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post #2551 of 3093
That's exactly the problem that I'm having in deciding; I want about 50% gaming, 50% music. The gaming route would be the q701 and Schiit Magni, the music route would be the M100. If I get one I won't be able to get the other one for a few months (I'm 17). The M100 is exactly what I want for music, but as I'm building my gaming PC next week, I think I might get the q701 first. Does the V-Moda Boompro mic work with the q701? Or should I invest in a Blue mic if I buy it?
post #2552 of 3093
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Originally Posted by Cruhx View Post

That's exactly the problem that I'm having in deciding; I want about 50% gaming, 50% music. The gaming route would be the q701 and Schiit Magni, the music route would be the M100. If I get one I won't be able to get the other one for a few months (I'm 17). The M100 is exactly what I want for music, but as I'm building my gaming PC next week, I think I might get the q701 first. Does the V-Moda Boompro mic work with the q701? Or should I invest in a Blue mic if I buy it?

 

I would go with the Q701 and Magni first and see how you like it. You don't need a Blue Yeti mic or anything like that. A simple clip-on like the Neewer in MLE's thread will perform well. If you wanted something nicer, there's the Antlion mod mic and the Samson Go Mic (Desktop) that I've heard good things about.

post #2553 of 3093
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Originally Posted by MrEleventy View Post


I think you're ignoring the fact that musically, the M100 is probably what he's looking for and he's probably leaning toward music first then gaming. So he's thinking great music, ok gaming vs what Q701 might be for him, terrible music great gaming. So I wouldn't call it a bad decision.

To call the Q701 just terrible for music seems irresponsible to me. I'm not ignoring it and I'm still recommending the Q701.

post #2554 of 3093
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Originally Posted by Cruhx View Post

That's exactly the problem that I'm having in deciding; I want about 50% gaming, 50% music. The gaming route would be the q701 and Schiit Magni, the music route would be the M100. If I get one I won't be able to get the other one for a few months (I'm 17). The M100 is exactly what I want for music, but as I'm building my gaming PC next week, I think I might get the q701 first. Does the V-Moda Boompro mic work with the q701? Or should I invest in a Blue mic if I buy it?

I think the all-around route is the Q701 and Magni. Unless you are in absolute need for issolation and colored bassed, the Q701 and Magni is a great place to start.

post #2555 of 3093
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Originally Posted by roguegeek View Post

To call the Q701 just terrible for music seems irresponsible to me. I'm not ignoring it and I'm still recommending the Q701.
You took what I said out of context, I wasn't calling the Q701 terrible musically as I haven't heard it for myself. What I did say was "Q701 might be for him, terrible music great gaming.". The fact that he decided on a M-100 at first means that he's looking for something bassy which I don't believe the Q701 are.
post #2556 of 3093
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Originally Posted by MrEleventy View Post


You took what I said out of context, I wasn't calling the Q701 terrible musically as I haven't heard it for myself. What I did say was "Q701 might be for him, terrible music great gaming.". The fact that he decided on a M-100 at first means that he's looking for something bassy which I don't believe the Q701 are.

Gotcha. Yeah, that's my misunderstanding and I apologize. I think I still lean towards the Q701 in this instance.

post #2557 of 3093

If you want ONE headphone that can be used for portable music (so closed with good isolation) and gaming, you should get one that has as much soundstage as possible and without overpowering bass.  I can't speak for the M100 as I haven't heard it, but I'm not sure it fulfills all those requirements -and it's $300.

post #2558 of 3093
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Originally Posted by roguegeek View Post

Gotcha. Yeah, that's my misunderstanding and I apologize. I think I still lean towards the Q701 in this instance.
It's all good. beerchug.gif

I probably would also if I was in his situation, I got out of the basshead phase after my first HP coming back to head-fi. Went from the M80s to the dt880s and never looked back. dt880smile.png I would still love to try the q701s one day but not in a hurry. Maybe at a meet or something. Or someone sells me a pair cheap. biggrin.gif

E: Since Razer Surround was free, I gave it a try on my system with an O2 amp. I find it alright. Adequate but I think I would be disappointed if I had paid money for it. Went searching on eBay and found a X-Fi Surround 5.1 used for cheap. Going to try that and if all else failed, there's the SB Omni.
Edited by MrEleventy - 1/27/14 at 12:30pm
post #2559 of 3093
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Originally Posted by MrEleventy View Post

I think you're ignoring the fact that musically, the M100 is probably what he's looking for and he's probably leaning toward music first then gaming. So he's thinking great music, ok gaming vs what Q701 might be for him, terrible music great gaming. So I wouldn't call it a bad decision.
Neither headphone would be "terrible" for either purpose... these are both high-quality mid-Fi headphones that do everything well and some things amazingly. IMO, What it comes down to is this: if you need portable, closed, durable headphones, the M-100 is a strong pick and the better suited of the two, but if what is needed is long-term comfort, instrument separation, and balanced-but-lively headphones and you'll be too busy to listen to music while out-and-about anyway, then the Q701 would suit better.
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Originally Posted by chicolom View Post

If you want ONE headphone that can be used for portable music (so closed with good isolation) and gaming, you should get one that has as much soundstage as possible and without overpowering bass.  I can't speak for the M100 as I haven't heard it, but I'm not sure it fulfills all those requirements -and it's $300.
The. M-100 handles mids better than the HE-400, and it has colored bass but I don't find it overpowering. I haven't compared it to a CAL (Creative's Aurvana Live, regarded as having one of the largest soundstages for a closed headphone, at an affordable price) or other Fostex driver headphone, but it works well with virtual surround and easily beats stereo speakers for tactical information.
YMMV of course, and I don't weigh the price very much since both these headphones will last a long time and I spent less than $300 to get them.
post #2560 of 3093
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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post


I haven't compared it to a CAL (Creative's Aurvana Live, regarded as having one of the largest soundstages for a closed headphone, at an affordable price) or other Fostex driver headphone, but it works well with virtual surround and easily beats stereo speakers for tactical information.

 

 

Personally I don't find the CAL to have that large of a soundstage.  More medium sized or less.  Largest for a closed headphone under $100 probably, but not on par with things like Denon Dx000, Fostex, Beyer, etc.


Edited by chicolom - 1/28/14 at 3:38pm
post #2561 of 3093

Yeah all closed headphones struggle in this regard. From my experience the best ones I encountered are the D7K, TH-900 and the T5P.

post #2562 of 3093
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Originally Posted by chicolom View Post


Personally I don't find the CAL to have that large of a soundstage.  More medium sized or less.  Largest for a closed headphone under $100 probably, but not on par with things like Denon Dx000, Fostex, Beyer, etc.
Well the CAL supposedly is a rebadged Denon D1000, using the same Fostex drivers, right?
post #2563 of 3093
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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post


Well the CAL supposedly is a rebadged Denon D1000, using the same Fostex drivers, right?

I've heard it was the D1001. It does use the bio-cellulose drivers though. 

post #2564 of 3093
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Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post

Well the CAL supposedly is a rebadged Denon D1000, using the same Fostex drivers, right?
I meant the D2000 and up. I've heard the CAL right next to the D2000 and the latter had a bigger soundstage.
Edited by chicolom - 1/29/14 at 5:56pm
post #2565 of 3093

I'm a bit confused on what this guide is trying to say. Is it telling me to download something?

 

I have a Z87X-UD3H ALC898 with a DRV632 600 ohm headphone amp. As I understand, ALC898 is really good, and I have an amp onboard already, so I don't need a sound card because my sound is already super good. I don't really see any mention in the guide about this stuff.

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