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post #2686 of 3714
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Originally Posted by PippoXD View Post

 

Btw, i just saw a youtube video from Tek Syndicate saying i dont need a soundcard for anything... If that is the case how do they get the surround?

They're in the minority in that opinion. They don't get any surround sound. That video has been torn apart here, on OCN, and other popular forums where computer audio is discussed. 

post #2687 of 3714

Are those 1/4" male to 3.5mm female adapters bundled with ZXR compatible with any 3.5mm cable like that one included in the bundle, or even then a, e.g., Monoprice 665?

 

I ask for that because those adapters have a screw to plug itself onto 3.5mm plug from the ACM.

 

So are they?

post #2688 of 3714
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Originally Posted by chicolom View Post
 

 

The Tek Syndicate video sort of glossed over the whole point of soundcards, which is that you need a soundcard if you want surround sound (I'm not counting Razor's free surround).

 

I ranted about some problems with that video a while ago:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/593050/the-nameless-guide-to-pc-gaming-audio-with-binaural-headphone-surround-sound/2220#post_10080022

 

I'm late reading your rant chico, but damn, you nail'd it. Didn't know Tek Syndicate made a video like that, guess smartasses will always be smartasses after all.

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Originally Posted by MrEleventy View Post

The game will output from only one of them, usually the defaulted one in Windows. I don't know if you can choose it in game but the games that I've played, you can't.

 Not what i meant, I meant do all cards that have CMSS 3D perform it the same way?

post #2690 of 3714
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Originally Posted by PippoXD View Post

 Not what i meant, I meant do all cards that have CMSS 3D perform it the same way?
It should perfom the same, yes. Sound quality might vary from card to card depending on the dac chipset used, I don't know enough about the different card variations. Also, I output everything to an external DAC & amp, NFB-12, so I can't comment on the quality of the Surround 5.1's output either. lol
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Oh, ok, in that case, for gaming surround purposes, it doesnt really matter what external card i buy, as long as it has CMSS3D, am i correct in assuming this?

 

I will be getting Ultrasone Pro900 or Mad Dog. However i dont know much about driving headsets and that stuff, pro 900 have 40 ohm impedence and the Mad Dog i believe have 50 from some reviews i saw (the website doesn't say how much). With this in mind, are there restrictions i should be aware of when choosing my external sound card with CMSS 3D?

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Originally Posted by PippoXD View Post

Oh, ok, in that case, for gaming surround purposes, it doesnt really matter what external card i buy, as long as it has CMSS3D, am i correct in assuming this?

I will be getting Ultrasone Pro900 or Mad Dog. However i dont know much about driving headsets and that stuff, pro 900 have 40 ohm impedence and the Mad Dog i believe have 50 from some reviews i saw (the website doesn't say how much). With this in mind, are there restrictions i should be aware of when choosing my external sound card with CMSS 3D?
Correct. Been only on this thread a short time but the typical recommendation seems to be, "buy cheapest card you can find with desired surround sound effect, output to dac and or amp". Worked for me. I love the positional on CMSS-3D and everything doesn't sound tinny or spacious hall sounding.

E: The card should be able to handle low ohm HPs well enough w/o a need for an amp. I'd say that anything under 100ohms should be fine. If you venture past that, look for a inexpensive amp like a magni/vali/O2/E09k for a boost.
Edited by MrEleventy - 2/21/14 at 8:02am
post #2693 of 3714

Hmm, i didn't know i needed a dac or amp, what will happen if i dont get these? Just something like the Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Surround non-pro + the headphones, will i not have enough volume or what is it about?

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I don't think you'll need them with the hps you've picked out, I did because my hps are harder to power. just get the card and hps, if you find that they don't get loud enough, then look into an amp.

E: I think the dac recommendations are usually for ppl asking for a setup for gaming and music.
Edited by MrEleventy - 2/21/14 at 8:19am
post #2695 of 3714
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Originally Posted by PippoXD View Post
 

Hmm, i didn't know i needed a dac or amp, what will happen if i dont get these? Just something like the Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Surround non-pro + the headphones, will i not have enough volume or what is it about?

IIRC the Mad Dogs benefit greatly from an amp. I don't know much about the specifics though, so I would head over to that thread and ask around there. 

post #2696 of 3714
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Originally Posted by Murder Mike View Post

IIRC the Mad Dogs benefit greatly from an amp. I don't know much about the specifics though, so I would head over to that thread and ask around there. 

+1, they're orthos so they'll benefit with more current for music but maybe overkill for just gaming purposes. I think it's fine If it gets loud enough.
post #2697 of 3714

thank you guys, I just posted something on the mad dog thread but im pretty sure im not getting an amp or dac atm, i might just take your advice and test it without it and if its not loud enough ill get something then. Btw, should i only get the amp or dac if the volume isnt high enough or are there other reasons to get them for my purposes?

post #2698 of 3714
Dac would be for better audio processing, typically for music listening purposes while amps would address the volume issue.
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THIEF is coming out in less than a week. Who of you has a True Audio compatible AMD card? 

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Does anyone with a Creative Titanium HD know where the equalizer is? I installed one today and the only thing I can find are the bass and treble sliders under the Windows headphone properties. Even my old $20 Xonar DG had an equalizer in its software (when using the Unified drivers, anyway). I'm using Windows 8 with the new drivers that were released by Creative this month.


Edited by randir14 - 2/21/14 at 5:44pm
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