Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Computer Audio › The Nameless Guide To PC Gaming Audio (with binaural headphone surround sound)
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

The Nameless Guide To PC Gaming Audio (with binaural headphone surround sound) - Page 156

post #2326 of 2859
Quote:
Originally Posted by NamelessPFG View Post
 

 

I feel really glad that I managed to not only snag an i7-4770K for $200 prior to Black Friday, but also an Asus ROG Maximus VI Hero for just $130 due to open-box discount + $30 combo discount...

 

Of course, I'm still envious of those Intel Retail Edge-qualified folks and their sub-$200 i7-4930Ks!

 

Yeah, you scored the best deal you can get on those parts outside of the retail edge deal.

 

The key to getting good deals is to already have of your parts planned out before November.  Than you can be ready for deals when they pop up.  I only started trying to research things on Thanksgiving, so I had to watch some deals fly by while I was still scrambling to figure which parts were out there and whether they were any good.  If I had known things like "4770K for CPU", "GTX 770 for GPU", then I would have been ready to pounce on the deals as they came up instead of having try and google and research them in realtime and race against the clock as deals faded.  I could have set up price/deal alerts on the parts I wanted and then just sat back and picked them off as they came up.

 

I wish I had seen those "Tom's Hardware:  Best [PART] of November 2013" lists earlier.  They made the research so much easier than just googling tons of things like "7870 vs 770", "8320 vs 4770k" etc. to try an flesh out a hierarchy of parts myself. 

 

 

Anyways, I still managed to get nice deals on the majority of my parts, but I still need a CPU and motherboard - and unfortunately CPU prices are much colder now than they were a month or two ago.  I've set up deal alerts on the 4770k, and I've contemplated waiting for one, but I'll probably just have to suck it up and bite the 4770k for 280 @ microcenter and then hope they drop it to 250 again within 15 days so I can get a post-sale price protection refund.  I'm not sure when the next time Microcenter will be having a sale is. :\


Edited by chicolom - 12/31/13 at 1:13am
post #2327 of 2859

So I might be committing blasphemy in the eyes of the this thread.  I sold my ZXR and placed an order for my new Audio GD NFB-15.32.

 

I will grab a cheap Z oem soon when I get my Christmas bills payed off(GF gifts sent my wallet into a recession) but until then I will be playing my game in plain old stereo. 

 

Curious to see how the 15.32's sound stage mated to my DT770 250 ohm sounds with no virtual surround.

post #2328 of 2859
Why not just snag a used Xonar U3? Gotta be less than $40, and you can hook it up to any PC. Set it up to output Dolby Headphone through the spdif out, and you'll be able to use the superior dac and in the NFB.
post #2329 of 2859
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJINFERNO806 View Post
 

So I might be committing blasphemy in the eyes of the this thread.  I sold my ZXR and placed an order for my new Audio GD NFB-15.32.

 

I will grab a cheap Z oem soon when I get my Christmas bills payed off(GF gifts sent my wallet into a recession) but until then I will be playing my game in plain old stereo. 

 

Curious to see how the 15.32's sound stage mated to my DT770 250 ohm sounds with no virtual surround.

Your DT770s will sound nice hooked up to the 15.32.

Just hook up the 15.32 using optical, to computer's motherboard, at least you can use the features of the motherboard's built in audio hardware, until you buy the SB-Z OEM.

post #2330 of 2859
Chicolom,
I just met a guy yesterday at work with the last name Chico. Aside from a moment of thinking I had just won the social equivalent of the lottery, I found out he pronounces the name like (think of the tea) Chai-ko. Is this how you'd pronounce your name too? Chai-kol-om?

Asus boards have a sterling overclocking reputation, and a few other features, but Gigabyte boards are also pretty durable for overclocking and have a number of great features, one I have and enjoy a lot is that the USB ports can provide power even when the computer is off (if you may recall, this is what made my Recon3D USB setup so convenient), enough to charge an iPad. If you see a gigabyte board on sale, I'd say they're well-worth looking into.


