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Any place to buy the U7 on the cheaper end without going to EBay? Also do you recommend this u7 with an internal sound card? Or Can this do just as well working off on board sound? 

I got mine from Amazon Germany, the dealer was in the UK. It should appear in retail stores soon. It gets its digital signal via usb, it has to be set as the standard device, but it sets itself as this on driver installation. I have the Xonar U1 and U7 connected for comparison purposes. I can switch at any time by changing the standard device in the properties of the speaker symbol @ Windows 7 taskbar. so my onboard card is disabled there and just not used.

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Hey nameless. I have a few questions. I am planning on buying an A900X for gaming and I'm wondering how much benefit I would get from putting in a soundcard. I currently have an old creative audigy 2 sound blaster zs lying around and my motherboard has the Realteck ALC892 audio codec. I'm wondering if a cheap card, say in the Asus Xonar series, would be any better than one of these options.

 

My motherboard's onboard audio seems to have the same specs as the Xonar series - see manufacturer description below.

 

"Only MSI offers the Loss-less 24-bit/192KHz HD Audio function with an incredible 109 SNR dB value to provide the most clear & vivid HD audio quality and support 7.1 channels surround sound playback with a 2-channel independent stereo output (multiple streaming) through the front panel 3.5 inch phone jack.

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hello, my first post here. smile.gif

 

I was wondering if someone could give me some advice about headsets for PC,

because my current Headphones isn't going to cut it anymore. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pro-luxe-Stereo-Heardphone-OA-800-/261185499701?pt=UK_AudioVisualElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_Headphones&hash=item3ccfde7235&nma=true&si=NCAbT%252BdqriuKi9Npi93mjxWiUDo%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 It's a piece of crap 1st class, that muts i can tell you about it. So i basicly need a new one.

 

I think i need an al rounder. I play a lot of games and also watch a lot of movies on my PC and ofcourse a lot of Music aswell. bigsmile_face.gif

 

I also wan't one with a microphone, because i now use a Logitech 9000 pro usb mic, witch is also absolute crap. People online always complain that it starts freaking out when i rais my voice.

 

I have been reading and searcing for a bit the last 2 days and thus far i found these 2;

- http://steelseries.com/products/audio/steelseries-siberia-v2#specifications

- http://en-de.sennheiser.com/gaming-headset-stereo-pc-320

 

Initially i'd go with the Siberia v2, but then i found the PC 320, wich is 15,- cheaper. Then i read somewhere that most budget sennheisers are crap and only the highend sennheisers are worth it?

 

I got about 100,- euros to spend on a new headset, cheaper is Always better, but if something is really worth the money then i consider a bit more. PC 360 is above my budget realy.

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Originally Posted by jbkappirossi View Post

hello, my first post here. smile.gif

 

I was wondering if someone could give me some advice about headsets for PC,

because my current Headphones isn't going to cut it anymore. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pro-luxe-Stereo-Heardphone-OA-800-/261185499701?pt=UK_AudioVisualElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_Headphones&hash=item3ccfde7235&nma=true&si=NCAbT%252BdqriuKi9Npi93mjxWiUDo%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 It's a piece of crap 1st class, that muts i can tell you about it. So i basicly need a new one.

 

I think i need an al rounder. I play a lot of games and also watch a lot of movies on my PC and ofcourse a lot of Music aswell. bigsmile_face.gif

 

I also wan't one with a microphone, because i now use a Logitech 9000 pro usb mic, witch is also absolute crap. People online always complain that it starts freaking out when i rais my voice.

 

I have been reading and searcing for a bit the last 2 days and thus far i found these 2;

- http://steelseries.com/products/audio/steelseries-siberia-v2#specifications

- http://en-de.sennheiser.com/gaming-headset-stereo-pc-320

 

Initially i'd go with the Siberia v2, but then i found the PC 320, wich is 15,- cheaper. Then i read somewhere that most budget sennheisers are crap and only the highend sennheisers are worth it?

 

I got about 100,- euros to spend on a new headset, cheaper is Always better, but if something is really worth the money then i consider a bit more. PC 360 is above my budget realy.

I think you'll find that a lot of people on this site urge you to get a headphone + standalone microphone as opposed to a headset. So, that being said with your stated budget and intent I might recommend:

 

1. http://www.amazon.com/Technica-ATH-AD700-Open-air-Audiophile-Headphones/dp/B000CMS0XU

2. http://www.amazon.com/Zalman-Zm-Mic1-Sensitivity-Headphone-Microphone/dp/B00029MTMQ/ref=pd_bxgy_e_img_y

 

It is slightly out of your price range but well worth it! Don't take my word for it though, let all these other audio people give you suggestions too! 

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I think you'll find that a lot of people on this site urge you to get a headphone + standalone microphone as opposed to a headset. So, that being said with your stated budget and intent I might recommend:

 

1. http://www.amazon.com/Technica-ATH-AD700-Open-air-Audiophile-Headphones/dp/B000CMS0XU

2. http://www.amazon.com/Zalman-Zm-Mic1-Sensitivity-Headphone-Microphone/dp/B00029MTMQ/ref=pd_bxgy_e_img_y

 

It is slightly out of your price range but well worth it! Don't take my word for it though, let all these other audio people give you suggestions too! 

hi, yea, i read some good things about the AD700 here, but after a quick google they only seem to be avialable true ebay and amazon and i don't like that, it means a lot of tax and customs cost if they intercept it at the border.

 

Maybe it's just me but i've had it with seperate Mic's. It's not realy convenient. Now, i have to replace my mic everytime i use it and place it right in front of my keyboard, where it pretty muts is always in the way.

 

Maybe i'll get an audio grade headphone lateron, but for now i'd rather have an al in one solution.


