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post #2611 of 3716
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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post

Battlefield has some complicated sound settings.
I thought that, in BF3, you had to chose Home Theater mode (and set windows for 5.1/7.1) so that the soundcard has multiple channels to create directionality, otherwise you're basically performing the same thing as faking surround, guessed from 2 channels. Pretty sure (in BF3) that Hi-Fi mode is just for 2 full-range speakers (2.0 stereo), DH and SBX need the extra channels to properly distinguish between front and back accurately.


For BF4, I believe these settings aren't that important. I think headphone is just a bass boost, and home cinema has an LFE crossover, while HiFi is just normal sound.

 

The speaker configuration setting is more important, as the game outputs 5.1 if you select surround, but 2.0 if you select stereo.


Edited by mindbomb - 2/6/14 at 11:35am
post #2612 of 3716

So in conclusion because this will help a lot of people . 

 

First I have to set bf4 to hifi mode and surround sound ?

 

And second 5.1 surround sound in windows and headphones 64ohm in asus program  and 6Channel .

 

Then enable dolby headphone and try what DH is better while playing ?

 

Correct me if i am wrong ?


Edited by tsine - 2/6/14 at 7:19pm
post #2613 of 3716

Well, I guess the key things are making sure surround is selected in BF4, making sure 6 channel is selected in the asus control panel, and making sure dolby headphone is also selected in the asus control panel.

 

Speaker type (headphone vs home cinema vs hifi) and Dolby headphone settings (dh1 vs dh2 vs dh3) are preference, but I use HiFi and DH1.

 

The BF4 speaker configuration (stereo vs surround) controls whether bf4 outputs 2.0 or 5.1. The audio channel in the asus control panel controls the windows mixer, and needs to be set to 6 to allow 5.1 audio from the game to go through Windows and reach the hardware without getting downmixed. Dolby headphone is needed to create a binaural mix from the 5.1.

post #2614 of 3716

Does anyone know why, in Windows 8, if you change your default audio playback device in the middle of an audio stream, that stream often stays with the "old" device and doesn't switch over to playing on your new default playback device? 

 

For example, I've got a audio stream from Firefox playing on my SB Z, then I set my FiiO E10 to the default playback device but the audio stream continues to play on the SB Z instead of instantly switching over to my E10.  I'm pretty sure windows 7 instantly switched the streams over.

 

What's up with that?

 

 


Edited by chicolom - 2/8/14 at 3:46pm
post #2615 of 3716

Greetings!

 

Thanks a lot for the awesome guide!

 

I'm new here (first message :P) and just purchased a pair of Q701s....

Coming from the Razer Charcharias and Platronics Gamecom 780, I decided it's time to finally upgrade my audio experience :)

 

I haven't received the Q701s yet, though I would like to be ready for them when they arrive :tongue_smile:

 

I am still rather confused and unsure of what I should do / get now...I haven't really paid too much attention to superb audio till now...

 

Been using gaming headsets for quite a few years...most of them USB driven I think...Which took away the use for a good sound card...Or so I thought..

 

All I have at the moment is an onboard sound card that came with my motherboard (Asus P8Z77-V DELUXE...ALC898 audio codec I presume?)...I have no idea how good it is and if I should replace it...Any recommendation for a nice Sound card in that case? Should I actually go down that route? Or get an external DAC?

 

I'm going to be using them for gaming, movies, music , video editing, animation, lip syncing, voice chat and so on :/

EDIT: Forgot to say that surround sound is quite important to me...Got addicted to the virtual 7.1 the Gamecom 780 gave me..haha :P)

 

The whole question of DAC vs Sound Card + Amp is really confusing to me at the moment and I'm not sure how to tackle this :P

 

I understood that I SHOULD get an amp for these headphones, but what exactly should I get? Same problem as with the sound card, haha ^^

 

Could someone please give me a hand? :) 

I'm not entirely sure where I'm standing and what is actually necessary for me to get ^^

 

Thanks ahead in advance! :D :beerchug:

 

* (here's a link to the motherboard I have atm, I'm assuming the onboard sound card is not stellar? http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P8Z77V_DELUXE/#specifications :blink:)


Edited by Orodromeus - 2/10/14 at 10:57am
post #2616 of 3716
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Originally Posted by Orodromeus View Post

Could someone please give me a hand? :) 

I'm not entirely sure where I'm standing and what is actually necessary for me to get ^^

 

Pick one of the entry level sound cards (Xonar DG/DGX, Creative Titanium, or Sound Blaster Z) and add a desktop amp to the chain and see how you like it. For the Q701, you would probably be looking at something like an E09K or Magni. 

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Originally Posted by Murder Mike View Post

Pick one of the entry level sound cards (Xonar DG/DGX, Creative Titanium, or Sound Blaster Z) and add a desktop amp to the chain and see how you like it. For the Q701, you would probably be looking at something like an E09K or Magni. 