DJINFERNO806,
Past tense is paid. wink.gif
But yeah, if you haven't tried out Dolby Headphone, this could be an opportunity. You may know I prefer creative's solutions, and that they have the technical ability to create height cues, but still DH is no slouch and Asus' U3 is equipped with a 3.5mm/Optical combo output, and is probably the cheapest way to get surround DSP out to external components. Obviously money is tight after Christmas... but you could probably sell it later if you miss the Creative solution.

I'm going to test out the SB Z some more with CS:GO after I eat something, is it easy to enable OpenAL with this game? I'll also be sure to tell you guys what I think of the Omni in comparison (with the external tube amp), though the Omni is also equipped with an optical out...
post #2331 of 2859
Quote:
Originally Posted by Evshrug View Post

Chicolom,
I just met a guy yesterday at work with the last name Chico. Aside from a moment of thinking I had just won the social equivalent of the lottery, I found out he pronounces the name like (think of the tea) Chai-ko. Is this how you'd pronounce your name too? Chai-kol-om?

Asus boards have a sterling overclocking reputation, and a few other features, but Gigabyte boards are also pretty durable for overclocking and have a number of great features, one I have and enjoy a lot is that the USB ports can provide power even when the computer is off (if you may recall, this is what made my Recon3D USB setup so convenient), enough to charge an iPad. If you see a gigabyte board on sale, I'd say they're well-worth looking into.


DJINFERNO806,
Past tense is paid. wink.gif
But yeah, if you haven't tried out Dolby Headphone, this could be an opportunity. You may know I prefer creative's solutions, and that they have the technical ability to create height cues, but still DH is no slouch and Asus' U3 is equipped with a 3.5mm/Optical combo output, and is probably the cheapest way to get surround DSP out to external components. Obviously money is tight after Christmas... but you could probably sell it later if you miss the Creative solution.

I'm going to test out the SB Z some more with CS:GO after I eat something, is it easy to enable OpenAL with this game? I'll also be sure to tell you guys what I think of the Omni in comparison (with the external tube amp), though the Omni is also equipped with an optical out...

Lol had a derp moment there... This is what happens when you rush to post from work.

But ya, I had an STX before and I didn't like DH as much as I loved SBX with my z and zxr.

Ya source games are a pain to enable ds3d and alchemy nowadays. With my zxr and the right values all I got were audio artifacts and under water sounding nonsense. Maybe someone else can chime in with their successful settings.
post #2332 of 2859
Drat, really? Eugh.
post #2333 of 2859
Thread Starter 

Okay, since people keep asking me on whether the X-Fi Titanium HD works with Windows 8.1 with the current drivers, I set it up just to find out; the answer is "yes, the drivers install and produce sound".

 

Problem is, I just spent the new year extremely pissed-off at Microsoft as a result. I forgot to disconnect the Windows 7 drive first, so guess what happens? Instead of placing the Win8.1 bootloader on its own drive like I planned, it plops it over the Win7 bootloader and destroys my ability to boot into Win7 at all.

 

Attempting to use Startup Repair off either install disc is completely useless, the BCD's only gotten worse with my vain attempts to fix it, and at this point I've resorted to wiping the Win8.1 install for a second Win7 install just so it'll hopefully fix the damn bootloader for the original installation. This is why every drive needs its own bootloader, folks. Want to boot a different OS? Select a different drive in your BIOS/UEFI menu, and done!

 

The prices I pay for curiosity and trying to answer people's questions...several hours down the drain trying to fix this crap.

 

EDIT: Fixed!...no thanks to Microsoft. As usual, Linux saves the day.

 

But I couldn't boot Linux on this system before...you know why? Secure Boot needed to be changed from "Windows UEFI" to "Other OS" in the UEFI menu, otherwise it won't get past the bootloader.

 

So I installed Win7 over the Win8.1 drive, formatting it first, booted Linux off a USB drive, used GParted to copy over the fresh bootloader install over to the borked one, booted the Win7 install DVD and had it run a Startup Repair to fix the BCD, and NOW it all works.


