Overclocked up to 3.9 GHz w/ Turbo Boost)
XP3GF 256 GB Mobility Solid State Drive
 
AL Area 51 R2 : 3 Year Protection Plan (In-Home Service after Remote Diagnosis + Accidental Damage Service)
post #3415 of 3416

Only way you could probably tell what kind of chip it carries is by checking the playback devices, then clicking on your audio source and click on properties and in there, there should be more details of what is running.

 

As for time constraints......thats just an excuse lol.

 

I could have easily built something similar for about 2k to 2.5k and brand new. Paying that much for a refurb, even if it has 3 year warranty on it. Although that PC will last quite a while though. I mean, if you have money to spare, then by all means you can buy what you want but many people at overclock.net would be shaking their heads.

 

But yeah, check your playback devices and click on properties on the device that is being used for audio.

 

EDIT: I like how they say on one of their PCs it says 2x gtx 970s give you 8GB of GDDR5 Ram when in reality, its still 4GB total, even if you use 2 video cards. SMH I wonder if you can sue them for false advertisement.


Edited by rudyae86 - 6/14/15 at 12:31am
post #3416 of 3416

Hi all

 

I have a Creative Titanium HD sound card connected to Audio-Technica AD900 headphones. I am interested in purchasing a headphone amp/dac to compliment my desktop setup for virtual surround sound in games. My question is when selecting a headphone amp/dac for the purpose of virtual surround sound should I be looking at models of headphone dac/amps which excel in the soundstage department? Will a dac/amp with superior soundstage be more effective at positional cues than a dac/amp weaker in the soundstage department? I will be using the dac/amp together with Creative X-Fi CMSS-3D if I can connect it all properly.

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