Edited by jbkappirossi - 6/24/13 at 9:32am
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That stand alone microphone clips to your headphone line. It won't be placed on your desk at all. There are a lot of options that don't need to be placed on your desk. I think a thread you should look into for more insight on a TON of headphones/headsets is this thread: http://www.head-fi.org/t/534479/mad-lust-envys-headphone-gaming-guide-updated-5-23-2013-mrspeakers-mad-dog-v-3-2-reviewed

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Originally Posted by chili dude96 View Post

Hey nameless. I have a few questions. I am planning on buying an A900X for gaming and I'm wondering how much benefit I would get from putting in a soundcard. I currently have an old creative audigy 2 sound blaster zs lying around and my motherboard has the Realteck ALC892 audio codec. I'm wondering if a cheap card, say in the Asus Xonar series, would be any better than one of these options.

 

My motherboard's onboard audio seems to have the same specs as the Xonar series - see manufacturer description below.

 

"Only MSI offers the Loss-less 24-bit/192KHz HD Audio function with an incredible 109 SNR dB value to provide the most clear & vivid HD audio quality and support 7.1 channels surround sound playback with a 2-channel independent stereo output (multiple streaming) through the front panel 3.5 inch phone jack.

It will only cost you $20 to buy a used Xonar DG from Amazon, to find out.

I really like my ATH-A900Xs, my A900X took a month of break in to sound their best.

post #1598 of 3156
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Originally Posted by SDub View Post

That stand alone microphone clips to your headphone line. It won't be placed on your desk at all. There are a lot of options that don't need to be placed on your desk. I think a thread you should look into for more insight on a TON of headphones/headsets is this thread: http://www.head-fi.org/t/534479/mad-lust-envys-headphone-gaming-guide-updated-5-23-2013-mrspeakers-mad-dog-v-3-2-reviewed

thx, but i found that thread some days ago already, but haven't found anything about the PC320 or SS V2.

One in that thread that would be an option is the skullcandy slyr, but then again no comparison btween the 2 above.

 

edit; anyone know what diameter speakers are in the PC320. the SS V2 has 50mm ones. Should give you a little dieper base then 40mm wich i think are in the PC320's?


Edited by jbkappirossi - 6/24/13 at 11:04am
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Big drivers =/= quality. The Turtle beach Z2 has 50mm drivers, and they are among the worst full-size headphones I've ever heard. the bass wasn't even strong for a cheap headset.

If you need a cheap headset, I'd honestly go for the Skullcandy Slyr. Very good sound for $80. Great sound signature, good bass and energy. Throw away the Skullcandy bias (if you have it) and you'll see... they are really good cans.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 6/24/13 at 11:38am
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Big drivers =/= quality. The Turtle beach Z2 has 50mm drivers, and they are among the worst full-size headphones I've ever heard. the bass wasn't even strong for a cheap headset.

If you need a cheap headset, I'd honestly go for the Skullcandy Slyr. Very good sound for $80. Great sound signature, good bass and energy. Throw away the Skullcandy bias (if you have it) and you'll see... they are really good cans.

thx man.

 

Have you tested al of them? I know you have tested the skullcandy slyr, but that's also the most expansive one at 80,- euros. the SSv2 costs 74,- and the PC-320 = 60,- here in holland.

Your not making it any easier tho. First on gut feelings alone i would have gone with the SS V2, but after i found this PC320 for a nice price i lean towards that, but now i don't know anymore.

 

I use it with onboard sound. On a Gigabyte G1 killer Sniper 3 wich has a Recon3D chip and Nichicon capaciters and a dedicated Headphone amp al slaped on the motherboard. I was actually pretty surpriced. It blew away my technics stereo amp wich i used before to power my headphones.

 

I was also looking to buy a secondhand Asus Essence ST, but still waiting for an agreement with the seller.


Edited by jbkappirossi - 6/24/13 at 12:52pm
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The V2 was a pretty popular headset back in the day, so it's a safe choice, though I haven't heard it. It may be better than the Slyr as it's open, and the Slyr is closed. Not sure on the PC320.
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

The V2 was a pretty popular headset back in the day, so it's a safe choice, though I haven't heard it. It may be better than the Slyr as it's open, and the Slyr is closed. Not sure on the PC320.

I read somewhere the PC320 is also open design.

 

edit;

 It sais here the SS V2 is a closed design. http://steelseries.com/products/audio/steelseries-siberia-v2


Edited by jbkappirossi - 6/24/13 at 12:57pm
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Oh... odd. I owned the V1, and it looks identical to the V2, just in a smaller form with velour pads. Those were very, very open. My mistake.
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Oh... odd. I owned the V1, and it looks identical to the V2, just in a smaller form with velour pads. Those were very, very open. My mistake.

NP. I might just aswell go with the cheapest one, the PC320 G4me for only 60. This guy is pretty optimistic about it. He sais; little les detailed, but better base then PC360. http://youtu.be/jrqWnWPn3Ak

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Originally Posted by PurpleAngel View Post

The T-HD (Titanium HD) audio processor seems to have lots of hardware features and the T-HD comes with a nice DAC (PCM1794) chip.

It's headphone output seems to be fairly decent, for something that does not come with a "true" headphone amplifier.

As the T-HD can send processed headphone surround sound out it's RCA jacks, you can hook just about any external headphone amplifier you like to the T-HD's RCA outputs.

Also when output analog audio thru the RCA jacks, all three op-amps are being used, where only two op-amps are used for the headphone output.

The "third" op-amp (used for RCA output) is slightly better then the two other op-amps.

The T-HD's RCA outputs should provide a cleaner analog audio signal, compared to the T-HD's headphone output.


Thanks for the thorough explanation!

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