@Murder Mike - Heya! Thanks for the reply! Sounds like a great plan to me biggrin.gif

Which card do you think will be the best for the job for now? I had my eye on the xonar essence stx and the titanium hd... Do you, perhaps, have any specific recommendation for me? smily_headphones1.gif

Heard good things on both, a bit more on the stx I think....A good sound card should be be good DAC, right?

Thanks ahead! biggrin.gif
post #2618 of 3716
Just wondering...

Currently my setup is as follows :
X-Fi Surround 5.1 - What U Hear >> NFB 12

Is there benefit to change it to :
X-Fi Surround 5.1 - Optical >> NFB 12

I know the NFB12 can handle 24/192 via optical but the output of the X-Fi is 24/96 so I don't think I'll "benefit" from it. I ask because I don't have an optical cable handy and would rather save the $10 if it's not needed. I have enough cords as it is. Thanks. smily_headphones1.gif
post #2619 of 3716
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Originally Posted by Orodromeus View Post


Which card do you think will be the best for the job for now? Do you, perhaps, have any specific recommendation for me? smily_headphones1.gif

 

Honestly, head over to MLE's thread and listen to the youtube videos in the OP and see what kind of surround sound you prefer. You don't need an STX or Titanium HD at all. The DAC will be slightly better in those, but it's not worth the extra money. You can get a cheap card and run the sound out of the optical port to a standalone DAC if you wanted to go that route. This offers far greater flexibility in the end. 

 

Cheap soundcards to choose from:

Xonar DG/DGX (DG is PCI, DGX is PCI-E) - Dolby Headphone

Creative Titanium - CMSS-3D

Sound Blaster Z - SBX Pro Studio 

 

If you just want something simple, the STX will probably do it, but you can get a cheap soundcard and desktop amp for around the same price.

post #2620 of 3716
Originally Posted by chicolom View Post
 

Does anyone know why, in Windows 8, if you change your default audio playback device in the middle of an audio stream, that stream often stays with the "old" device and doesn't switch over to playing on your new default playback device? 

 

For example, I've got a audio stream from Firefox playing on my SB Z, then I set my FiiO E10 to the default playback device but the audio stream continues to play on the SB Z instead of instantly switching over to my E10.  I'm pretty sure windows 7 instantly switched the streams over.

 

What's up with that?

I have had the same problem in Windows 7 chico and I don't have a clue as to why this happens. Anybody got any ideas?

 

Originally Posted by MrEleventy View Post

Just wondering...

Currently my setup is as follows :
X-Fi Surround 5.1 - What U Hear >> NFB 12

Is there benefit to change it to :
X-Fi Surround 5.1 - Optical >> NFB 12

The DAC in the NFB 12 will be better than the one on your soundcard. I'd go for it.

post #2621 of 3716

I will receive my SOUNDBLASTER ZXR tommorow stay tuned !

post #2622 of 3716
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Originally Posted by SaLX View Post
 

I have had the same problem in Windows 7 chico and I don't have a clue as to why this happens. Anybody got any ideas?

 

If you have the same problem in windows 7 it might just be something with Windows having trouble switching the stream from the SB Z's 5.1 channels to other DAC's 2 channel stream.

post #2623 of 3716
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Originally Posted by SaLX View Post
 

The DAC in the NFB 12 will be better than the one on your soundcard. I'd go for it.

 

So, let me get this straight. Will he still use the sound card for CMSS or will he have to go to some other surround solution?

 

I'm interested because I love the CMSS via my X-Fi HD, I have it feeding a JDS Labs O2, going into some AKG K612's...but I'm always looking for more punch in game. Or, am I wasting time seeing as its just a full on gaming machine?

 

Was that a Highjack?

 

Hehe

 

Cheers

post #2624 of 3716

If you want to upgrade he (or you) could get an external DAC and amp (or a combined one) with optical in. An external DAC will almost always be better than a soundcard.

 

The soundcard would send the surround out to his DAC in a PCM stream optically. The external DAC does all the work and as an added bonus you still get complete control of your soundcard's control panel ie EQ, your surround sound settings exactly as you want them, filters and DSP's etc etc. You'd still be connecting your mic into the soundcard though.. it'd just be configured as any other device. 

 

No guarantee it will transform your experience, however I've been very happy going that route. Thing is.. your O2 is probably doing a very very good job in conjunction with your own X-Fi. In MrEleventy's case though, I'd score an optical lead asap, as his DAC section on his amp is not being used at all, and will be better than his soundcard :smile: !!!!!!!


Edited by SaLX - 2/12/14 at 6:16am
post #2625 of 3716

Roger that..sounds good.

 

Cheers

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