Edited by NamelessPFG - 1/1/14 at 12:16am
post #2334 of 2859

Hey guys,

 

3 setups in mind that I can't decide which one to choose. My main focus being FPS gaming with positional sound but also want great sounding music and movies.

 

- SB ZxR w/ Sennheiser HD558s or AKG K612s

- Asus Xonar STX w/ Sennheiser HD558s or AKG K612s

- SB Z (for gaming), an external DAC at somepoint w/ Senn HD558s or AKG K612s

 

 

Which would be the best option without costing an arm and a leg. 

 

Is the ZxR and STXs DAC and amp plenty for those cans?

 

How much would I need to spend on a DAC to be much better then the Zxr and STX?

post #2335 of 2859

The K612 is definitely hard to drive, so you might want to jump straight to a desktop amp if you go that route.

post #2336 of 2859

The onboard amp on the STX or ZxR wouldn't be enough your saying? 

 

Or just won't get the same quality?

 

Because they both say they will do up to 600ohm, and the k612 are only 120ohm I think. 

post #2337 of 2859
Those specs are not truly worth mentioning. Impedance is not a cut and dry measurement on how hard a headphone is to drive. The HE-4 is 40ohm or so and it's a LOOOOOOOT harder to power than any 600ohm I've heard.

The AKG K70x series are all 62ohm or so, and they are well known to need as much as 600ohm headphones. Hence why you don't just look at some impedance to gauge how powerful your amp or headphone is/needs to be.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 1/3/14 at 9:51am
post #2338 of 2859
Ok I knew it wouldn't be cut and dry, with marketing it never is. Are you saying those sound cards would be not nearly as good as an external DAC for music?

I'm trying to get a setup for gaming as the main focus but also want quality music.

Would the Z or Zx be a wiser decision for gaming than to get a DAC for the audio solution?
Was looking at the Audioquest Dragonfly, would that be better for powering a more variety of headphones?

Not looking to spend over $400 on headphones right now but would like it future proofed somewhat.

I'ver been looking to improve my audio since I can't stand my Razer Megalodons anymore.
post #2339 of 2859
Quote:
Originally Posted by Woesty420 View Post

Ok I knew it wouldn't be cut and dry, with marketing it never is. Are you saying those sound cards would be not nearly as good as an external DAC for music?

I'm trying to get a setup for gaming as the main focus but also want quality music.

Would the Z or Zx be a wiser decision for gaming than to get a DAC for the audio solution?
Was looking at the Audioquest Dragonfly, would that be better for powering a more variety of headphones?

Not looking to spend over $400 on headphones right now but would like it future proofed somewhat.

I'ver been looking to improve my audio since I can't stand my Razer Megalodons anymore.

 

 

The DACs in the soundcards should already be decent.  I wouldn't expect a huge change in getting an external one. 

 

If you want to get another one though, I would try to get one that has optical inputs too, so you can use it with your soundcards if you want.  It won't matter if you have the best audiophile DAC in the world IF it means LOSING surround sound DSPs by using it.  I'd rather take a cheap DAC with surround sound over a high-end one in plain stereo.   A DAC with only USB inputs would mean you would you lose your surround sound processing, but with an optical DAC you could still use them.

 

That Audioquest Dragonfly USB DAC obviously only works with USB, and it isn't going to be that powerful for powering headphones as it's getting all of its power through the USB port.  I think it will struggle to power something like the K612, and it will have a weaker amp than the ones you get in a soundcard.  I would get a bigger beefier desktop DAC/Amp if you go that route.  I wonder what's the cheapest AudioGD box that has a DAC with USB input and Optical input...?

 

 

 

I wouldn't get a Soundblaster Zx.  That external audio control thing looks cool, but I've read that using that as the amplifier degrades the audio over just plugging straight into the soundcard's amp.  So the money spent on that audio controller thing would be a waste.

post #2340 of 2859
The ACM isn't an amp, its just an extension with a volume pot. Unless you really need an extension I wouldn't waste my money.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Computer Audio
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Computer Audio › The Nameless Guide To PC Gaming Audio (with binaural headphone surround sound)